Using Zango to steal Ccbill join form traffic. What can we do about this?

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  • will76
    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
    • May 2003
    • 18037

    #101
    Originally posted by Wiseman
    Ok well It's family time. But Affiliate will be banned asap. And for those claiming xxxpass isnt in our program you are very wrong. ITs in there you just have to request it. More to come


    Originally posted by will76
    so how will Quickbuck respond:

    1. no response just ignore and hope it goes away (aka SexSearch Approach)

    2. come in here and insult people and say "its legal" and say a lot of stupid shit (aka Lars approach).

    3. Blame it on a bad affiliate (industry default response)

    ding ding we have a winner. #3 blamed the affiliate.


    I hope ccbill sues, if they subpenaed your records you would have to show proof it was an affiliate other then us just having to take your word for it.
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    • fuzebox
      making it rain
      • Oct 2003
      • 22365

      #102
      Originally posted by Wiseman
      Ok well It's family time. But Affiliate will be banned asap. And for those claiming xxxpass isnt in our program you are very wrong. ITs in there you just have to request it. More to come
      There's no way for a random affiliate to send directly to your merchant page unless you set up a redirect for him though...

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      • Jace
        FBOP Class Of 2013
        • Jan 2004
        • 35562

        #103
        Originally posted by fuzebox
        There's no way for a random affiliate to send directly to your merchant page unless you set up a redirect for him though...
        oh snap!

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        • xxxice
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2002
          • 5042

          #104
          U didn't notice this "affiliate" before today?

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          • xclusive
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Apr 2004
            • 35218

            #105

            I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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            • thonglife
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2004
              • 1566

              #106
              That's total fucking bullshit. I installed zango when all this went down. I then went to one of my own free sites and clicked the very first link I saw which happened to be a Raging Bucks NATS link. I clicked through to the join page, filled in the information for user details and clicked "Join Now" to passthrough to Epoch. The join page came up only to be poped completely over with your shit. You got caught and just now turned the shit off.. because it's not doing it now.

              See sig asshole.. see sig.

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              • Jace
                FBOP Class Of 2013
                • Jan 2004
                • 35562

                #107
                Originally posted by thonglife
                That's total fucking bullshit. I installed zango when all this went down. I then went to one of my own free sites and clicked the very first link I saw which happened to be a Raging Bucks NATS link. I clicked through to the join page, filled in the information for user details and clicked "Join Now" to passthrough to Epoch. The join page came up only to be poped completely over with your shit. You got caught and just now turned the shit off.. because it's not doing it now.

                See sig asshole.. see sig.
                or maybe their affiliate just happened to be right next to the phone when they called and instantly turned it all off

                ROFL..yeah, right

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                • Mutt
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 34431

                  #108
                  oh yeah the 'rogue affiliate' thing is really going to work in 2007

                  sell stupid someplace else we're all stocked up here.
                  I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                  • Thomas N
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 973

                    #109
                    Guys, I have banned the account. Any time you guys find something like this, email it to me [email protected] and I can handle it fast. I would have resolved this faster had I not been at a family outing.

                    Heading back out into the nice weather.

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                    • fuzebox
                      making it rain
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 22365

                      #110
                      I'm also curious, don't a lot of sales with 0 clicks set off your fraud detection tools?

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                      • 2012
                        So Fucking What
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 17189

                        #111
                        best host: Webair | best sponsor: Kink | best coder: 688218966 | Go Fuck Yourself

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                        • thonglife
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 1566

                          #112
                          Hey Fallguy.. I am not and never will be an affiliate of QuickSteal. Perhaps you can explain

                          That's total fucking bullshit. I installed zango when all this went down. I then went to one of my own free sites and clicked the very first link I saw which happened to be a Raging Bucks NATS link. I clicked through to the join page, filled in the information for user details and clicked "Join Now" to passthrough to Epoch. The join page came up only to be poped completely over with your shit. You got caught and just now turned the shit off.. because it's not doing it now.
                          So are you saying you have an affiliate that compromised my server? If that's the case.. you are in some deep fucking shit.

