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  • blackmonsters
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    • Nov 2002
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    #1

    Ebay rules and fees?? Did I read it right?

    Is it true that you can now list up to 50 items a month for sell without a insertion fee?

    Meaning that if I list 10 items for $10 and none of them sell then I don't owe any money?

    It sounds too goog to be true, so maybe I didn't read it correctly.

    I hope so.
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  • BIGTYMER
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    • Nov 2004
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    #2
    Not sure if it's 50 but they have been doing limited free insertions for a bit.

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    • Flow
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      • Aug 2002
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      #3
      I am pretty sure you are right. They just bend you over if you actually sell something with all of their fees.

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      • blackmonsters
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        • Nov 2002
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        #4
        Originally posted by Flow
        I am pretty sure you are right. They just bend you over if you actually sell something with all of their fees.
        That's what it seems to say here :




        I'll take the hit on a sale; but taking that hit on non-sales made me quit using ebay.

        You are never guaranteed enough views to sale anything in that vast sea of junk.
        It's not even like a real auction where a captive audience will view your item,
        so paying those fees without selling stunk.
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        • AllAboutCams
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          #5
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          • BradBreakfast
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            #6
            eBay's high fee's are catching up to them. Full time sellers are angry and looking for other options.

            I think with fee's so high, it really opens the door for a new online auction company.
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            • brassmonkey
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              #7
              Originally posted by blackmonsters
              Is it true that you can now list up to 50 items a month for sell without a insertion fee?

              Meaning that if I list 10 items for $10 and none of them sell then I don't owe any money?

              It sounds too goog to be true, so maybe I didn't read it correctly.

              I hope so.
              yep no fee until you sell it luv that place
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              • BIGTYMER
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                • Nov 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by BradBreakfast
                eBay's high fee's are catching up to them. Full time sellers are angry and looking for other options.

                I think with fee's so high, it really opens the door for a new online auction company.
                This is nothing new. We've been saying it for years. eBay is the worst!

                They only care about the buyer.

                This is one example of why you need competition.

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                • Sly
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                  • Sep 2004
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                  #9
                  I don't think the fees are too bad. Much better than Amazon. What's killing me is the holding period.
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                  • blackmonsters
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                    • Nov 2002
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                    #10
                    I wish ebay would get a clue about viewing listings though.

                    For example : I want to sort a category by most bids received or highest bids received.
                    Seems to me that would help me find what is hot.
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                    • blackmonsters
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                      • Nov 2002
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sly
                      I don't think the fees are too bad. Much better than Amazon. What's killing me is the holding period.
                      Holding period?

                      What?

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                      • Sly
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                        • Sep 2004
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by blackmonsters
                        Holding period?

                        What?

                        I don't know about small merchandise, but I sell big-ticket items. My minimum item is $3000. Almost every time I get a sale, there is a three week holding period on my money. The money will be in my PayPal account, but I will not be able to use it until the holding period is over.
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                        • blackmonsters
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sly
                          I don't know about small merchandise, but I sell big-ticket items. My minimum item is $3000. Almost every time I get a sale, there is a three week holding period on my money. The money will be in my PayPal account, but I will not be able to use it until the holding period is over.
                          Well, that blows.



                          But I guess it cuts down on fraud sells.
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                          • SykkBoy
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                            • Feb 2001
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                            #14
                            I've been playing with bonanza lately and so far, so good. They don't have the traffic that Ebay does, but the sales are pretty close to the same level with about 1/3 rd the views. Anyone else using bonanza? How about long term?
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                            • brassmonkey
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sly
                              I don't know about small merchandise, but I sell big-ticket items. My minimum item is $3000. Almost every time I get a sale, there is a three week holding period on my money. The money will be in my PayPal account, but I will not be able to use it until the holding period is over.
                              hmm i try to stay away from stuff over 2 grand most of my items are in the $200 range. if you have fast delivery your funds are released sooner.
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                              • LouiseLloyd
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Sly
                                I don't know about small merchandise, but I sell big-ticket items. My minimum item is $3000. Almost every time I get a sale, there is a three week holding period on my money. The money will be in my PayPal account, but I will not be able to use it until the holding period is over.
                                I have been selling products average price $100-300 and also hit by the 21 day holding period on a number of accounts with clean non-dispute history.

                                They either want an email stating the item was delivered or the buyer has left positive feedback before they'll consider releasing before 21 days, really sucks when you're selling discreet goods that people don't really want connecting to their feedback!

                                In my experience the biggest scammers are the buyers who face no penalties for this unlike sellers.

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                                • brassmonkey
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SykkBoy
                                  I've been playing with bonanza lately and so far, so good. They don't have the traffic that Ebay does, but the sales are pretty close to the same level with about 1/3 rd the views. Anyone else using bonanza? How about long term?
                                  not too sure about them i have a booth over there. i do better over at etsy
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                                  • ninavain
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                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 6268

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                    Is it true that you can now list up to 50 items a month for sell without a insertion fee?

                                    Meaning that if I list 10 items for $10 and none of them sell then I don't owe any money?

                                    It sounds too goog to be true, so maybe I didn't read it correctly.

                                    I hope so.
                                    its true..been doing it for almost a year now

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                                    • SiMpLe
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                                      • Feb 2002
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BradBreakfast
                                      eBay's high fee's are catching up to them. Full time sellers are angry and looking for other options.

