Any Atheists in the House?

Not much thought given there.

That's pretty much why I am not convinced. The whole idea of a god was started by religions. It's only by chance that we exist in a time with different religions. If we were living, say 100,000 years ago when all we worried about was surviving and not worshiping, would we be debating this? I don't think so. I think the whole idea of a god is just a trend that's been going on since religion has been around. Why in the billion years that life has existed on this planet is god suddenly a topic in the past 10k years?

donny, you need a Walter in your life

Damn, dude are you still trying to make people believe in mythology? I have to give you credit. If he is true you deserve a nice fat reward, like a holy blowjob or something LOL

What makes you think God was created by religion, rather than religions evolving from a belief in God. Every credible account I've read indicates the concept of God predates any organized religion. Do you have sources to back up your claim?

one of the stupidest things i have read.

Let me start off where I started off and left off yesterday. It doesn't really matter if there is a God or not (though I don't believe in one) He is irrevelant in your daily life. the bible says you can't understand his ways and common logic would tell you that he can't favor you over somebody else even if he wanted to.

so what is the actual point to believing in him at all? What is the benefit? If you think he is going to favor you cause you believe in him, than your even more delusional than just believing in him.

so again, he is irrelevant to anybody's existence even if by some far fetched chance he does exist

u all r gonna burn in hell

I own www.loljesus.com

N'ff said?

Donny says - we were created by a force not of this earth.

Johnnyboi says - we were created by aliens.

They actually think they are disagreeing with each other.

Admins and mods, can we please get a new section for the forum just for Donny and Johnnyboi ?

Actually Mitt Romney and Dianetics believe this too (the alien thing I mean) so maybe they will chime in if you create a new section LOL

Actually I think Donny is just trying to justify a higher power, but wants to make it into something it isn't.

Just my opinion of course from what he's been saying

Not much thought given to your post either.

Speaks volumes for your belief in the sky fairy.

yes we were created by an advanced civilization from another planet. we are to them what free range cattle are to us. One day they will return to harvest us....Only to find that the lean meat they were expecting is now mostly fat ass

Stop talking that way, Mitt. You're running for president for "someone's" sake!

You havnt been on gfy long enough then

Amazing how GFY have such theme of Gof time to time. I will post, sure it will be more read than if I talk of our cam program.

God and evolution don't conflict? It depends how back you allow to go as evolutions roots - if back to just god create bacteria (not bacteria evolved from god) up to monkey up to humans ok, buf if back to infinite, there is no god, as we would be better (an evolution of) god, so we are god too (evolved so smarter than) which make no sense, as god must have created at some point, we can't be an evolution from god as a start. Without at least one creation you have no god.

Let's assume we're too idiot to understand why God does things and how does that. Let's even assume that even if we get the whole solution and explanation of this in English language, we can't understand the same so we are limited. If you took a smart guy in 1800 year and show him how to use facebook on a smart phone he would have not understood easily, today we have every kid using that, so this is quite relative to the information you got too, not just limit of human brain hardware, but let' say we can't even understand if explained the correct story about God, creation and after life stuff.

So today the most advanced stuff we know it is quantum phisics for the small, and space telescope for the cosmological big. There is no more really doubts our current universe originated some 13 billion years ago as big bang event, it include origination of "time" dimension so to tell what there was before it make no sense as a division by zero, also same silly question it is what there was outside as space dimension not yet created (still expanding now at speed of light or so - there's nothing yet where not reached).
I will make it short, people of science quite understood it all from first seconds after big bang up to today, it include stars created various chemical elements by burning helium and such, then from first life up to humans this should be quite clear, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_evolution

Debated only by some religious people really, it is from no life to life, so ok we had planet earth 4.6 billion year ago then after less then a billion year hey we got simple cells, are these coming from space? Is that God who put these there?
Actually quamtum mechanics shows that the stuff it is not stable, it sort of move and vibrate always, and this can cause infinite combinations of elements - this does not requires god.
So let's say the first cell atoms combinatin it is like have accidentally thrown letters in air and these fall in ground typing "God exists and it is communicating with you now". Seeing this event, 99% of humans would think this is a miracle and Got exists, but the 1% who is scientist will not believe the same. In fact consider how many combinations of stuff can happen in a billion of years for the mass of Earth, you can win lottery a few tims for sure, and this includes the combination that works and starts a lifeform. Just because the other trillion of trillion of combinations that does not start a lifeform was also happened and guess what, you forgot of all of them, and just focus on this one lottery win. This shows how the human brain is totally unreliable for science and math, even a cell phone can bear any human mathematician winner of gold medal, so let's not think we're smart at first.

