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  • DVTimes
    xxx
    • Jun 2003
    • 31658
    #1

    Can we ban DamianJ please

    Under every post I make he posts insults.

    He states I steal (if so please provide evidence) plus other things.

    I suspect if anyone else did what he did they would be baned.

    Thank you.
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    • LeRoy
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      • Jul 2007
      • 13364
      #2
      but you do steal and you've stolen my content too.

      You're the one that should be banned here. Just my .02
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          • Aug 2004
          • 4864
          #3
          Time Thief!

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            • L-Pink
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              • Mar 2005
              • 39151
              #4
              Link please

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                • DamianJ
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 15808
                  #5
                  DVTimes, everything I say is demonstrable.

                  You have stolen content from me and from Lady Sonia.

                  You scammed me out of money.

                  You post instructions on how to commit fraud and boast about how much you have made doing these scams.

                  You should have been banned a very long time ago.

                  Added to which you are a pointless cunt who does nothing but post shit BBC links.

                  Fuck off.

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                    • johnnyloadproductions
                      Account Shutdown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 3611
                      #6
                      It's rumored that DamianJ is a really nice guy in real life.

                      Is there any seconds on that?

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                        • nico-t
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                          • Aug 2004
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                          #7

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                            • CurrentlySober
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 38946
                              #8
                              Originally posted by johnnyloadproductions
                              It's rumored that DamianJ is a really nice guy in real life.

                              Is there any seconds on that?
                              Yep. Good guy IRL - I'd happily leave him alone in my house, lend him money or even let him drive my car...


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                                • michael.kickass
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                                  • Mar 2009
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                                  #9
                                  Looks like these guys don't get along very well.
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                                    • DamianJ
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                                      • Jul 2006
                                      • 15808
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by michael.kickass
                                      Looks like these guys don't get along very well.
                                      Well, if someone had scammed you out of money and stolen your content, you'd probably be a little pissed off too.

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                                        • Freaky_Akula
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2005
                                          • 3670
                                          #11
                                          No. They should ban YOU!

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                                            • Klen
                                              • Aug 2006
                                              • 32235
                                              #12
                                              No you should be banned.

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                                                • LeRoy
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                                                  • Jul 2007
                                                  • 13364
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by johnnyloadproductions
                                                  It's rumored that DamianJ is a really nice guy in real life.

                                                  Is there any seconds on that?
                                                  I went to his email thing @ a show. Seems like a nice guy
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                                                    • Rochard
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                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                      • 75733
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by johnnyloadproductions
                                                      It's rumored that DamianJ is a really nice guy in real life.

                                                      Is there any seconds on that?
                                                      Everyone says DamianJ is a great guy.... Everyone.

                                                      I look forward to meeting him some day.
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                                                        • johnnyloadproductions
                                                          Account Shutdown
                                                          • Oct 2008
                                                          • 3611
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                          Everyone says DamianJ is a great guy.... Everyone.

                                                          I look forward to meeting him some day.
                                                          BTW, no matter what you say my office setup is still better than yours.

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                                                            • Bryan G
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                                                              • Aug 2005
                                                              • 8338
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                              Under every post I make he posts insults.

                                                              He states I steal (if so please provide evidence) plus other things.

                                                              I suspect if anyone else did what he did they would be baned.

                                                              Thank you.
                                                              You should be banned you clueless fuck
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                                                                • JFK
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                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 67373
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by michael.kickass
                                                                  Looks like these guys don't get along very well.
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                                                                    • PR_Glen
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                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                      • 9058
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I'd ban DamianJ just for being a magician alone!

                                                                      but other than that he's cool ;)
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                                                                        • ottopottomouse
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                                                                          • Jan 2010
                                                                          • 13177
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                          Added to which you are a pointless cunt who does nothing but post shit BBC links.
                                                                          Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Divvy knew you'd slip up if provoked. He posts Daily Mail links too.

                                                                          Enjoy your ban
                                                                          ↑ see post ↑
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                                                                            • DamianJ
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                              • 15808
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                              I'd ban DamianJ just for being a magician alone!

                                                                              but other than that he's cool ;)
                                                                              hahah

                                                                              I'm not like Gob!

