If your e-cig sucks.. Get this.. (You'll never smoke again)
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This is my setup: (note the image isn't mine)
I use a Provari with a clockworks RTA (Rebuildable Tank Atomiser).
I was buying my e-liquid from a place in the UK but found Gourmet Vapor which is a US based vendor and REALLY liked some of their stuff so I order from them all the time now.Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.Comment
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This is my setup: (note the image isn't mine)
I use a Provari with a clockworks RTA (Rebuildable Tank Atomiser).
I was buying my e-liquid from a place in the UK but found Gourmet Vapor which is a US based vendor and REALLY liked some of their stuff so I order from them all the time now.
I like the button on the side ... not my color .. but very very nicely made, nonetheless
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Where'd you get the clockwork RTA?
This is my setup: (note the image isn't mine)
I use a Provari with a clockworks RTA (Rebuildable Tank Atomiser).
I was buying my e-liquid from a place in the UK but found Gourmet Vapor which is a US based vendor and REALLY liked some of their stuff so I order from them all the time now.
Because nicotine in and of itself - while it is a classified as a poison because too much can kill you quickly - has very low health risk. Yes, nicotine is a diuretic, suppresses appetite and can increase blood pressure, but it's not something that will kill you.
The danger from smoking comes from 2 things. The smoke itself which contains tar and such, and all the other 50,000 chemicals they add to cigarettes.
E-Cigs on the other hand contain no - or so minute that they're considered harmless - carcinogens, no added chemicals, no smoke - it's vapor, think of steam coming off a pot of boiling water - etc. The only chemicals in general are nicotine, vegetable glycerin, propelyne glycol, water/vodka, and flavoring. Now, some flavorings can be dangerous, and generally speaking I recommend LorAnn flavorings which are mostly all safe - except for anything containing oil - and the e-cig community can help point you to many other brands of flavoring that are safe.
A little history regarding the e-cig... the FDA has been trying extremely hard to ban them. This is only due to the fact that they cannot classify them as medical devices - which would allow them to tax them under big pharm like the patches and such are - and they cannot be classified as tobacco products because they contain no tobacco. This basically means that both big tobacco and big pharm companies lose out, as does the FDA/US gov. And as history has proven, if they can't find a way to tax it, they don't want you to have it. Same situation applies to online gambling... there's no way for them to reliably tax your earnings, and therefore it is illegal.
Anyway, smoking is absolutely the hardest bad habit to kick, for many people. This is mainly due to the fact that big tobacco companies essentially lace cigarettes with endless other chemicals; and many, many of those chemicals are addictive themselves. And while the average person may kind of sort of know this, they really don't. The average smoker believes themselves to be addicted to the nicotine, when in reality - while nicotine is addictive - they are addicted to countless chemicals. Which is why it's so hard to quit.Comment
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Where'd you get the clockwork RTA?
Because nicotine in and of itself - while it is a classified as a poison because too much can kill you quickly - has very low health risk. Yes, nicotine is a diuretic, suppresses appetite and can increase blood pressure, but it's not something that will kill you.
The danger from smoking comes from 2 things. The smoke itself which contains tar and such, and all the other 50,000 chemicals they add to cigarettes.
E-Cigs on the other hand contain no - or so minute that they're considered harmless - carcinogens, no added chemicals, no smoke - it's vapor, think of steam coming off a pot of boiling water - etc. The only chemicals in general are nicotine, vegetable glycerin, propelyne glycol, water/vodka, and flavoring. Now, some flavorings can be dangerous, and generally speaking I recommend LorAnn flavorings which are mostly all safe - except for anything containing oil - and the e-cig community can help point you to many other brands of flavoring that are safe.
A little history regarding the e-cig... the FDA has been trying extremely hard to ban them. This is only due to the fact that they cannot classify them as medical devices - which would allow them to tax them under big pharm like the patches and such are - and they cannot be classified as tobacco products because they contain no tobacco. This basically means that both big tobacco and big pharm companies lose out, as does the FDA/US gov. And as history has proven, if they can't find a way to tax it, they don't want you to have it. Same situation applies to online gambling... there's no way for them to reliably tax your earnings, and therefore it is illegal.