Also there's a few more dimensions and universes, so is there one God per universe or what. The thing it is quite funny and Matrix movie it is perhaps more likely than God exists.

I don't "favor one over the other". Theistic evolution says evolution is the process God used to create.

Sorry, I can't respond to this because Google Translate failed to put it into English for me.

I have no problem with people believe in God that actually believe in that theory for real, but no one ever does. It's just another fight and some cop out to make them feel logical.

Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Seems legit to me. Why do you people have such a hard time believing?

There are many who believe this way. Google "theistic evolution". Even the Pope doesn't rule it out, and he represents more than a billion Catholics.

But the pope also thinks pedophiles are just priests trying to get through a day, right?

How cliche. Okay, if it's cliches you want (that don't get things right), here's another one for ya:

What's the point? What's the point of any academic endeavor? What's the point of pursuing any truth at all? What's the point of discovery?

You're getting boring now, same shit over and over, "i dont understand it so god created it period" <plugs ears and holds breath in protest>. Two things I do know. 1 i dont know how to build a hadron collider. 2. just because I dont understand how to build a hadron collider, doesnt mean some all powerful cloud fairy invented it.

The bible has given humanity:
*The earth is flat
*Blue shit in the sky is water
*Firmament.. you know that solid dome protecting earth that defies gravity

Science has given humanity:
little stupid things like
*space flight
*nanotech
*taking a cell and turning it into something so complex only a god could make it, like say a goat..... hrm, wait a fuckin second here, i thought only god could create life? Something's not right with your complexity premise.

You're making assumptions again, and your assumptions aren't even accurate. Congrats on your ignorance.

Most academic endeavors have at the very least the idea of reaching some type of tangible results. You can call them whatever you want but someone is usually proving something that is tangible, not hypothetical. But whatever makes your life feel better of course - that is what religion is really about.

On the nose. Religion is the panacea of the masses. The mindless cultish, I need to believe types.

Really? One word (to begin with): Philosophy

Why does the bible say the earth is flat? You would think that would be something that the entity you claim made it would know? Thats not exactly a small fuck up there.

that's what I was thinking too

I'm curious...

If I watch evil in a movie and I don't change the channel and then try to stop the producers of the movie from creating evil, does that mean I support evil and therefore don't exist?

If I build a website for someone and then turn it over to them and they slowly change things, adapt it, and possibly destroy it, does it mean I did not care when I created it and I did something intrinsically wrong since I never intended to do the day to day maintenance?

If I don't agree with your beliefs in unicorns, aliens, ghosts, or God does that mean my beliefs must be wrong or that within the almost unlimited possibilities which exist throughout space and time that they could not, did not, will not, or do not currently exist?

Has science ever stood firmly behind an idea for years, decades, or centuries and then discovered they were wrong?

Have religions changed over time to conform to the standards of the time and to keep their followers in line with the current needs of the Church?

I choose to believe in an all encompassing intelligence/energy/power which permeates throughout everything but is no more involved in our individuals thoughts, lives, and problems than we are involved with that blood cell which just circulated through your big toe...you mean you didn't notice it? Can I prove this all encompassing power exists? Heck no...

Then the last two questions that really plague me...before the Big Bang..what existed? Did it bang before?

I am not a big supporter of organized religion, because I feel it misses the point severely. I am a firm believer in scientific discovery and enjoy the debates about how the universe works, started, etc...but in the end..I'll either learn the answers when I die, or I won't..until then ROCK ON!

I can't be atheist... god is in my pants...

