Good for him! The thief's had enough time to consider what they were doing. There is no such thing as to much force when confronting a burglar. To use less than maximum force puts yourself in danger. Anyone with a different opinion has never confronted crime, face to face.
As far as the dead guys family, sorry but he was a low life making bad decisions, putting others minding their own business at risk.
What? he was defending his neighbors property. His life was in danger.
His life was not in danger, he was in his own house when this all happened, and the dispatcher told him not to leave. He then starts acting like a Texas Big Dick with "I'll be honest with you I'm tell you right now I'm not going to let them get away". The dispatcher repeats "stay inside".
He left the safety of his own house to go out and murder 2 people.
Any shitty athlete can run a six second 40 yard sprint. That breaks down to 10 yards in just a second and a half. Most people have NO idea how quick someone can cover ground. That puts someone in your face instantly. The minute someone make a move toward you, shoot. That is what this guy did.
Gator, honestly, have you ever held a gun on someone that was committing a crime?
No. I've never owned a gun and very rarely have fired one. Nothing a gun can do that a baseball bat upside the head won't do. I'm quite satisfied with the size of my penis.
If you cant do the time, dont do the crime... you dont want to get killed, then stay out of other peoples properties... a lot of people have guns these days...
if you break into my house and put my loved ones at risk, you are going to leave my property in an ambulance...
Good for him! The thief's had enough time to consider what they were doing. There is no such thing as to much force when confronting a burglar. To use less than maximum force puts yourself in danger. Anyone with a different opinion has never confronted crime, face to face.
As far as the dead guys family, sorry but he was a low life making bad decisions, putting others minding their own business at risk.
Ummmm the burgulars were next door and the cops had already been called.
If you cant do the time, dont do the crime... you dont want to get killed, then stay out of other peoples properties... a lot of people have guns these days...
if you break into my house and put my loved ones at risk, you are going to leave my property in an ambulance...
HUGE difference being INSIDE your huse. Show me where these guys were INSIDE the house when they were shot.
No. I've never owned a gun and very rarely have fired one. Nothing a gun can do that a baseball bat upside the head won't do. I'm quite satisfied with the size of my penis.
Get real, What does a penis have to do with protecting yourself? A baseball bat ...... really. Against more than one? Against a career criminal that might be facing his third strike and mandatory sentencing? Against someone with a gun?
You are speaking from no experience. If anyone has a penis complex it's someone defending themselves with a baseball bat.
Get real, What does a penis have to do with protecting yourself?
gun owner = small penis or stupid. Why stupid? Because if you live in a neighborhood so bad that you feel the need to own a gun and you don't move to a safer place you are stupid. FACT.
Answer this would you want to be near ME when I was drunk, pissed at you and carrying a gun?
although its hard to have sympathy for a couple of theives, they need to chare that guy with a crime. the reason that law is in place is because "we" have determined that property is not worth a life, all else equal.
due to whatever circumstances, they can give him a slap on the wrist, but imho they would send a bad message if they dont charge him with anything
gun owner = small penis or stupid. Why stupid? Because if you live in a neighborhood so bad that you feel the need to own a gun and you don't move to a safer place you are stupid. FACT.
Answer this would you want to be near ME when I was drunk, pissed at you and carrying a gun?
Gator, did you see the big buck neighborhood this took place in? That is the doumbest thing I ever heard. Where do you think serious criminals hunt, the getto? They go where the money is.
I have never handled a firearm while drunk or pissed. Nobody I know does.
although its hard to have sympathy for a couple of theives, they need to chare that guy with a crime. the reason that law is in place is because "we" have determined that property is not worth a life, all else equal.
due to whatever circumstances, they can give him a slap on the wrist, but imho they would send a bad message if they dont charge him with anything
Actually, I believe you're wrong.
In Texas, where this took place, you _ARE_ allowed to defend your property with lethal force.
As far as extending this fo defending your neighbors property with lethal force? Well I guess we'll see how that places out.
.... So I should shoot the teens who keep stealing my lawn mower gas?
.... Or the elderly lady acroos the street he comes on my property early in the AM and steals oranges off my tree?
.......... I am guessin that you also feel shoplifters should have their arms and finger cut off
.... what about those music downloaders... they are stealing ... kill them too?
Fact: Anybody who feels like this man was anything but a nut job and should be fried... is weak... scared of society and proably have some sort of disorder or another
normal people know.... you dont kill humans over property... if that were the case ken lay and all the other big CEO's who scam people out of their life savings ( a little bit more then the family TV I think)
... then they would be hanging from the gallows
are you realy that fuckin stupid???? I mean realy????
Kill a human .... .. do you realy find that to be that easy
Enter my house and try to take my property and watch how quickly I will leave what few brains you have sliding down my wall and the only regret will be that I have to re-paint.
Mike South
It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.
Enter my house and try to take my property and watch how quickly I will leave what few brains you have sliding down my wall and the only regret will be that I have to re-paint.
So if you were me you would kill the gas theives right?
I mean they have broke all the way into the house and taken a plunger and some batteries
Mike my question is had you seen them outside you home...
...after stealing your batteries and plunger
are you saying at that point it is ok to kill them?
my answer is simple Im going to put a gun on them and tell them to lay down on the ground and turn thier palms up
If they fail to comply or if they make any move other than what I told them to they are going to die...they are in my residence and stealing my property
the choice is thiers, choices have consequences and I bet you one thing those little cocksuckers wont ever steal another drop of gas...or anything else for that matter
Mike South
It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.
I agree 100%. He crossed the line BIG TIME and I hope the grand jury socks it to him.
That was, by definition, vigilante justice.
No one's life was in danger, and this isn't the wild west.
i dont think we can ascertain that from that short news clip.
it sounds like he could have avoided it by just staying inside the house., but hindsight is always 20/20 right. we could also just all lay down and let thieves and crackheads rob us blind.
I will never understand why people move when they are being held at gunpoint
my answer is simple Im going to put a gun on them and tell them to lay down on the ground and turn thier palms up
If they fail to comply or if they make any move other than what I told them to they are going to die...they are in my residence and stealing my property
the choice is thiers, choices have consequences and I bet you one thing those little cocksuckers wont ever steal another drop of gas...or anything else for that matter
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That guy didnt give them a chance to do shit and the police were seconds away... he went outside... bang your dead
he should be killed
this is not iraq... or iran or fuckin nazi gernmany...
most Americans are civilized human beings and I would never kill a human over property... especialy someone trying to get away
I think anyone who would has some serious serious issues
shit I wouldnt kill a dog for biting me if it was in retreat
killing an unarmed man in retreat is an act of cowardice ..... not even close to being a hero
I have firearms, I also would only use reasonable force to defend myself and my family. If I caught someone inside the house, yes very well they could end up dead or at least shot. However if they were trying to flee I would not engage or fire on them. In such an instance I am the one now in control and the level of personal danger has shrunk considerably.
I have no desire to kill another person. I will defend my family though with lethal force if required. I will not kill someone caught in the act and attempting to flee or whom is now on the defensive. Hell worst case is they do indeed get shot in the fucking knees.
Guess this is also why I have my shotgun loaded as follows. Salt, bird shot, buckshot, slugs. Ya that salt could be the life of me one day if someone else has a gun and fires back, however I figure that goes beyond the scope of rare and the extra safety is reassuring. Less chance of someone getting killed with the gun.
How do you know the criminals wern't running at the homeowner? If he was in the front yard and they were leaving the house they were coming right at him. He did say stop.
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