It's all good in the end
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CCBill was going to be my update for tomorrow....I am glad to be able to trash that column.
Thank you CCBill
Good move.Mike South
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I am very glad that I can once again highly recommend CCBill.For historical display only. This information is not current:
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I agree, I'm also a little confused by this quote ....."CCBill relied on the ability of file locker websites to actively monitor incoming uploads from external sources"
I thought file lockers hid behind the fact they didn't monitor user uploads?
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What a file locker will represent to a billing company is different from what they will tell their users.
They say to billing companies "Oh it's ok we'll make sure there's nothing bad"
They say to users "Come and upload anything you like we wont stop you"
They actually don't interfere with content unless forced to by DMCA or other legal means.Comment
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I was under the impression that no uploads were monitored in order to not be liable for what is uploaded. And yet ccbill states they relied on file lockers to monitor what is uploaded. ???What a file locker will represent to a billing company is different from what they will tell their users.
They say to billing companies "Oh it's ok we'll make sure there's nothing bad"
They say to users "Come and upload anything you like we wont stop you"
They actually don't interfere with content unless forced to by DMCA or other legal means.
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Drop it... CCBill did good. So many other things to focus attention on now, remember this one?:
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Just trying to understand something that doesn't make sense to me ......... Goodnight.
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This is good news and shows what we can do when we act as one. Now the war moves to a new battle ground Paypal. We can concentrate our efforts on them more.Awesome!
The fight has just begun...
Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.
Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

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1 more happy CCbill client.
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What CCBill is saying is that the Filelockers made representations to them that there would be nothing bad uploaded or left on their Filelockers. However as it's turned out that wasn't true.Comment
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We need to do what we can to support ccBill in this too, because by making a principled decision they have stepped away from some money (I'm sure not all File Locker business is illegal, even though many are apparently havens for pirated content).
What does ccBill suggest we can do to ensure that companies aiding and abetting illegal content come to see that it is no longer in their best business/financial interest to continue doing business with companies that are serving as a front for and profiting from cp/illegal/stolen content.
PayPal made a deliberate decision to quit being an ally of the legal and legitimate adult industry a long time ago. It makes a pornographer blush looking at the slime that PayPal is in bed with and making money off of currently.
PayBack PayPal?

As I recall didn't the slimy guy's at Mansef that Fabian Thylmann supposedly paid millions to, use some of their Manwin money to become File Locker kings? Anyone know the name of their File Locker and how legit it is (and who their other "partners" are)?
Time to make a list and check it twice...
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To our friends and colleagues:
CCBILL HAS DISCONTINUED ITS PROCESSING RELATIONSHIPS WITH FILE LOCKER WEBSITES.
Effective immediately, CCBill has discontinued processing for all file locker websites. While CCBill continues to back the business models of our client base without bias, it has been made aware of multiple instances involving content residing on various client websites which violate our Acceptable Use Policy (AUP).
Due to the sensitivity of the matter, CCBill conducted an exhaustive internal investigation with the goal of determining the validity of claims concerning the breach of our AUP. Following the investigation, CCBill decided it can no longer provide transaction services to businesses operating a file locker model.
From inception, CCBill relied on the ability of file locker websites to actively monitor incoming uploads from external sources and immediately remove any illicit files thereafter identified. It has become clear that such a task is both difficult for website operators to accomplish and nearly impossible for CCBill to verify.
CCBill would like to thank those individuals who have provided examples of content existing on file locker websites which is in violation of our AUP. We are all part of this community and we believe it is our collective responsibility to maintain core values and ethics within the adult marketplace. CCBill has, and always will maintain its high standards in dealing with copyright infringement, illegal content and all aspects of our AUP.
CCBill holds client privacy in the highest regard, and under no circumstance will we discuss specific details related to any previous or current client relationship. We respectfully ask for consideration of these policies, and thus please do not ask us to betray this trust.
Gary Jackson
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Well done for shaming them into doing this ADG.Awesome!
The fight has just begun...
Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.
Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

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Excellent decision by CCBill to end the cannibalization of its core market by halting payment processes that enrich those that employ a business model designed to facilitate theft. Bravo CCBill.Awesome!
The fight has just begun...
Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.
Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

ADG
However, even if producers/creators of content have things patented, trademarked, copyrighted, cloaked in multiple layers of secrecy and watermarks, pirates can and will duplicate IP by stealing. Pirates, despite their professed altruism, pilfer the work of others for one reason; profit.
Extinguishing their ability to profit needs to be a concerted and forceful effort that exhibits ferocity and toughness to be successful.
Adult producers need to hoist a few trophies up the flag pole their ship to signify the hazards of IP piracy.Comment
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SquirtIt with all respect you're totally out of line. Leon has been doing a great thing in the benefit of all content producers including you, after you attacked him he kept respectful towards you and he showed you how CCBill was processing for a site that violates your copyrights but you continue your crusade against him. What is wrong with you man?Comment
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Great decision. This is going to be a milestone, in a few years from now we'll look back at how CCBill was the first one that made a decision and announcement like this.
Let's hope that Visa, MasterCard and PayPal will be next.Comment
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Good news !!

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We made several infringement reports to PayPal but unfortunately nothing really materializedComment
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well done. ccbill rock!
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You really are clueless. These sites are businesses with considerable overheads. They exist to make a profit. Cut off the money supply and they will cease to exist.
Much more work to be done, but keep the pressure on visa, MasterCard, and PayPal and these places will find it very difficult to survive.
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I don't think you're happy enuf...
Given the views in the other threads over a number of days, it would be good to sticky this thread, perhaps through the weekend, to ensure that the word gets disseminated.

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Hardly,this worked only because ccbill rely on adult industry and to do action was enough to post on boards,for other problematic entities it will need much more work.Awesome!
The fight has just begun...
Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.
Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

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Bingo...

the rest of you guys are kissing on an ass that just took a shit in your mouth... good luck brushing your teethComment
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I don't think it's kissing ass to be happy with their decision.
No doubt about it, they fucked up big time. It was an epic fuck up. But they un-fucked themselves. They can't undo what was done, but late is better than never.Comment
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Until the next time they are dicovered to be processing for dodgy sites.
It's happened with CCBill before and I guess it could easily happen again.
They didn't learn enough from previous exposure, why is this time any different?Sharleen Spiteri - 1989 - In The AssComment
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both QFT, damage control.
imho, CCBill will wait until this blows over then it's back to business.New niche?

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Paypal is stubborn, but if you keep hammering them with proper evidence of bad things they are processing, they have bent in the past.
Just got to keep pressuring on the Visa/MC side for those companies processing for this crap. That's the only real leverage to get some of them to back down.XXXRewards - Karups - Boyfun - Jawked. Paying on time since 1997. Contact me at brent [at] xxxrewards.comComment
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Awesome. How do we get in touch with Paypal now?Comment
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