LOL, where abouts?

If you are going to explain our existence with the god theory then you MUST explain who or what created god. Your whole argument for our existence is based on a concept that by your own admittance cannot be explained and is therefore no explanation at all. It is still an argument of infinite regress. If you cannot explain the origins of god then you have to give up on crediting god with our existence and just admit that we simply do not know. Why must you insist on explaining one mysterious and incredible concept with something else that is even more mysterious and incredible?

Hey Donny, why do you think god made people homosexual whilst at the same time saying homosexuals are bad?

Was it all just a joke?

Yes the ex-SS Pope thinks its a conspiracy of the anti Catholic forces. No one really got sexually abused by celibate priests.

Actually, it's the reverse. Constantine struck a "great compromise" with the Early Church--stuff like an eternally burning hell that is burning right now, an immortal soul, idolatry (cloaked as praying to the saints), Sunday worship a celibate priesthood, sinless saints, saintly intercession, Mother Mary as intercessor, an ANGRY GOD, infallible popes (whose number is 666 interestingly enough SEE HERE), and a whole host of other changes to early Christianity which was based on decentralized churches who worshiped on the Sabbath and kept dietary laws. The linchpin of all this is MAN and his works became the center of salvation not Grace through faith. It would take many deaths by burning at the stake and many religious wars for that truth to come out...

Lots of what is laughable about "Christianity" now is due to this apostasy/compromise.

In essence, the Roman "church" turned Faith into a superstition. No wonder many Catholics (I was once an RC) become atheists....

That's why if you are Catholic (like I was) the video would be ROTFLMAO funny. However, if you've done your research, you can feel sorry for Carlin cuz of the stuff he was fed by the "Church"

@ Donny - who created the God that created us ?

@ Johnnyboi - who created the Aliens that created us ?

@ God - why did you create Donny and Johnnyboi, is this really a false flag argument to cover up your real motives ?

@ GideonGallbladder - would DMCA work in this thread or would God claim safe harbour ?

@ DamianJ - is Gary allowed a horse in this race ?

@ DvTimes - link ?

@ Paul Markham - does God dictate your ridiculous threads about the demise of porn ?

@ Nathan - did Manwin buy God yet ?

@ All of you Jesus freaks - PICS OR IT DID NOT HAPPEN !

Homosexuality was labeled as an abomination in the Old Testament. Other things that were labeled the same:

-Eating Shellfish
-Paying high interest rates
-Getting remarried
-Prideful arrogance
-Hiring a prostitute
-Not Helping the poor
-Adultery

Etc, etc.

Lots of things are called abominations. Some people just choose their "pet abominations" to focus on. Homosexuality happens to be one of those. There are reasons God asked certain things to be avoided. Obviously, homosexuals can't fulfill the whole "be fruitful and multiply" command. But that particular "sin" is no more offensive to God than the others listed. You won't ever see me holding a sign telling homosexuals that God hates them, 'cause if that was true I'd have to hold another sign pointing at me, too. From a Christian view: God hates sin, Jesus paid for all sins (past, present and future). We choose whether or not to accept his payment made on our behalf.

Here I fixed it for ya

So you worship and support a god that hates homosexuals and promotes slavery.

You're a joke and so is your belief.

You're not paying attention. God doesn't hate homosexuals.

You, too, aren't paying attention. I've been owning my wrongs for many years now. I've shared the things I've done in front of literally millions. I accept the blame for what I've done wrong. But I also realize I can't possibly "pay" for it, which is where the Jesus payment comes into play.

Just one simple question.
Who created god if he exists ?

Sorry but it falls into the same category as "Santa Claus". All man made up.

Anyways, once you start learning about the universe. Nothing stands. See sig.

I notice how you you avoid the slavery claim.

SLAVERY: http://www.godisimaginary.com/i13.htm

YOUR GOD WANTS TO MURDER: http://www.godisimaginary.com/i22.htm

These are direct quotes from YOUR bible.

Then why does the church denounce gay marriage but turn a blind eye to the hundreds if not thousands of pedo priests?