The free porn model is here to stay.

Taking time out to make a cup of tea I thought longer on Mr Pheer's model.

Yes it clearly works. Yet to make it work well and make a living from it, it requires one very essential element. Content. Traffic is cheap and to be found. Content isn't. It will cost money.

Either the money of the producer and he will expect sales in return, or investment in buying content and this is the best model. See signature.

Then the next steps are a site, tube script, design, sponsors and traffic.

Adopting this model is the same as Google's model. giving away one thing to sell another. Targeting the advertising in relationship to the porn being looked for. so if the guy wants teen porn, offer him teen dating or webcam ad so on.

Giving away free recorded porn to sell porn is not what Raymor meant and I'm sure he knows that isn't working today.

Now can the recorded industry give away free dating and webcams to sell recorded porn or damage those businesses? Doubt it.

This man adapts by the hour. He was telling us recently he doesn't need them to buy something. This is the kind of wisdom coming from a porn guru who runs an empire of businesses. We should all listen to him about selling something to a member after he's become a member. Pure genius insight like this should not be missed.

ratios mean fuck all if you have volume... ask walmart..

So you seriously think that a user has no value unless they pay you a modest subscription fee ? No wonder you're retired.

How's your tube project going Paul?

Traffic is easy, a tube script is cheap, and design is a piece of piss, as you know wiht your awesome sites.

So the only thing missing is content, something you have tons of.

So where is PaulMarkhamTube?

It is exactly the reason McDonald's went with the dollar hamburger. The mainstream food equivalent of free porn. Doubled their income stream. Free is good.

Can u put a sock in it already. Who gives a fuck what u say with your magic joins. Idiot

Youtube is turning a profit now?

About time. I thought they were losing millions. Just last year I read Google was still trying to find a way to make it profitable.

You are wasting your time talking to peddlers/chancers who throw as much shit up the wall as they can, hoping some of it will stick.

None of them pay models/whores or pay to produce the content that they give away for free.

I want to stab myself in the eye....

Just sayin.

Shhhhh, no common sense allowed in Markham threads.

I don't see why micro payments would kill the affiliate model.
A surfer would likely actually spend more over time with cheaper, a la carte style pricing than with a big, expensive memberships. Not to mention you're probably going to having more people willing to fork out a few bucks than sign up for a $50 membership.
Affiliates would still be getting their revshare from that and probably making more overall as would program owners

QFT!!!

go paul!

How is your hosted Tube doing these days?

So let's look at this solution.

If a site 20 million people coming to it every day, it can sell the traffic at say $3 per 1,000.

20,000,000 and 1-50 click on an advert. 400,000 = $1,200 a day.

Now deduct the cost to run the tube and getting 20 million surfers.

I think I got the figures right. Argue about the ratios, the principal is the same.