                                      I think with fee's so high, it really opens the door for a new online auction company.
                                      I have 3 stores on ebay and one on amazon - They are pretty much neck and neck with the fee's. But yea not to happy... USPS needs a economy option too. From West coast to East coast it's a given $10+ - Can't ship a 12inch dildos media mail anymore lolz
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                                      • Sly
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                                        • Sep 2004
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SiMpLe
                                        I have 3 stores on ebay and one on amazon - They are pretty much neck and neck with the fee's. But yea not to happy... USPS needs a economy option too. From West coast to East coast it's a given $10+ - Can't ship a 12inch dildos media mail anymore lolz
                                        I guess it depends on what you are selling. I pay 15% on Amazon, I think it's like three on eBay? Even with the massive difference in the rates, I still make way more on Amazon. No haggling.

                                        I look at Amazon/eBay as free sales. Virtually no work. Granted, I want the lowest fee as possible, but if paying 15% allows me to gain extra sales then so be it.

                                        What are some other sales sites? I wouldn't mind setting up more stores.
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                                        • SiMpLe
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SykkBoy
                                          I've been playing with bonanza lately and so far, so good. They don't have the traffic that Ebay does, but the sales are pretty close to the same level with about 1/3 rd the views. Anyone else using bonanza? How about long term?
                                          Bonanza allow novelties / toys, lubes, enhancement products? I'm all over that shit if they do!
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                                          • brassmonkey
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Sly
                                            I guess it depends on what you are selling. I pay 15% on Amazon, I think it's like three on eBay? Even with the massive difference in the rates, I still make way more on Amazon. No haggling.

                                            I look at Amazon/eBay as free sales. Virtually no work. Granted, I want the lowest fee as possible, but if paying 15% allows me to gain extra sales then so be it.

                                            What are some other sales sites? I wouldn't mind setting up more stores.
                                            theirs even a better stream but im not sharing
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                                            • SiMpLe
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                                              • Feb 2002
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Sly
                                              I guess it depends on what you are selling. I pay 15% on Amazon, I think it's like three on eBay? Even with the massive difference in the rates, I still make way more on Amazon. No haggling.

                                              I look at Amazon/eBay as free sales. Virtually no work. Granted, I want the lowest fee as possible, but if paying 15% allows me to gain extra sales then so be it.

                                              What are some other sales sites? I wouldn't mind setting up more stores.
                                              All my stores carry items from 4.00 to 300.00 so my fee's on ebay/paypal/usps (included together) average between 15-21% depending on the BIN and Amazon is at 15% plus a few nickle and dimes here and there for postage and some other tiny fee's.

                                              If you sell stuff over $1k I guess you get 3% ebay?? That's kickass if you get that low rate. I need to source and find diamond crusted butt plugs
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                                              • Sly
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                                                #24
                                                Yeh my eBay fees are around 3%. I don't know if that's because of transaction value or because of my product type. But like I said, after all of the haggling and back and forth, I usually make more money per sale on Amazon with the 15% hit, LOL.
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                                                • SykkBoy
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by SiMpLe
                                                  Bonanza allow novelties / toys, lubes, enhancement products? I'm all over that shit if they do!
                                                  apparently they do, but there's little competition

                                                  http://www.bonanza.com/items/search?...oreload=true&q[filter_category_id]=&q[search_term]=sex+toys&q[shipping_in_price]=0&q[sort_by]=relevancy&q[translate_term]=true
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                                                  • brassmonkey
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SykkBoy
                                                    apparently they do, but there's little competition

                                                    http://www.bonanza.com/items/search?...oreload=true&q[filter_category_id]=&q[search_term]=sex+toys&q[shipping_in_price]=0&q[sort_by]=relevancy&q[translate_term]=true
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                                                    • dallasnovelty
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                                                      #27
                                                      Bonanza will shut you down quick for slingin dildos and shit They shut the smaller adult stores But then they allow bigger companies to sell whatever they want. There is nobody to talk to dispute anything at corporate once your blocked. All it takes is a few competitors to report you. Its been a few months since I last tried but I'm sure its the same thing.
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                                                      • brassmonkey
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by dallasnovelty
                                                        Bonanza will shut you down quick for slingin dildos and shit They shut the smaller adult stores But then they allow bigger companies to sell whatever they want. There is nobody to talk to dispute anything at corporate once your blocked. All it takes is a few competitors to report you. Its been a few months since I last tried but I'm sure its the same thing.
                                                        there's a place that gets way more traffic that you can list them and its not ebay
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                                                        • dallasnovelty
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                                                          #29
                                                          was it mentioned previously in the thread?
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                                                          • Scott McD
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                                                            #30
                                                            Ebay is 100% about the buyers.

                                                            Sellers get fucked over big time!


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                                                            • SykkBoy
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by dallasnovelty
                                                              Bonanza will shut you down quick for slingin dildos and shit They shut the smaller adult stores But then they allow bigger companies to sell whatever they want. There is nobody to talk to dispute anything at corporate once your blocked. All it takes is a few competitors to report you. Its been a few months since I last tried but I'm sure its the same thing.
                                                              Thanks for the info.
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                                                              • brassmonkey
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Scott McD
                                                                Ebay is 100% about the buyers.

                                                                Sellers get fucked over big time!
                                                                not true ive had two disputes and won both.
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                                                                • sandman!
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  ebay fee's suck ass they have tripled over the years...
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