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    • Nov 2003
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    20 WORST investments

    20 worst investments by venture capital funds. I used to work for a VC firm in the late 90s and boy, did we invest in some doozies. How many can you spot/recognize from this list? http://www.insidecrm.com/features/20...tments-111907/
    Kozmo.com: Kozmo.com's small-goods delivery service, while a recipient of around $250 million in investment, and popular with students and young professionals, ultimately met its end and liquidated in 2001. Its business model was criticized as unprofitable because it didn't charge for deliveries. Kozmo.com's demise is profiled in the documentary film e-Dreams.

    I remember Kozmo.com, a friend of mine was the roommate of the guy who founded the company. My buddy kept insisting that it was HIS idea. Sure enough, when Kozmo went on life support, my friend began to insist that he just HELPED and it wasn't his idea. Just proves the old saying once again:

    "Success has many fathers. Failure is an orphan."

    Anyway, enjoy the trip back to the late 90's early 2000s.
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        • eroswebmaster
          March 1st, 2003
          • Jul 2001
          • 20295
          #3
          I made money off of the pets.com blow up. I ended up clearing out some stores who had the pets.com puppet for like pennies...turned around and sold them on eBay for like $15 a pop...LOL
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            • Snake Doctor
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              • Mar 2001
              • 13449
              #4
              Just goes to show that fundamentals always win in the end.
              sig too big

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                  #5
                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                  I made money off of the pets.com blow up. I ended up clearing out some stores who had the pets.com puppet for like pennies...turned around and sold them on eBay for like $15 a pop...LOL
                  Hehehehe sweet!

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                      #6
                      Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                      Just goes to show that fundamentals always win in the end.
                      Dude, you're so right on the money. I remember reading Business2.0, forbes, and other articles re "HOW TO VALUATE THE NEW ECONOMY". What bullshit. Either a company makes money or it doesn't. Those articles were writing shit like "New age ways to redefine and revalue the concept of profit." Yeah.... evalue doesn't pay the rent.

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                        • DaddyHalbucks
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                          • Feb 2004
                          • 18975
                          #7
                          S E X Y L A D I E S .com?
                          Boner Money

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                            • DamageX
                              Marketing & Strategy
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 14293
                              #8
                              No such thing as a bad investment. Only varying degrees of expensive lessons.
                              Whitehat is for chumps

                              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                • DamageX
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                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 14293
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                  Dude, you're so right on the money. I remember reading Business2.0, forbes, and other articles re "HOW TO VALUATE THE NEW ECONOMY". What bullshit. Either a company makes money or it doesn't. Those articles were writing shit like "New age ways to redefine and revalue the concept of profit." Yeah.... evalue doesn't pay the rent.
                                  It pays the erent.
                                  Whitehat is for chumps

                                  If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by DamageX
                                      No such thing as a bad investment. Only varying degrees of expensive lessons.
                                      Good attitude. I like that! It's not whether you win or lose, it's whether you learn or not. I'm with ya 100% on that.

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                                        • Violetta
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                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 28735
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by DamageX
                                          No such thing as a bad investment. Only varying degrees of expensive lessons.
                                          M&A Queen

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                                            • Doctor Dre
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 51692
                                              #12
                                              Enron should definitly be #1 thought...
                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                • Shagbunny
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                                                  #13
                                                  or in Canada, opening up any donut shop other than Tim Hortons

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                                                    • DamageX
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                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 14293
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                      Enron should definitly be #1 thought...
                                                      You need to learn the difference between bad INVESTMENT and bad MANAGEMENT.
                                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                        • Doctor Dre
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 51692
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by DamageX
                                                          You need to learn the difference between bad INVESTMENT and bad MANAGEMENT.
                                                          Lots of people invested in the way the accounting was done as far as energy investements were going. It was supposed to change the way business was done.

                                                          The ideas behind Enron was probably as bad as the management. Hot hair.
                                                          Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                          I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                            • Doctor Dre
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 51692
                                                              #16
                                                              They are including management problems too... How a business is managed is as good as the business plan behind the business.

                                                              Pixelon.com: Although Pixelon's money-burn of $16 million isn't remarkable in comparison to the other all-stars on this list, the way it was burnt certainly is. Pixelon's founder, "Michael Fenne" was more con man than entrepreneur, spending most of the company's investment on a Las Vegas launch party peppered with stars like Tony Bennett, Kiss and The Who. Eventually, it came out that Mr. Fenne was actually David Kim Stanley, a man on the run from the law and living in his car, who previously pleaded guilty to swindling $1.5 million from friends and neighbors.
                                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                  • 13449
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                  Dude, you're so right on the money. I remember reading Business2.0, forbes, and other articles re "HOW TO VALUATE THE NEW ECONOMY". What bullshit. Either a company makes money or it doesn't. Those articles were writing shit like "New age ways to redefine and revalue the concept of profit." Yeah.... evalue doesn't pay the rent.
                                                                  Yeah that whole "new economy" thing was ridiculous. All of a sudden profits don't matter because the company is internet based....or people just assumed that eventually our economy would be dominated by internet companies so they better get in now before it got too expensive.

