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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52943

    #16
    Originally posted by nextri
    It's not gonna change. Any new law that will help fight it, will only increase the amount of piracy going on. Adapt or die, there are plenty of ways to make money from "free porn".. Some companies are blooming, and it's not because they are running illegal tube sites, or are giving away the content for free. 10 years ago, when the online porn business was allegedly so much better, the amount of people with access to a high speed internet connection was probably 20% of what is is today, if not less. High speed internet is becoming available to new market every day, and new payment options to bill in new countries are emerging. There is a lot more money being spent in total on porn today, than there were 10 years ago, it's just reaching different pockets. Those who didn't adapt, are crying about it before deciding to die instead.
    Saying There is a lot more money being spent in total on porn today, than there were 10 years ago. is foolish I can prove you wrong in minutes. Include offline and make a case to show us. Offline sales moved to online and this killed offline as I knew it. Today there's nothing of offline left to kill. so the killing of sales is online.

    Free porn is here to stay. It will kill sales.

    The question now is how to adapt, can we adapt and is adaptation going to be profitable.

    1. Open a Tube and/or sell traffic to what's left.
    2. Promote Webcam and Dating, until they go free.
    3. Produce porn that's do great people have to buy it.
    4. Retire.
    5. Move to mainstream.
    6. Get a real job.
    7. Sell to the new countries, India, China, Ghana etc.
    8. Got any better ideas?

    Nextri the last question was for you. Can you explain more about the new countries part. The actual new countries we're meant to sell to. Because with the coming crisis of the Euro, some of the old countries might not have as much to spend on porn.



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    • AdultKing
      Raise Your Weapon
      • Jun 2003
      • 15601

      #17
      What makes you think the only way to monetize a user is to make them pay cash for access ?

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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52943

        #18
        Originally posted by AdultKing
        What makes you think the only way to monetize a user is to make them pay cash for access ?
        What makes you think somewhere 1-1,000 of users doesn't have to spend money to monetise him?

        You can sell/send traffic to free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites.

        But somewhere someone has to get some cash out of them.

        How do you run your empire with your logic?



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        • Mr Pheer
          So Fucking Banned
          • Dec 2002
          • 22083

          #19
          How to make money on the internet in three simple steps:

          1. Post all the free porn that you possibly can, to attract as many freeloading surfers as possible.

          2. Put up geo-targeted webcam and dating ads.

          3. Profit!!

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          • DamianJ
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2006
            • 15808

            #20
            Originally posted by Tijuana_Tom
            Paul that picture is soo fucking creepy holy jesus christ. how do you make 2 girls kissing look creepy?
            It's a gift he has.

            I think if you couple together the marriage of a creepy dirty old man that likes to look at naked young girls and cop a feel when he can, with a scared, desperate eastern european girl solely doing it for the money, you get PM content.

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            • DamianJ
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2006
              • 15808

              #21
              Originally posted by Paul Markham
              Saying There is a lot more money being spent in total on porn today, than there were 10 years ago. is foolish I can prove you wrong in minutes. Include offline and make a case to show us.
              Go on then. And try to not just pull figures out of your arsehole.

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              • AdultKing
                Raise Your Weapon
                • Jun 2003
                • 15601

                #22
                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                What makes you think somewhere 1-1,000 of users doesn't have to spend money to monetise him?

                You can sell/send traffic to free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites.

                But somewhere someone has to get some cash out of them.

                How do you run your empire with your logic?
                You're not really that bright are you Paul ? If that's your demonstration of lateral thinking then it's no wonder you're posting threads like this. You just don't get it.

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                • CurrentlySober
                  Too lazy to wipe my ass
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 38938

                  #23
                  Can someone send this 'Free Porn Model' over to me please?

                  Every time I book and shoot a porn model, they usually asked to be paid at the end of the shoot...

                  TIA


                  👁️ 👍️ 💩

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                  • raymor
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3745

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    What makes you think somewhere 1-1,000 of users doesn't have to spend money to monetise him?

                    You can sell/send traffic to free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites and they can sell/send traffic to more free sites.

                    But somewhere someone has to get some cash out of them.

                    How do you run your empire with your logic?
                    Last year Google made $38 billion giving stuff away, without selling porn or dating. Youtube made a billion while greatly reducing the amount of pirated content they have.
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                    • DamianJ
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 15808

                      #25
                      Originally posted by raymor
                      Youtube brought in a billion dollars last year while greatly reducing the amount of pirated content they have, and without selling porn or dating.
                      Don't let pesky facts get in the way of a Markham rant!

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                      • AdultKing
                        Raise Your Weapon
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 15601

                        #26
                        Originally posted by DamianJ
                        Don't let pesky facts get in the way of a Markham rant!
                        He assumes when we talk about free porn we mean pirated porn. He just can't think outside his little box.

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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52943

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                          How to make money on the internet in three simple steps:

                          1. Post all the free porn that you possibly can, to attract as many freeloading surfers as possible.

                          2. Put up geo-targeted webcam and dating ads.

                          3. Profit!!
                          Yes this will still work and why free porn is here to stay. Until webcams go the MFC route and surfers realise Lots Of Fish is better value. Then what?

                          The problem isn't that free porn is free. It's that on so many levels it's better than paying for porn. Leaving this.

                          The question now is how to adapt, can we adapt and is adaptation going to be profitable.

                          How can the porn industry adapt to a model where paying for porn is better than getting it for free. Then can we do it and do it profitably? I don't know and obviously few do. Otherwise they would be doing it.

                          Until then your model is the best.



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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52943

                            #28
                            Originally posted by raymor
                            Last year Google made $38 billion giving stuff away, without selling porn or dating. Youtube made a billion while greatly reducing the amount of pirated content they have.
                            I know you don't think that applies to porn sites giving away porn to sell porn. You're far too clever for that.

                            Originally posted by AdultKing
                            He assumes when we talk about free porn we mean pirated porn. He just can't think outside his little box.
                            I think all free porn.
                            Last edited by Paul Markham; 06-19-2012, 05:23 AM.



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                            • DamianJ
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 15808

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                              I think
                              Prove it.

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                              • AdultKing
                                Raise Your Weapon
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 15601

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Paul Markham

                                The question now is how to adapt, can we adapt and is adaptation going to be profitable.
                                That might be the question for you, some people have started to work it out and are busy implementing ideas.

                                Users have value above and beyond the initial subscription you might get out of them.

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