For Americans who have offshore accounts / business - Check this shit out!!!

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  • DWB
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 31779

    #1

    For Americans who have offshore accounts / business - Check this shit out!!!

    Summary of Levin-Coleman-Obama Stop Tax Haven Abuse Act

    You gotta read this shit...

    CLICK HERE
  • Why
    MFBA
    • Mar 2003
    • 7230

    #2
    well good, people ought to pay fucking taxs!

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    • Why
      MFBA
      • Mar 2003
      • 7230

      #3
      if your not hiding anything, why does it matter? i mean really.

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      • tony299
        lurker
        • Aug 2002
        • 57021

        #4
        Originally posted by Why
        well good, people ought to pay fucking taxs!
        Thank you

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        • DaddyHalbucks
          A freakin' legend!
          • Feb 2004
          • 18975

          #5
          I saw that coming years ago.
          Boner Money

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          • L-Pink
            working on my tan
            • Mar 2005
            • 39151

            #6
            That's great news.

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            • DWB
              Registered User
              • Jul 2003
              • 31779

              #7
              Originally posted by Why
              if your not hiding anything, why does it matter? i mean really.
              You obviously don't know how it all works. It has nothing to do with "hiding" anything, and everything to do with working within the law (if don't correctly) the same as you run a corporation in the USA. The only difference is you pay LESS taxes legally. There are some people that use it for totally illegal purposes, but for those of us who don't, this could be a real pain in the ass if passed.

              I've said it before and I will say it again... only the poor and the stupid pay a lot of taxes. There are plenty of legal ways to DRASTICALLY lower your tax burden or pay virtually NO taxes at all.

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              • DWB
                Registered User
                • Jul 2003
                • 31779

                #8
                Originally posted by L-Pink
                That's great news.
                Don't worry. It will be a pain in the ass but you can bet your sweet ass the wealthy people will find a legal work around. That's what they do.

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                • JFK
                  FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 67369

                  #9
                  nice shopping list of jurisdictions
                  Anguilla
                  Antigua and Barbuda
                  Aruba
                  Bahamas
                  Barbados
                  Belize
                  Bermuda
                  British Virgin
                  Islands
                  Cayman Islands
                  Cook Islands
                  Costa Rica
                  Cyprus
                  Dominica
                  Gibraltar
                  Grenada
                  Guernsey/Sark/
                  Alderney
                  Hong Kong
                  Isle of Man
                  Jersey
                  Latvia Lichtenstein
                  Luxembourg
                  Malta
                  Nauru
                  Netherlands
                  Antilles
                  Panama
                  Samoa
                  St. Kitts and
                  Nevis
                  St. Lucia
                  St. Vincent and
                  the Grenadines
                  Singapore
                  Switzerland
                  Turks and Caicos
                  Vanuatu

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                  • DWB
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 31779

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                    Good read. I can say I would love to watch the IRS "try" to throw their weight around a Cyprus court, bank, or ANY official Corp office. Matter of fact, I would pay to watch.
                    Unless it had to do with funding terrorism or money laundering, I'd like to see it too. Some countries would buckle, some won't.

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                    • DWB
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 31779

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JFK
                      nice shopping list of jurisdictions
                      Anguilla
                      Antigua and Barbuda
                      Aruba
                      Bahamas
                      Barbados
                      Belize
                      Bermuda
                      British Virgin
                      Islands
                      Cayman Islands
                      Cook Islands
                      Costa Rica
                      Cyprus
                      Dominica
                      Gibraltar
                      Grenada
                      Guernsey/Sark/
                      Alderney
                      Hong Kong
                      Isle of Man
                      Jersey
                      Latvia Lichtenstein
                      Luxembourg
                      Malta
                      Nauru
                      Netherlands
                      Antilles
                      Panama
                      Samoa
                      St. Kitts and
                      Nevis
                      St. Lucia
                      St. Vincent and
                      the Grenadines
                      Singapore
                      Switzerland
                      Turks and Caicos
                      Vanuatu
                      Heh. Yea, take your pic.

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                      • Shagbunny
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3028

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JFK
                        nice shopping list of jurisdictions
                        Anguilla
                        Antigua and Barbuda
                        Aruba
                        Bahamas
                        Barbados
                        Belize
                        Bermuda
                        British Virgin
                        Islands
                        Cayman Islands
                        Cook Islands
                        Costa Rica
                        Cyprus
                        Dominica
                        Gibraltar
                        Grenada
                        Guernsey/Sark/
                        Alderney
                        Hong Kong
                        Isle of Man
                        Jersey
                        Latvia Lichtenstein
                        Luxembourg
                        Malta
                        Nauru
                        Netherlands
                        Antilles
                        Panama
                        Samoa
                        St. Kitts and
                        Nevis
                        St. Lucia
                        St. Vincent and
                        the Grenadines
                        Singapore
                        Switzerland
                        Turks and Caicos
                        Vanuatu
                        wouldn't mind moving to bermuda but pricy as hell

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                        • stev0
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 6801

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                          There are plenty of legal ways to DRASTICALLY lower your tax burden or pay virtually NO taxes at all.
                          And that's exactly what needs to change... if you live in the US you should be paying your fair share of taxes to the US gov't so they can upkeep the services and agencies that benefit you. If you're not, then you're just being a leech on society.
                          Last edited by stev0; 11-25-2007, 11:37 AM.