                                                                  These are the same people that two years ago thought housing prices would rise 25% a year forever so they better buy them up now or else they'd never be able to afford one.

                                                                  Fundamentals always win in the end.
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                                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                      • 13449
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                      Enron should definitly be #1 thought...
                                                                      Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                      You need to learn the difference between bad INVESTMENT and bad MANAGEMENT.
                                                                      There's also a difference between bad management and crooked management. But that's another discussion altogether.

                                                                      If Enron was trading at a multiple anywhere near where the rest of the S&P was trading (I think it was around 30 times earnings) then any sane investor should have gotten out.
                                                                      sig too big

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                                                                        • Snake Doctor
                                                                          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                          • 13449
                                                                          #19
                                                                          speaking of fundamentals....S&P 500 closed at 1439 today, this would be a great buying opportunity for anyone who has money in a cash position.

                                                                          This is definitely a good time to jump into the market.
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                                                                            • DamageX
                                                                              Marketing & Strategy
                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 14293
                                                                              #20
                                                                              This one's priceless:

                                                                              Xoma: While many pharmaceutical companies enjoy soaring profits, Xoma isn't one of them. This 26-year old company has not earned a profit since its inception in 1981. In fact, it has run through more than $700 million. Its stock has gone from highs of $32 per share to $3.04. Of course, this company's future is much more promising than many of the other companies profiled in this article. There's still a chance that Xoma will see success, even this far down the road. Perhaps you'll see Xoma on a future list of VC turnaround stories.
                                                                              Man, you'd think that after 25 years of being a failure someone would learn a lesson and give the fuck up already...
                                                                              Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                • L-Pink
                                                                                  working on my tan
                                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                                  • 39151
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                  This one's priceless:



                                                                                  Man, you'd think that after 25 years of being a failure someone would learn a lesson and give the fuck up already...
                                                                                  Tomorrow GFY will have nine posters if this advise is followed.

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                                                                                    • teg0
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                                                                                      • Jan 2006
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                      You need to learn the difference between bad INVESTMENT and bad MANAGEMENT.

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                                                                                        • the Shemp
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                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                          • 10891
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          that tanning salon in Iran didnt go over too well either...
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                                                              speaking of fundamentals....S&P 500 closed at 1439 today, this would be a great buying opportunity for anyone who has money in a cash position.

                                                                                              This is definitely a good time to jump into the market.
                                                                                              Thanks, bro

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                                                                                                • minusonebit
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                                  • 7391
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  The US Dollar is the worst investment going right now.

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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by minusonebit
                                                                                                      The US Dollar is the worst investment going right now.
                                                                                                      I run an outsourcing/offshoring company. Boy, do I know

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                                                                                                        • clickclickclick
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                                          • 1227
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          best investment is self knowledge
                                                                                                          if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

                                                                                                          p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                                                                                                            • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                                                              • 13449
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by minusonebit
                                                                                                              The US Dollar is the worst investment going right now.
                                                                                                              A currency isn't really an investment though.

                                                                                                              I'm not saying the dollar is doing well or anything like that....but currency is another subject altogether.
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                                                                                                                • GrouchyAdmin
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                                                                                                                  • Apr 2006
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  21: EpicCash

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                                                                                                                    • Basic_man
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                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I did receive checks from AllAdvantage back in the time!! Some good old memories!
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                                                                                                                        • lazycash
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                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                          • 15214
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Basic_man
                                                                                                                          I did receive checks from AllAdvantage back in the time!! Some good old memories!
                                                                                                                          Ah the memories, I had over 80k paid to surf referrals and over 45k referrals with All Advantage, I still have my AA debit card. I remember thinking I was the shit when I could sit and down and surf the web and make $75/hr because of all my referrals. When the stock market crashed in March 2000 it marked the end of most of the paid to surf companies as the IPO was no longer a viable option and all the venture capital funding was yanked. I remember talking with so many execs and it was obvious they were burning through funding and losing a ton, just trying to gain enough signups and exposure to get an IPO and strike it rich.

                                                                                                                          Even though it was a bummer when they all died along with my earnings, I credit much of how I learned to market online with my experience with those companies, its where my nick lazycash came from.
                                                                                                                          "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

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                                                                                                                            • pornask
                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                              • 6518
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              it's sad bolt.com had to go out of business. It was a great website I used to frequent a lot.

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                                                                                                                                • $5 submissions
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                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                                                                  Ah the memories, I had over 80k paid to surf referrals and over 45k referrals with All Advantage, I still have my AA debit card. I remember thinking I was the shit when I could sit and down and surf the web and make $75/hr because of all my referrals. When the stock market crashed in March 2000 it marked the end of most of the paid to surf companies as the IPO was no longer a viable option and all the venture capital funding was yanked. I remember talking with so many execs and it was obvious they were burning through funding and losing a ton, just trying to gain enough signups and exposure to get an IPO and strike it rich.

                                                                                                                                  Even though it was a bummer when they all died along with my earnings, I credit much of how I learned to market online with my experience with those companies, its where my nick lazycash came from.
                                                                                                                                  The guys behind it came back....... look up AGLOCO. Not as fat as Alladvantage though.

