HD cam sites?

**MaDalton** · 06-19-2012, 09:25 AM

http://www.flatfeecams.com/live/index.html via www.cashdorado.com

**ShoeBox** · 06-19-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by MaDalton

http://www.flatfeecams.com/live/index.html via www.cashdorado.com

Is that strickly for european traffic?

**TheSwed** · 06-19-2012, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by MaDalton

http://www.flatfeecams.com/live/index.html via www.cashdorado.com

flatfeecams redirect me to 88square.com/v3 and that site give me a 403 *lol*

**MaDalton** · 06-19-2012, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by ShoeBox

Is that strickly for european traffic?

no, any traffic is fine (as far as i know)

Originally posted by TheSwed

flatfeecams redirect me to 88square.com/v3 and that site give me a 403 *lol*

i dont know about redirects (besides german traffic that goes to Fundorado.de but is credited), but i will send them this thread

**TheSwed** · 06-19-2012, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by MaDalton

no, any traffic is fine (as far as i know)

i dont know about redirects (besides german traffic that goes to Fundorado.de but is credited), but i will send them this thread

I guess they dont like Pattaya

**MaDalton** · 06-19-2012, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by TheSwed

I guess they dont like Pattaya

well, i didnt like it either

**ShoeBox** · 06-19-2012, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by TheSwed

I guess they dont like Pattaya

both work fine here

**Barry-xlovecam** · 06-19-2012, 10:37 AM

We have "HQ" and some HD cams.

Look and see if we have your niche. Left side menu >> Featured Private Shows tab

The niches appear in an affiliate XML file.

Code:

<tags><tag>Stockings</tag><tag>Boots</tag><tag>Tickling</tag><tag>Pantyhose</tag><tag>Fetishes</tag><tag>Moaning</tag><tag>Oil</tag><tag>Legs</tag><tag>Latex</tag><tag>Masturbation</tag><tag>Nurse</tag><tag>Oral</tag><tag>Foot</tag><tag>Sound Chat</tag><tag>Heels</tag><tag>Vibrator</tag><tag>Zoom Cam</tag></tags>

You would have to parse it and sort your own "niche array" out.

Question ICQ is in sig below

**daniel_webcams** · 06-19-2012, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by ShoeBox

I need cam sites with HD cams in a specific niche ,

sites i dont want are (pussycash , webcamwiz or awe)

please add me to icq 621-709-637 if you have cam's that are in hd ,

Gay & Straight cams thanks!

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**ShoeBox** · 06-19-2012, 02:04 PM

Sounds good thanks ill be back around 8 est so if Ur not on ill talk w u Tom

**bluebook18** · 06-19-2012, 02:31 PM

shoebox man online your ICQ now ...

**x-rate** · 06-19-2012, 03:03 PM

Flirt4free, Streamate, Ifriends, etc... most of site have HD now

**hony** · 06-19-2012, 07:19 PM

I think you have to define what counts as HD? Is it just "better than regular", or is it literally 1920×1080? And then we're not talking about compression; many cam sites now let you drag the video window pretty much full screen, but if they compress the hell out of it it isn't worth anything. And none of them have control over the camgirls camera and upload speed.

**Ajay213** · 06-19-2012, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by hony

I think you have to define what counts as HD? Is it just "better than regular", or is it literally 1920×1080? And then we're not talking about compression; many cam sites now let you drag the video window pretty much full screen, but if they compress the hell out of it it isn't worth anything. And none of them have control over the camgirls camera and upload speed.

This is the important part, cams.com, streammate and probably others call it 'HD', but the model is only sending out a sub 1Mbps stream of 640x480 into an Adobe Media Server. The quality is better than the 'norm', but it's far from HD.

From a technical side 'true' HD simple isn't going to be realistic for a number of years, 1920x1080 at 7-20Mbps, the average cam model doesn't have an internet connection with that kind of upload bandwidth, the average sub $100 web cam isn't going to produce a nice full resolution imagine, etc.