Anyway, smoking is absolutely the hardest bad habit to kick, for many people. This is mainly due to the fact that big tobacco companies essentially lace cigarettes with endless other chemicals; and many, many of those chemicals are addictive themselves. And while the average person may kind of sort of know this, they really don't. The average smoker believes themselves to be addicted to the nicotine, when in reality - while nicotine is addictive - they are addicted to countless chemicals. Which is why it's so hard to quit.
Exactly right, and they have something like an 80% success rate. The gum, the patch and the other replacement therapies have no better success rate than not using anything, in other words they don't help at all.Comment
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This videos shows how cigarettes are made, what they add to them.. If you're impatient go to 7:40 to understand exactly why vaporizing is better for you than vaping.
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All that shit has a 95% failure rate.. patch, gum, etc and government approved literature tells people that they can "step down" (stepping down actually makes withdrawl long and horrible) and that a "slip" is okay (with nicotine even one use can put most people back to square one- even years after they've used)... if you want to quit nicotine, you have the best shot at it going cold turkey.Comment
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Where'd you get the clockwork RTA?
Because nicotine in and of itself - while it is a classified as a poison because too much can kill you quickly - has very low health risk. Yes, nicotine is a diuretic, suppresses appetite and can increase blood pressure, but it's not something that will kill you.
The danger from smoking comes from 2 things. The smoke itself which contains tar and such, and all the other 50,000 chemicals they add to cigarettes.
E-Cigs on the other hand contain no - or so minute that they're considered harmless - carcinogens, no added chemicals, no smoke - it's vapor, think of steam coming off a pot of boiling water - etc. The only chemicals in general are nicotine, vegetable glycerin, propelyne glycol, water/vodka, and flavoring. Now, some flavorings can be dangerous, and generally speaking I recommend LorAnn flavorings which are mostly all safe - except for anything containing oil - and the e-cig community can help point you to many other brands of flavoring that are safe.
A little history regarding the e-cig... the FDA has been trying extremely hard to ban them. This is only due to the fact that they cannot classify them as medical devices - which would allow them to tax them under big pharm like the patches and such are - and they cannot be classified as tobacco products because they contain no tobacco. This basically means that both big tobacco and big pharm companies lose out, as does the FDA/US gov. And as history has proven, if they can't find a way to tax it, they don't want you to have it. Same situation applies to online gambling... there's no way for them to reliably tax your earnings, and therefore it is illegal.
Anyway, smoking is absolutely the hardest bad habit to kick, for many people. This is mainly due to the fact that big tobacco companies essentially lace cigarettes with endless other chemicals; and many, many of those chemicals are addictive themselves. And while the average person may kind of sort of know this, they really don't. The average smoker believes themselves to be addicted to the nicotine, when in reality - while nicotine is addictive - they are addicted to countless chemicals. Which is why it's so hard to quit.
Well, most people can go from cigarettes to vaping without any withdrawl.. I'm one.. even though I smoked Newports and had horrible horrible withdrawl when I didn't smoke..
There's a detox period where your body is getting clean of all of the cigarette chemicals, so it definitely feels "different" at first .... for sure
Also there are some people who are thought to also be addicted to some other things in cigarettes... like some of the mild maois... they make a liquid for those people it's called "whole tobacco alkaloid" or "wta" e-juice
I agree 100% about the government. The FDA is in bed with big tobacco. People don't realize what a HUGE and STEADY source of revenue tobacco taxes are.. it's obscenely huge.
Cigarettes have hundreds of times the FDA set "acceptable safe level" of many many chemicals.... yet they want to go after e-cigs producing water vapor. They tried to say they had the same thing antifreeze has in it (while it's actually the same thing that's in asthma inhalers- pg), tried to say they were being marketed to kids, on and on .... all bullshit nonsense ..
Then out of 100 juices you can buy they found some trace amounts of a carcinogen in ONE of them and tried to use that to scare everyone. . I thought it was funny, because they found parts per million and yet every cigarette has 1000 times the amount of the same thing they found .. motherfuckersComment

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