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                          • Lykos
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 31027

                            #14
                            Offshore rulez

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                            • s9ann0
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 4873

                              #15
                              you should check this out these guys know how to minimise their tax bills:

                              http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tax/view/

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                              • darkmediak07
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 36

                                #16
                                This is just another example of the ever tightening grip of Big Brother, especially Big Brother post 9/11. Seriously, those of you who have been in the biz since Clinton - haven't you noticed a big change?

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                                • xmas13
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 5176

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                  I've said it before and I will say it again... only the poor and the stupid pay a lot of taxes.
                                  "We Don't Pay Taxes. Only The Little People Pay Taxes." Leona Helmsley, 1989

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                                  • GreyWolf
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Jun 2007
                                    • 2036

                                    #18
                                    Typical bs based on assumption DirtyWhiteBoy

                                    Assumptions being:

                                    (a) Control
                                    (b) Transfers of Income
                                    (c) Beneficial ownership
                                    (d) Foreign financial accounts

                                    That is one hell of a lot of assumptions because "These presumptions are needed in civil judicial and administrative proceedings because the tax, corporate, or bank secrecy laws and practices of these jurisdictions make it nearly impossible for U.S. authorities to gain access to needed information."

                                    Wot a pity the laws of other countries "make it nearly impossible for U.S. authorities to gain access to needed information" Some countries have privacy laws and believe in freedom in a practical sense - not just talk about it.

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                                    • dissipate
                                      The Dirty Frenchman
                                      • Nov 2005
                                      • 8904

                                      #19
                                      Another piece of garbage written by politicians trying to exploit every bit of the patriot act that they can.

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                                      • crockett
                                        in a van by the river
                                        • May 2003
                                        • 76818

                                        #20
                                        It is pretty fucked up that this is one of the only countries that still requires you to files taxes even if you don't live within the boarders.
                                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                        • DaddyHalbucks
                                          A freakin' legend!
                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 18975

                                          #21
                                          If it helps the US Treasury prevent cheating, I can't see how it is a bad thing.
                                          Boner Money

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                                          • Pornwolf
                                            Drunk and Unruly
                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 22712

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Why
                                            if your not hiding anything, why does it matter? i mean really.

                                            The American Government has been spending taxpayer money in ways we never intended for too long now. The amount we have spent on the war is just one example. There's thousands of other instances where our money has been misspent.

                                            Lots of people have gotten tired of paying more than a third of their earnings to allow these people to do things that aren't beneficial to us.

                                            Sure, I bet some smart ass will come into this thread and say that we can control that by voting for different people and writing our representatives. To them I will say grow the fuck up.
                                            I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                            Webair, bitches.

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                                            • GreyWolf
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Jun 2007
                                              • 2036

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                              If it helps the US Treasury prevent cheating, I can't see how it is a bad thing.
                                              Tell ya DH - I would almost agree with that straightforward reason

                                              It is correct that any person should pay whatever taxation is due wherever they elect to live and not try to scam revenue agencies.

                                              But... the "almost agree" goes so far in that any US citizen who is not even resident in the US has the burden and dubious "privilege" of being chased worldwide for any dime they earn and being burdened by silly annual filings to the IRS - even tho they may never have lived, travelled to, or have any connections with the US for 25 years. That is sure not within the spirit of any "freedoms" or "values" - it's simply boring control, distasteful and greedy.

                                              There are even instances of... eg... citizens of other countries who happen to marry a US citizen and where the IRS actually have the gall to seek taxation from a foreign individual in respect of possible benefits/earnings re their spouse A fair number, least of the people I know, just tell the IRS to get stuffed - they have no "obligation" to pay anything to the IRS and never will have if they don't live or earn within the US.

                                              Only controlled and usually oppressive regimes treat their citizens like that and sadly the US is in the company of places like Lybia and Saudi in this respect. No other countries chase their citizens while they are not even resident in their "home country" for taxation.

                                              People only have one life - they are entitled to live that life wherever they want and in whatever manner suits them. They did not choose a country to be born in or be burdened by taxation for the rest of their lives from the "priviledge" of being born in the wrong area. Anyone is obliged to pay taxation in the country they reside - not continue to pay taxation if they don't even live there.

                                              Obviously for legal reasons it is unwise to even remain a US citizen re the above, but hell, the law is an ass and can sympathise with US folks who live elsewhere and still "controlled" by an unfortunate/non-free jurisdiction at birth.

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                                              • Thurbs
                                                The Thrilla in Manila
                                                • Sep 2004
                                                • 4785

                                                #24
                                                bah - there goes St. Kitts -- oh well

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                                                • Wiggles
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • May 2004
                                                  • 14423

                                                  #25
                                                  now they govt can leach more money to shovel into the war
                                                  no sig

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