**Barry-xlovecam** · 06-19-2012, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by Ajay213

[F]rom a technical side 'true' HD simple isn't going to be realistic for a number of years, 1920x1080 at 7-20Mbps, the average cam model doesn't have an internet connection with that kind of upload bandwidth, the average sub $100 web cam isn't going to produce a nice full resolution imagine, etc.

Our Flux Broadcaster can theoretically do 1080 P HD now.

Professional studios don't use $100 cams ... Many have multiple computers with webcast cams attached to each in the $300 - $600 range, maybe 3 cams on one cam girl. 60% of our cams are from studios the rest from independents that might be using $100 consumer cams -- they cannot broadcast in HD

Don't compare a file or DVD run locally or even streamed to live webcam broadcasts. Apart from videochatting with a real person is not comparable to watching a video the main problem in the quality is in the cam; good quality webcams are not in the class of professional cams used in video production they are made to record not webcast. Different animal ...

**Umbalabob** · 06-20-2012, 08:20 AM

Hi Swed,

just sent you a request on ICQ. So I can explain you the 88square thing and our HD cam site flatfeecams.com Your users will love it. 14,95 $ Flatrate for 24/7 HD-cams per month works great for our international affiliates. 453531313 is my ICQ or hit me in skype s.muehli.

THX Ma Dalton for the forwarding of the thread cu in CZ ;-)

**LatinCams** · 06-20-2012, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Umbalabob

Hi Swed,

just sent you a request on ICQ. So I can explain you the 88square thing and our HD cam site flatfeecams.com Your users will love it. 14,95 $ Flatrate for 24/7 HD-cams per month works great for our international affiliates. 453531313 is my ICQ or hit me in skype s.muehli.

THX Ma Dalton for the forwarding of the thread cu in CZ ;-)

Dont look like Live Cams thought ...

**hony** · 06-20-2012, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by LatinCams

Dont look like Live Cams thought ...

Yep agreed, that's my problem when I came to do a review of it. Basically nothing to see as it's like looking at a paysite.

Any chance I can get a reviewer account so I can do a proper review?

**ShoeBox** · 06-20-2012, 09:58 PM

I need tranny cam sites that sale

**CashDorado** · 09-10-2012, 02:30 AM

Hello hony, please write a short email to [email protected], if not done already, and we will set up an account for you to review our sites.

Everything is LIVE including our 3D and HD cams (720p).

And yes, it's like a paysite, because a user pays only a monthly flat fee and has access to all our studio cams

**ClickCashEmily** · 09-10-2012, 06:51 AM

iFriends does offer HQ and HD cams. Many of the HD/HQ models host in our Free-to-go-Private area, so you can get a preview of the video without even needing an iFriends account.

You can update much of our dynamic creative to pull just the HD cams if you want, too, so that you can ensure the best customer experience and high conversion rates. Or you can use the standard text links to send folks through to them as well. Let me know how I can help you out! You can email me to [email protected] or drop me an ICQ at #497-840-207

~Emily

**adultmobile** · 09-10-2012, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Ajay213

This is the important part, cams.com, streammate and probably others call it 'HD', but the model is only sending out a sub 1Mbps stream of 640x480 into an Adobe Media Server. The quality is better than the 'norm', but it's far from HD.

From a technical side 'true' HD simple isn't going to be realistic for a number of years, 1920x1080 at 7-20Mbps, the average cam model doesn't have an internet connection with that kind of upload bandwidth, the average sub $100 web cam isn't going to produce a nice full resolution imagine, etc.

Actually 99% of cam sites considers 320x240 as normal, and 640x480 as HD, as you said.
The difference it can be seen especially if going fullscreen or enlarge video, but marketing as HD a 640x480 it is quite misleading.
We at tubecamgirl.com do not even care to label HD those streams in 640x480, simply we list together 320x240 and 640x480 ones, actually the 320x240 are becoming rare in most sites anyway.

