My cam sales today... Aug 1, 2012
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someone had buyer's remorse......
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85% SE'sComment
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ouch, that sucksComment
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VenusBlogger will tell you its impossible to make that many sales in the first place.
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sucks for you i'm on the +5Comment
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shit that sucks what program is itComment
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Shit who's cheerios did you shit in this morning?
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Doesn't matter what program. It happens to everyone. People have 6+ months to charge back and sometimes they do it all at once, particularly when they've spent 1000's of dollars they realized they can reclaim with a simple phone call to the bank..
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It sucks...Comment
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refunds balling hard.Compound interest.Comment
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Ouch.
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You are missing alot of important data from this report but if that is all there is, the problem is very clear. You don't have enough data on your customers. If you knew more about the 3rd purchase for example you would have been able to prevent that chargeback and the rest from occurring.Comment
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The chargeback laws suck but with all the shit xsales and card banging by some of the whores in this zoo maybe it is customer revenge
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Looks like someone is using stolen credit cards and signed up to your site. Just my guess.Comment
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Ouch, that sucks, might have you beat tho, I received a 208.00 chargeback today on a program that according to their stats, I have only had a single 14.00 sale. So apparently I need to send them a check?
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I notice all refunds are done at the same time, thus i presume these are done manually.
i am guessing that they are done every few days, mabe once a week or even a month rather than each day, so your just seeing the results from the day the refunds are done.Comment
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What do they do for the web cam girls?
I presume they take back there pay, by presumably taking the money off the next payment.
While this may be anoying for affiliates i would think it far worse for the webcam girls who maqy have spent hours working for this cash. if this is the case i could see many just packing it in.Comment
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I only deal with program that don't take money back from cam girls otherwise it's pain in the ass to announce such things to the girls lol: 'Ok last week you made 1.2K but this week you start at -0.2k because jimmy349329 charged back'. My studio delivered the product (the show) the client is the website client not our so we are a 3rd party supplier it's not our problem.
Let say you are a home contractor you wont pay your sub-contractors because your client is not paying???? 'Sorry I can't pay you for plumbing job you did at 12 principal street the client didn't pay so I think you should also deduct hours to your employee!'
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our chargebacks with streamate never went above 2-3% in a given month, while with other programs it sometimes reached 20%!!!
i dont believe that other big players have such a shitty fraud prevention that they would allow this. they would lose their processing. i think this is the new type of shavingComment
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Streamate gets the same chargebacks ratio of the others but probably does not show and pass all them on models and affiliates. A cam program can decide to account some loss to keep happy best models and affiliates. About fake chargebacks from some programs this can not be verified.. well some cam girls told me they was in touch with some their customers who said they not made chargeback while the model got chargeback from a site, I will not tell what a site as this is not nice. Also the customer may be a liar too.
Yes most girls and studios definitely stop to work on a cam site at the first big chargeback they get. Some cam sites are known for many chargebacks got and others for fewer chargebacks, and others even warranty no chargebacks at all (there are some myths about this). I heard from a model that livejasmin recently got the policy that no chargebacks to girls who "breach no rules", so if she is good they cover her, if she got fines she is not protected from chargebacks.
The policy for our cam site, for models, it is an insurance like this: we cover chargeback up to $250 per model per pay period (15 days), whatever exceeds 250 we take from the model. We get some chargebacks quite bigger but they spend on multiple girls, so basically we never pass chargebacks on models as the $250 is not exceeded.
About the affiliates... honestly we are not as nice as with the models, we delete the chargebacked revenues, but we are not revshare, is a pps, so never a chargeback can exceed the pps amount, it is not that bad. Also most of chargebacks from affiliate account it is rogue affiliates submitting stolen cards themselves, really
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I was a Licensed Residential Builder for 13 years, it don't work that way at all ; If the customer doesn't pay or their funds are bad -- we all (the contractors and subs) go to the courthouse together and place our mechanics liens against the title to the property. Then we have a year to file a suit in the Circuit Court for a foreclosure to satisfy all construction liens (the money owed for the work). Usually they pay off under threat of foreclosure.
I was once owed for a completed stone entryway for a new subdivision. Since the improvement was to the subdivision in common I liened $3.5 million of the unsold lots -- the developer could not sell any of his lots as the bank would not release his 'take-outs' of the blanket mortgages of $millions until I was paid and discharged my lein -- they paid me off in a week 'the shit hit the fans
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The construction business is unique as the improvements are 'fixed and a part of real property'. Commercial payments such as on affiliate contracts are 'personal property assets' usually without any collateral security.Last edited by Barry-xlovecam; 08-02-2012, 08:28 AM.Comment
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I paid all my hourly employees even when I was not paid but some subcontractors had to sweat it out with me -- that is the risk of doing business.
More specifically with regard to chargebacks in our current endeavours ( webcam broadcasts); When there is a chargeback everyone eats their share -- we all lost money together. Chargebacks are a part of contracting. Independent Contractors are what Affiliates, Models and Studios are. None are paid hourly as an employee and all assume business risk. Rev share means revenue sharing -- losses should be shared when they are a direct result to ones revenue. No one likes losing money that is understandable.
A subcontracted truck is subject to different rules; it is paid by the tariff rate, agreed price per mile, or haul -- completion of delivery is the only prerequisite to payment. The truck owner operator does not agree to a certain portion of the revenue.
Bottom line; When a customer refuses to pay for services rendered -- you're fucked -- you cannot repossess the services. A sale is not complete until it is paid for -- always. Sometimes, you can sue to recover the loss but most of the time it is a write off and you just move on and learn from it.
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