                                                                              Honest!

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                                                                                • u-Bob
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                                                                                  • 33063
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  No .

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                                                                                    • Paul Markham
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                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by johnnyloadproductions
                                                                                      It's rumored that DamianJ is a really nice guy in real life.

                                                                                      Is there any seconds on that?
                                                                                      I will. He's a typical keyboard warrior.

                                                                                      Who for some reason has a pass on GFY to post what he likes. Insults family members, accuses people of things they don't want revealed, attracted to children. Never quite says the whole thing, just insinuations over and over again.

                                                                                      Reported him to Eric and nothing happened.



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                                                                                        • TisMe
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                                                                                          • Aug 2008
                                                                                          • 1719
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          DamianJ is just jealous because Shap does magic AND balloon animals.

                                                                                          No reason to ban him

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                                                                                            • LeRoy
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                                                                                              • Jul 2007
                                                                                              • 13364
                                                                                              #24
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                                                                                                • Quentin
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by johnnyloadproductions
                                                                                                  It's rumored that DamianJ is a really nice guy in real life.

                                                                                                  Is there any seconds on that?
                                                                                                  I'll second that, yes.

                                                                                                  I don't know Damian well, but we met when I moderated an Internext panel he participated in last year. The subject was the manner of copyright litigation targeting mass quantities of torrent users (initially as "John Doe" defendants) that a number of adult studios are engaging in these days, and whether such lawsuits are a good idea. I brought Damian in to help provide the "no, they aren't" side of the debate, and he did a good job. He was respectful of the other panelists, while also being relentless in defending his point of view, which is exactly what I was hoping for.

                                                                                                  It was a good session, and both sides of the argument were well represented. Joining Damian on the "no" side was Matt Zimmerman from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, while the other side of the debate was championed by Gil Sperlein (Titan Media's lead counsel) and Jason Tucker from Private, with copious contribution coming from Marc Randazza, as well, who sat in the front row and was his usual, loquacious self.

                                                                                                  Like a lot of people, I think Damian enjoys a lively board battle, and is quite a bit more aggressive and caustic on the boards than in person. Based on what I observed during the panel, it's clear to me that he also knows when to put that board persona on the shelf for an hour or two. ;-)
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                                                                                                    • MrCain
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                                                                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                                                                      • 3332
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      You should be banned instead.
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                                                                                                        • CHARGER
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          im a niceeeeeeeeee guyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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                                                                                                            • DamianJ
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                                              • 15808
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                              Reported him to Eric and nothing happened.

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                                                                                                                • DWB
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                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                  • 31779
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I don't always agree with Damian, but see no reason to try to ban him. At least his trolling can be intelligent sometimes and can offer a real debate. Great sarcasm too.

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                                                                                                                    • Roald
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                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                      • 27910
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      people who ask to ban people are lame. grow up for god sake.


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                                                                                                                        • Rebel D
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                          • 3916
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by johnnyloadproductions
                                                                                                                          It's rumored that DamianJ is a really nice guy in real life.

                                                                                                                          Is there any seconds on that?

                                                                                                                          I can Confirm this rumor. as well he is very humorous

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                                                                                                                            • DWB
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                                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                              • 31779
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rebel D
                                                                                                                              I can Confirm this rumor. as well he is very humorous
                                                                                                                              I laughed my ass off on his youtube video where he teaches people how to speak like an American. COLOOOOOOOOOOOOR!

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                                                                                                                                • Freaky_Akula
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                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 3670
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                  Reported him to Eric and nothing happened.
                                                                                                                                  You should be banned for polluting this board with your textual diarrhea.

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                                                                                                                                    • Roald
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                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 27910
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by johnnyloadproductions
                                                                                                                                      It's rumored that DamianJ is a really nice guy in real life.

                                                                                                                                      Is there any seconds on that?
                                                                                                                                      He actually is a nice guy. Also funny as shit


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                                                                                                                                        • Scott McD
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                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 67798
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Did "ArseWithClass" get a lifetime ban on here? I can't remember exactly.


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                                                                                                                                            • TisMe
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                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2008
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Freaky_Akula
                                                                                                                                              You should be banned for polluting this board with your textual diarrhea.
                                                                                                                                              Diarrhea involves a substance.