About 1920x1080 it is possible today, as long as a few things are considered. Especially that 99.99% of live models and studios send the same video to 2 or more sites at same time.
We made some tests with studios with upload bandwidth of 5000bkps+ with HDMI-connected sony cams AND with high end Logitech cams, who capture and sends at 1920x1080. So in most cases the stream (H264 codec of flash 11+ with proper settings) it would be fast enough to be called live. But you could see the difference only if you put that in fullscreen on a 20 inches monitor really. And since while sending such a stream the pc was very busy, the same stream couid not be sent to other sites via splitcam even in 640x480, without make all slower, the 1920x1080 stream especially.
So it is working but not worth as too few final users see the difference, and the model/studio can not profit from split-camming the video to 2+ sites as they always do.

We made some tests at 800x600 and that is more ok, but some logitech cams will capture it slow, making some blurring on movements (does not depend by pc's cpu or bandwidth in upload it seems), so we prefer to keep 640x480 default as that's pretty supported.
In fact every different cam and split-cam and connection situation should have different settings - a setting per model (until she updates or changes anything on her end) to make sure it works... so is that worth to tweak... for model to show a few more pixels to guys who may not even enlarge the video vindow enough?

**hony** · 09-17-2012, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by CashDorado

Hello hony, please write a short email to [email protected], if not done already, and we will set up an account for you to review our sites.

Thanks, email sent.

**hony** · 09-17-2012, 06:44 PM

Email failed:

[email protected]
SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<[email protected]>:
host fndu-access.freenet-ag.de [194.97.116.77]:
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**Barry-xlovecam** · 09-17-2012, 07:17 PM

Problem with HD is the CPU demand and the available bandwidth.

We have tested 720p and could do in theory 1080p. Logitec claims that HD quality but few can transmit the images fast enough to our FMS-3 servers.

Another few years; most cam broadcasts with capture cards and good computers with the necessary available bandwidth will be in HD. Splitcam cant work as you need a dedicated bandwidth stream to transmit the larger image sizes required. 16:9 WS is the format not the old 4:3 also.

**adultmobile** · 09-17-2012, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

Problem with HD is the CPU demand and the available bandwidth.

We have tested 720p and could do in theory 1080p. Logitec claims that HD quality but few can transmit the images fast enough to our FMS-3 servers.

Another few years; most cam broadcasts with capture cards and good computers with the necessary available bandwidth will be in HD. Splitcam cant work as you need a dedicated bandwidth stream to transmit the larger image sizes required. 16:9 WS is the format not the old 4:3 also.

Some encoding can benefit of some hardwares then it runs fast; there is one logitech cam which include an hardware H264 encoder at it seems to work with flash 11.x h264 codec; and there are "tricks" to make hardware work on else streams work via some video cards, it depends the codecs installed in windows and its settings, that's a little esoterism however, a cam site can't spend time to teach this to every single model (given some are really lazy to learn anything technical) - so such a real HD will be commercially viable only when it will work "automatically" on the majority of the standard cam girl pc's.

**Gozarian** · 09-18-2012, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by hony

I think you have to define what counts as HD? Is it just "better than regular", or is it literally 1920×1080? And then we're not talking about compression; many cam sites now let you drag the video window pretty much full screen, but if they compress the hell out of it it isn't worth anything. And none of them have control over the camgirls camera and upload speed.

And EVERY girl is split camming which can further degrade quality depending on the splitter utilized.

**adultmobile** · 09-18-2012, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by Gozarian

And EVERY girl is split camming which can further degrade quality depending on the splitter utilized.

Yes what I said: we coud made a working test if 1920x1080 stream but the girl wanted to splitcam to mfc + other sites and video was too slow then. In fact if a cam site eats too much traffic from a cam girl, she will "skip it" from her sites list. Some studios keep 13 sites open at same time, this is 13 x 300kbps minimum needed, and CPU dies before of bandwidth anyway as flash encoders are bad at multi-code use.. opening one site ie one site firefox one site chrome it helps as it is 3 independent flash , but not all girls knows or wants.

