The free porn model is here to stay.

Maybe as many as 95% earning off the "porn traffic" model. don't spend a penny to produce the content they must have. To make a dime.

There's nothing more micro than free.

OK let's go with your idea. 30 days for how much?

Let's say $10.

Now figure all other costs are fixed, so the site now needs a much larger chunk of the $10 or 3xmore sign ups.

$10 a month and all the risks associated with paying or free?

The problem isn't only that free is free. It's better than paying for it. Unless you absolutely can't have anything but HD of a particular porn site and no one has pirated it.

The sky is blue.

Google doesn't give away maps in order to sell maps. They don't give away gmail in other to sell gmail. Facebook isn't free because they are trying to sell Facebook. Facebook is bringing in $4.8 billion giving stuff away, and it isn't by selling profiles or porn.

It's all just too much for him to wrap his little head around.

I was thinking more along the lines of $5 per full, HD movie. Maybe $3 SD. Hell, even $1 bargain bin movies. They buy 10 movies and they've already paid more than what they would have with a membership and you get a ton more people buying single movies here and there that may have never considered a membership.

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19013528&postcount=329

I high lighted the flaw.

In regards to what Paul has to say...

The ship is sinking...

Some people stay in because like you mentioned in another thread some affiliates have been doing nothing else for 10-15 years, how do you fill that employment gap and what else do you do. Wherever I've been, adult is almost universally frowned upon, good bar talk but in most professional settings doesn't work. I know when people would ask what I did online I'd have to have a bogus mainstream front to cover any porn related ventures.

Most people can argue that you just need to work harder, well with so many hours in the day and with the ability to only give away so much free porn (there are traffic building ideas) but beyond selling porn for any amount of what it once was forget about it.

There aren't many of you that can afford to sit on their ass like you and reality eventually hits. Some of the makers of technology on here, though smart, lack true understanding of marketing or a true discernment for economics such as Paul.
I just wonder how lonely you may be on boards like this when the inevitable catches up to most people on here.

I think you underestimate how many people are willing to pay for quality over quantity. It's just a matter of finding their price point.

Free porn effects everyone.

I hear models doing boy/girl, bj, solo, and 300 stills for $400. These aren't ugly models either. It's not hard to do this anymore.

Free porn has effected the bottomline enough where producers scheme models to work for next to nothing. i.e. a gangbang for $200, taking a girl that doesn't have much and moving her around because you threaten to abandon her (in a state 2000 miles from home) if she doesn't keep producing scenes for free.

I know producers that got male actors (schmucks of the street) to pay $50-100 a piece for a gangbang for some teen girl. Don't ever do this as it can come back to haunt you (pandering charges I believe).

Konrad's business thrives on the free porn, How much can you give away with unlimited domain licenses, as much as you want!!!!!!!!!
Don't take that as an attack.

Raymor, you better start taking strongbox/throttlebox/clonebox more mainstream. As the cultural lag of awareness of diminished returns in porn becomes more commonplace in people many less producers will be there to buy. You've got time.
You were bitching the other day about making serious bucks, well the killing is over in porn.

Did someone say free?

If you read Paul's posts more closely instead of just trying to increase your post count, most producers (or aspiring ones) don't have the pockets to invest, learn, and extended patients to do something like that.

Having a community where you talk to people and produce movies, that's a possibility. I know a lot of niche message board communities that make ok money with a close niche bunch. But the paysite without accountant scrutiny and market savvy is no more.

I know a well known producer that shoots with all the agencies in LA, he gets the girls for their first scene (1/3 to 1/2 the girls) and he's still in the red after 2 years.
$150 for a male actor, $300 for model (includes agency fee) plus the dedicated server and his editor and webmaster.

The low margins have turned people into scumbags, partly because they can't help it.

I had a few webmasters contacting me because I know how to get a lot of proprietary software up and running without the licensing fees. Bothers me.

Thanks, I'll reconsider my perspective. I'm sorry if I offended you.

Most here would never get a real job in marketing online or offline. They have the same chance as I would getting a real job as a photographer. Their field of experience is very limited to driving traffic to porn sites.

My marketing experience comes from years of selling, market stall, clothing shops, office furniture and porn offline, online direct and indirect. I've adapted and learned that you can't compare chickens and cows let alone apples and oranges. Selling off a market stall is totally different to selling the very same clothing to a shop. Because the buyers needs are totally different. AND that is selling is rule number one. Understand your buyers needs. With porn it's to rub one out. Then get back to watching the TV or similar.

The odds on him needing something else are low, very low. We only have to look at traffic conversion off a Tube and compare it to traffic conversions off a TGP to understand that. Giving him more porn to satisfy his need so you might stumble over someone who needs more. Isn't selling. Unless the girl on the check out at Walmart is selling.

http://wm.idolbucks.com/?nats=NTg5NjoxMjo0,0,0,0,0 do you own this site or just hoping to get a 5% referral fee?

Over estimating a buyers willingness to pay and sinking a lot of money into it, is a fast track to bankruptcy.