                                                                                                                                              Paul's posts don't meet even that standard.

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                                                                                                                                                • papill0n
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                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                                  • 15547
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  fuck off you stupid piece of shit adam

                                                                                                                                                  you posted a thread a week ago encouraging people to steal shit you thick ugly cunt

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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          You know - this could be settled with lawyers instead of the board, if what is said truly happened then give all the evidence to your lawyer and sue him. If not - then how is GFY going to help either way?
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                                                                                                                                                            • 2MuchMark
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                                                                                                                                                              • 50990
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by johnnyloadproductions
                                                                                                                                                              It's rumored that DamianJ is a really nice guy in real life.

                                                                                                                                                              Is there any seconds on that?
                                                                                                                                                              I'll second that.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Half man, Half Amazing
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                                                                  • 372
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I just did spit out my drink seeing Damian complaining about someone stealing his content. Isn't that just free publicity for your content Damian? I think you owe DVTimes a thank you. Clearly he has adapted to the times better than you.

                                                                                                                                                                  And did he "steal" your content, or just "copy" it? Did he physically take your property? Cuz that's not stealing...that's just copying.
                                                                                                                                                                  Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • DVTimes
                                                                                                                                                                      xxx
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 31658
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Let me just make this clear.

                                                                                                                                                                      DamianJ said he would pay me £40 (I think it was £40) if i did not post on a forum for a week n(I think it was a week).

                                                                                                                                                                      Ihe paid and i didc not post.

                                                                                                                                                                      i said i was off to buy a big trrack. i did buy one and posted the pics. he disd not pay me to buy it but NOT TO POST.

                                                                                                                                                                      Later he said he would pay me £1000 if i did not post. i agreed. later he changed his mind. becase it made him look stupid, he has since spent his time abusing me on both forums.

                                                                                                                                                                      there are also rumers about him and he has not said they were false.

                                                                                                                                                                      they said ian huntley was nice, that means nothing.

                                                                                                                                                                      anyway, feel free to stick up foe somone who spends all day posting abuse about me and paul m. you eather belive in rules or you belive in the school bully mentality.
                                                                                                                                                                      XXX

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                                                                                                                                                                        • L-Pink
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                                          • 39151
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Half man, Half Amazing
                                                                                                                                                                          I just did spit out my drink seeing Damian complaining about someone stealing his content. Isn't that just free publicity for your content Damian? I think you owe DVTimes a thank you. Clearly he has adapted to the times better than you.

                                                                                                                                                                          And did he "steal" your content, or just "copy" it? Did he physically take your property? Cuz that's not stealing...that's just copying.


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                                                                                                                                                                            • DVTimes
                                                                                                                                                                              xxx
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 31658
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                                                                                              DVTimes, everything I say is demonstrable.

                                                                                                                                                                              You have stolen content from me and from Lady Sonia.
                                                                                                                                                                              What content have i stolen from you? please provide evidence? in fact i did not know you produced content at all. can you post pics from your paysite? this is the first time i have heard you had a pay site. did anyone else know he had a paysite?

                                                                                                                                                                              What content did i steal from Lady Sonia? I had a clip they gave me on a blog and yes i admit i added the blog address on the clip BUT it still had the ladt sonia address on and the link on the blog was to the site and it got sales to ladi sonia. i did that becase 5 other sites had hotlinked my clips and it was to stop that.


                                                                                                                                                                              You scammed me out of money.
                                                                                                                                                                              the deal was you paide me to not to post for x amout of time. that was the deal. did i stop posting? yes. so no i did not scam you.

                                                                                                                                                                              did you not later say you would pay me £1000 not to post again. when i agreed did you back down on the deal? yes you did.

                                                                                                                                                                              when i was sending your friends sites sales, did you not pull my ccbill account when i was getting re-bills? yes you did.

                                                                                                                                                                              i think we know who is the scammer.

                                                                                                                                                                              also did you do this to others? well on other forums people say you did.

                                                                                                                                                                              did you offer one webmaster a laptop? have you sent him it yet?