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                                                                                                                                    • xxxjay
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I love your posts man. You actually learn something. They are great.
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                                                                                                                                        • sandman!
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                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2001
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          i remember when amped mobile was all over the tv with ads selling phones to getto people with no credit

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                                                                                                                                            • Drake
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                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              $5 submissions, please never leave GFY. You post some of the coolest articles and share some of the most amazing ideas on here. Keep it up, because "we" do read your threads.

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                                                                                                                                                • teomaxxx
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                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                                                  speaking of fundamentals....S&P 500 closed at 1439 today, this would be a great buying opportunity for anyone who has money in a cash position.

                                                                                                                                                  This is definitely a good time to jump into the market.
                                                                                                                                                  Maybe there could be short term bounce (or christmas rally), but in the long term this is not definately good time to jump into the market, except companies, who do well in recession times too.

                                                                                                                                                  "The only two exceptions of a housing recession not leading to economy-wide ones were those during the Korean War and the Vietnam war when a massive fiscal stimulus rescued the economy. What we spent ? or waste ? on Iraq is not sufficient to get that fiscal stimulus; we would need another equivalent of $200 billion fiscal stimulus to do the job."
                                                                                                                                                  From:
                                                                                                                                                  http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/223214/

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                                                                                                                                                    • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                                                                                                      Kozmo was actually a fucking awesome service. You could order a latte and some gum and they'd deliver it for you for free. I didn't live in Chicago at that time, but had friends who did. They whored out that service so much that the delivery guys knew their names.

                                                                                                                                                      Speaking of dot com busts, does anyone remember Flooz? It was supposed to be "internet money". Dumbest fucking idea I've ever heard of.

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                                                                                                                                                        • minusonebit
                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                          • 7391
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Basic_man
                                                                                                                                                          I did receive checks from AllAdvantage back in the time!! Some good old memories!
                                                                                                                                                          AA was the shit.

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                                                                                                                                                            • minusonebit
                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2006
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by teomaxxx
                                                                                                                                                              Maybe there could be short term bounce (or christmas rally), but in the long term this is not definately good time to jump into the market, except companies, who do well in recession times too.

                                                                                                                                                              "The only two exceptions of a housing recession not leading to economy-wide ones were those during the Korean War and the Vietnam war when a massive fiscal stimulus rescued the economy. What we spent ? or waste ? on Iraq is not sufficient to get that fiscal stimulus; we would need another equivalent of $200 billion fiscal stimulus to do the job."
                                                                                                                                                              From:
                                                                                                                                                              http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/223214/
                                                                                                                                                              We can always bomb Iran and make up for it.

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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                                                                                  Speaking of dot com busts, does anyone remember Flooz? It was supposed to be "internet money". Dumbest fucking idea I've ever heard of.
                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah, I've heard of them. Read an article about them at Redherring. There were tons of Web 1.0 companies, most died. The same will probably happen with Web 2.0 companies.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Matt_WildCash
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      AllAdvantage: AllAdvantage offered Internet users 50 cents per hour to watch banner ads on a "Viewbar." Of course, the problem with their business model was that advertisers didn't see the appeal of the low-pay demographic AllAdvantage offered. This company represents $135 million in venture capital down the drain.

                                                                                                                                                                      Oh boy I remember this one, thinking WTF are they thinking. Sure enough it went out of business big surprise.

                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks for the post, a cool read.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Retributi0n
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          buying a car is the worste investment you can make

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                                                                                                                                                                            • DamageX
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Retributi0n
                                                                                                                                                                              buying a car is the worste investment you can make
                                                                                                                                                                              That depends on the car and the price tag, really.
                                                                                                                                                                              Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                                                                                              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Jayvis
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                                                                                                                                                                                  ah, kozmo... i bought startup.com at a local dollar store... what a good investment.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • thonglife
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      The Verichip!

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          epiccash + therealme ...horrible investments !

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • fuhkinglou
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                                                                                                                                                                                              I loved kozmo.com and urbanfetch.com They both went out of business in the same week I think. It was a real downer. I remember a friend telling me about the kozmo beta. All you had to do was log in and they would deliver free ice cream. For like 2 weeks I ate ice cream every other night. And Urban Fetch used to bring fresh baked cookies. AND they didn't accept tips for the delivery. It was awesome. I didn't know her at the time but a friend of mine used to scan in porn movie covers for the kozmo adult rental business.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • fuhkinglou
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Wow. I remember WebVan, too. Talk about a total bust. FreshDirect seems to have figured that market out but I remember reading that most people think it's not a sustainable model.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I also used to work in the same building as Bolt. We got a lot of their video tape stock in exchange for the debt they owed the place I worked. Everyone who was still working at Bolt was looking at us like we were vultures.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh baby, the Cue Cat!



                                                                                                                                                                                                      They did a whole TV campaign and were giving these things out for free.. man- I saw failure written all over that thing a mile away. It did remind me of a picture pages type book I had when I was younger that seemed to use similar technology

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