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So let me see if I get this.
You put up scenes on clips4sale and you also promote the site as well, sending it traffic.
Why not just put up the scenes on your own server and have a Pay Per Scene option?
Sorry if I sound dumb, but I thought it was a twist on the PPV sites.Comment
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Traffic paul, traffic.Comment
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Well I assume they send traffic back if the video is watermarked.
So they have the traffic and there is no need to send them more?
Just reading it and people were saying they are sending them traffic and wondering why if there's no affiliate program. I understand clips4sale has traffic and thought the sales would come off that.Comment
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Some of us do send it traffic to boot and do not depend soley on their traffic.
Yet we do syphon off traffic to our own sites via water marking and other ways, plus we get extra income source. Rather make a few hundred more sales at 6.00 each a month for little work, than none at all. Yet I can still have my own PPV site too.Comment
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Two words.
Targeted traffic.
This is one of the main differences IMHO between adult, and mainstream. Mainstream you have to get very very targeted. You may be converting at 1/10 a day. So your conversions are high, but traffic is low.
In adult you throw everything, but the kitchen sink at your site, and hope enough shit stinks into sales.
Maybe if you are a mainstream, or middle of the road porn site. But not niche sites. You want to get as targeted as possible. Then you can do more with less.
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It's also about name recognition. C4S has a lot of trusted members who like that format for sites. They know, and trust it. Making conversions easier for your shit.
C4S is just extra money (if you have membership sites). Or can be the main source, and the others are gravy. Either way, it's a good system if you know how to work it.Comment
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Just sent this thread to Neil...
Speaking of promotion for the site... If you are in Ohio you can see clips4sale spokesmodel, Ashley Fires, feature dance there as promotion for c4s also.. She will be dancing at Columbus Gold Club in Columbus Ohio next week Nov.13-17th sponsored by Clips 4 Sale...Comment
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Reply from Neil... He asked me to post this on his behalf...
Tropical is one of clips4sale's merchants and the url is setup for the bank to use. Anyone with questions should call me direct 727-804-3005
Also if you have any questions you can hit me up.. I can answer some myself or point you in the right direction...Comment
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I shot him an e-mail this morning as well. But I am sure he was not up at 3 AM when I was reviewing my logs.
As previously mentioned, I am not accusing C4S of anything. Simply looking for an answer to the riddle and to see if others noticed this, or had dealt with it before.Comment
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Having made and reviewed test sales from the different domain names, I can say that we have always gotten credit for the sale. I have almost no doubt that, other than possible confusion to a surfer, it is not an issue.
The biggest issue with Clips4sale is, ironically enough, their own success. As more and more stores sign up, the value of updating continues to go down - and you quickly realize that, with Clips4sale, if you are not on their main page because of a store update, surfers are much less likely to find your site. And while that is great for the stores in their top 50, it is not for everyone else.
Unlike many other VOD or Clips sites, which split the site into sections - such as straight, fetish, gay, etc. - to make it easier for a surfer to find the content they want to see, Clips4sale has all the stores lumped together. In light of the fact that the site is close to doubling the number of stores it has in just the last year, I seriously hope that some type of redesign is coming in the near future.Comment
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Could not have said it better myself... Gonna forward that comment over from this thread to Neil myself... Great ideas and way to put it....
Hit me up this week sometime soon... I have another fetish webmaster/shooter/whatever that I would like for us to all get together with for a powwow dinner.Comment
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spend 3 bucks and buy a clip and see if you get credit for it and avoid the whole thread .
Last week I had sales of 13,18,18,20,0,0,0,4 LOL, go figureOur site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and PennyComment
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Hey Revsand,
Will do. Just to be clear, I think Clips4sale was a great idea, and their success speaks to a need in the market that others just did not see.
Here is an example. Lets say you had a members area with 30 one hour movies and a 50% affiliate program. Pricing the site at $30 would seem too high to many people, but after an affiliate sale, you only make $15 - so, after processing fees, you make less than a dollar a movie. That is not a lot, considering how much time and effort went into making and editing that movie. But if you run a membership site through any of the major billing companies, that is basically your only option.
Take one of those same movies and burn it to a DVD - and now you charge $25 to $50 for the exact same movie you sell on your web site. Does burning a digital file to a 50 cent piece of plastic really add that much value to it? No, but now you feel the freedom to charge what you think it is worth. While it would be great if Clips4sale allowed more latitude for people to set their own prices for their clips, especially for the shorter ones, at least you don't get the feeling that you are giving your work away for free when you sell through them.Comment
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clips4sale have become a huge success.. a place for the indio producers to sell their niche/fetish content. i had a store up there when they first started out but didnt really see a return on investment...and i dont shoot a lot of fetish although pantyhose is quickly becoming one of my faves to shoot."Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author UnknownComment
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what is the usuall traffic you get for your clips4sale store? I get between 900-1700 hits per day, but I am not sure if this is alot or not....Join My Affiliate Program at http://www.affiliate-cash.de/reg.php...=26787&lang=en and hit me up for all promo content you need!
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It depends on the day, but I'm usually a minimum of 20k. You ahve to keep in mind with niche fetishes though that the number of hits isn't as important as the quality of them. I could get 20k in hits from a teen fetish or milf fetish store, and they wouldn't convert. Look at the traffic breakdown, and see if the hits you are getting are from sources that are likely to convert (particularly if/when you are buying traffic).Comment
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the traffic I get is just from banner exchange and refferes, but 20k, well this is not too bad :-) maybe my niche is too special to draw large attention to the crowds...Join My Affiliate Program at http://www.affiliate-cash.de/reg.php...=26787&lang=en and hit me up for all promo content you need!
http://top-pantyhose.com
http://pantyhose-24.com
http://sexypantyhose.eu
http://fetishmother.com
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NOTE TO ALL PRODUCERS:
If you see another url going to your clip store like ( tropical productions, or
suncoast productions ) This is nothing to worry about. We have setup separate sites so that
our fraud scrubbing company can easily sift through all the stores looking for illegal or banned content.
Each merchant has it's own url and if anyone orders through one of
these urls you will of course still get credit and paid for that sale.
Just wanted to clear this up in case anyone was worried. Hopefully this will not confuse you
Thanks
NeilComment
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