So a correction: real HD will be an usable technology not when it will work sending video to 1 site, but when it will work sending it in 4 or 5 sites at same time

**lucas131** · 09-18-2012, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by MaDalton

http://www.flatfeecams.com/live/index.html via www.cashdorado.com

multi angle, 3d, wow looks good!

**Gozarian** · 09-18-2012, 08:34 AM

we have i5 quads 4gb ram and ssd's with 30MBps upload fiber. we tested sony cams with hdmi connection and logitech 910 and 920 cams and every codec know to man with only 4 sites open using super webcam as the split (a couple sites dont seem to like the new version of split cam). with the sony setup pc usage was +90%, the 920's around 90% and the 910's at 86%. Still tinkering but these loads on the PC cant be sustained longterm. so many capture cards available but the good stuff is far too pricey when you buy stuff in quantities of 8.

I do know a guy that has rewritten ALL the broadcaster software and he claims his PC usage in in the 50-60% range with the rewrites.

If you got any ideas hit me up, please.

Yes many studios mandate girls work multiple sites but damn 13 wtf those girls must have mush for brains after a couple hours online. We only let them use 4 simultaneously or the customer begins to be negelected.

**Gozarian** · 09-18-2012, 08:54 AM

[QUOTE=lucas131;19196506]multi angle, 3d, wow looks good!

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2 screencaps from 5 mins ago, notice any difference?

http://www.mediafire.com/?m187cdusmpadef0
flatratecams

http://www.mediafire.com/?wh1sbr56oaed71u
xlove logitech 910, i5 quad split to 5 sites

**adultmobile** · 09-18-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by Gozarian

Yes many studios mandate girls work multiple sites but damn 13 wtf those girls must have mush for brains after a couple hours online. We only let them use 4 simultaneously or the customer begins to be negelected.

I am amazed too but that's how's going

About the splitter, part of the traffic it could be taken by it, try change splitters for example webcamsplitter, and see if any difference:

http://very-soft.com/product/webcamsplitter

Other advises are to use one site with firefox, one with explorer and one with chrome (but after they fix the greenish color bug in next revision), since these are indepednent flash versions and may use the multi cores better this way. Opera and safari share with firefox.
Flash 11.4 latest seems to use multi-core better.. the issue it is if you have 4 or 8 cores then flash uses one only, it will slow down when 25% of pc as 25% is 100% of 1/4 of your cpu i.e. one core filled and dumb encoder don't use the other ones.

PS: We have also an "offline, for appointment only" site, chatgf.com . On this one the girl must not (and can not) have free chat, simply sets her status "online" in a button, and only if someone want to private her, she gets a beep then to accept and open the chat. Guys can see only a recorded video and photos of her... This is also popular to girls as it is not eating any cpu, bandwidth or "model chat brain" while waiting for a private.. girl click "I am online" and forgets the page there until anyone buy a private. This system it was popular in the past esp. europe, and it is available as option in most sites, but members are too much used to free chat with even free nude and play, to rely on "offline" sites only anymore

**Umbalabob** · 09-18-2012, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by hony

Email failed:

Hi that is weird

Send it to me directly: [email protected] and I will take care or you

**hony** · 09-18-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Umbalabob

Hi that is weird

Send it to me directly: [email protected] and I will take care or you

Email sent and no bounce on this one....

**Umbalabob** · 09-19-2012, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by hony

Email sent and no bounce on this one....

High Five

yeah I received it and sent you a mail. Waiting for your testaccount and a PDF with all features and get back to you with this stuff.

**Dave-U** · 09-20-2012, 02:33 AM

Added you on ICQ

**AlexFS** · 09-20-2012, 02:36 AM

Originally posted by TheSwed

I guess they dont like Pattaya

Who doesn't like Pattaya, come on now

**Umbalabob** · 09-20-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by AlexFS

Who doesn't like Pattaya, come on now

My Ex GF didn´t like the holiday with me there

But I wasn´t there for fucking, only Muay Thai Training, but really crazy city.

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