                                                                                                                                                                              You post instructions on how to commit fraud and boast about how much you have made doing these scams.
                                                                                                                                                                              not sure i did. i did post that you could set up an account on xhamster and make money. not sure thats a crime?


                                                                                                                                                                              You should have been banned a very long time ago.
                                                                                                                                                                              you mean you want me baned as you do not like me warning others of you.


                                                                                                                                                                              Added to which you are a pointless cunt who does nothing but post shit BBC links.
                                                                                                                                                                              put me on ignore then.

                                                                                                                                                                              Fuck off.
                                                                                                                                                                              nice

                                                                                                                                                                              sad that you send most of your time bulling paul, an old man. just shows what tipe of person you are.
                                                                                                                                                                              XXX

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Scott McD
                                                                                                                                                                                  Did "ArseWithClass" get a lifetime ban on here? I can't remember exactly.
                                                                                                                                                                                  i thought he had a one month ban but that was a good few months back and i havent seen him anywhere on the boards since.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Deej
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Youre saying Damian ripped your revenue out of a CCbill system because hes friends with a program that you were promoting?

                                                                                                                                                                                      Now thats something I want proof of.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • DVTimes
                                                                                                                                                                                          xxx
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 31658
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Deej
                                                                                                                                                                                          Youre saying Damian ripped your revenue out of a CCbill system because hes friends with a program that you were promoting?

                                                                                                                                                                                          Now thats something I want proof of.
                                                                                                                                                                                          no

                                                                                                                                                                                          what i meant to say was he is the affiliate manager of a site (thats what i meant as friend).

                                                                                                                                                                                          i was getting the site sales.

                                                                                                                                                                                          i had lots of re-bills.

                                                                                                                                                                                          he then got them to pull my ccbill account with that site.

                                                                                                                                                                                          thus they kept the re-bills.

                                                                                                                                                                                          he then posted that he thought it was funny.

                                                                                                                                                                                          io thought i was the only one, then others posted to say the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                          still you live and learn.

                                                                                                                                                                                          do not worry, damian WILL confirm that.

                                                                                                                                                                                          he even tried to post saying i asked him to pull my account?

                                                                                                                                                                                          i postyed the forum post that proved that to be a fib.

                                                                                                                                                                                          as i say, damian will confirm that he pulled my account.

                                                                                                                                                                                          of couse it will be interesting to see what excuse he gives or how he will weezel his way out of it.
                                                                                                                                                                                          XXX

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • SGS
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DVTimes

                                                                                                                                                                                              He states I steal (if so please provide evidence) plus other things.
                                                                                                                                                                                              I would be happy to provide that you fucking moron as you re-watermarked with your own site content stolen from me.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                                                                                                                                                                  no

                                                                                                                                                                                                  what i meant to say was he is the affiliate manager of a site (thats what i meant as friend).

                                                                                                                                                                                                  i was getting the site sales.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  i had lots of re-bills.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  he then got them to pull my ccbill account with that site.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  thus they kept the re-bills.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  he then posted that he thought it was funny.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  io thought i was the only one, then others posted to say the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  still you live and learn.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  do not worry, damian WILL confirm that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  he even tried to post saying i asked him to pull my account?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  i postyed the forum post that proved that to be a fib.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  as i say, damian will confirm that he pulled my account.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  of couse it will be interesting to see what excuse he gives or how he will weezel his way out of it.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SGS
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I would be happy to provide that you fucking moron as you re-watermarked with your own site content stolen from me.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      no

                                                                                                                                                                                                      as i stated i added the link to my blog.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      i did NOT remove your link did I?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      i did not steal your content as it was content you provided to promote your site.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      the link was to your site was it not? yes it was.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      the reason i did it was that other blogs were hotlinking the vid, were they not?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      the bizare thing is tube sites are full of your content, yet you do nothing about that. i eve posted links ages ago on xhamster (with no link to your site and your water mark removed) and i belive you said you did not care.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      i removed the clip from my blog.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      that clip had only 4 views i belive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      and again what content did i steal from damian? iagain i did not know he shot any content.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      ps

                                                                                                                                                                                                      personaly i feel you just wanted to make a drama over a clip with 4 views.
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