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                          • Jace
                            FBOP Class Of 2013
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 35562

                            #113
                            Originally posted by fuzebox
                            I'm also curious, don't a lot of sales with 0 clicks set off your fraud detection tools?
                            OMFG

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                            • mikeyddddd
                              Viva la vulva!
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 16557

                              #114
                              Originally posted by SwordFish
                              Guys, I have banned the account. Any time you guys find something like this, email it to me [email protected] and I can handle it fast. I would have resolved this faster had I not been at a family outing.

                              Heading back out into the nice weather.
                              So you banned the account.

                              What would happen with the stolen joins?




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                              • kektex
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 1813

                                #115
                                I'm so glad this thread came up before I sent a single click to these people.
                                Their reply was so predictable.
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                                • Gnus
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 577

                                  #116
                                  I just passing on the message from the ICQ convo we had is all. I said assumed if you read the response I gave. Busy pulling links as we speak.

                                  Gary
                                  ICQ -73665782
                                  Domains for sale - milfwatch.com $2k, pornnut.com $500, assforu.com $2K, xxxratedonly.com $1K

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                                  • Quickdraw
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 1717

                                    #117
                                    Ray @ Tasty-
                                    If a site has any traffic, you can bet they are a target.
                                    See the Hustler grab I posted. The target was secure.hustler.com

                                    idownload and quickbuck have the same owner according to the xbiz article posted.
                                    http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/idownload.com

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                                    • dig420
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 9240

                                      #118
                                      One of these days you people will learn... anyone who will fuck the surfer will fuck the webmaster. It's not just quickbuck. ANY proggie that spams big time, opens endless consoles, double bills - if they'll fuck a surfer they'll fuck you.

                                      If you want an honest proggie, find one that is honest with the surfer and makes their money with good sticky sites. That's who's going to take care of you in the long term. If they treat the surfer right, they'll treat you right.

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                                      • RawAlex
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 9465

                                        #119
                                        CCBill needs to take action against Zango and Quickbuck. Quite simply, this is putting me in the position of not wanting to send traffic to sites that use the standard CCBill interface. The value of their business and the trust of webmasters in this billing method has clearly been hurt.

                                        I feel sorry for anyone using CCBill direct at this point, because without change, things don't look good right now.

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                                        • pocketkangaroo
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2005
                                          • 8452

                                          #120
                                          So an affiliate in your program can bypass the site and link directly to the merchant billing page without an affiliate code? To a site that isn't even listed in your affiliate panel. And all this without you noticing that not a single click is sent to the site yet all these sales are coming in?

                                          Seriously, do you really think people are buying this?

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                                          • Ray@TastyDollars
                                            • May 2002
                                            • 6797

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by Quickdraw
                                            Ray @ Tasty-
                                            If a site has any traffic, you can bet they are a target.
                                            See the Hustler grab I posted. The target was secure.hustler.com

                                            idownload and quickbuck have the same owner according to the xbiz article posted.
                                            http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/idownload.com
                                            Ahh, I didnt notice Hustler. Thx man

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                                            • SomeCreep
                                              :glugglug
                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 26118

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by Wiseman
                                              Ok well It's family time. But Affiliate will be banned asap. And for those claiming xxxpass isnt in our program you are very wrong. ITs in there you just have to request it. More to come
                                              Originally posted by SwordFish
                                              Guys, I have banned the account. Any time you guys find something like this, email it to me [email protected] and I can handle it fast. I would have resolved this faster had I not been at a family outing.

                                              Heading back out into the nice weather.

                                              Webair Hosting

                                              I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

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                                              • Mutt
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Sep 2002
                                                • 34431

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                CCBill needs to take action against Zango and Quickbuck. Quite simply, this is putting me in the position of not wanting to send traffic to sites that use the standard CCBill interface. The value of their business and the trust of webmasters in this billing method has clearly been hurt.

                                                I feel sorry for anyone using CCBill direct at this point, because without change, things don't look good right now.
                                                that's not fair to CCBILL - Paycom's join pages were hijacked as well and even programs like Hustler who do their own billing.
                                                I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                • jscott
                                                  jscizzle
                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                  • 25452

                                                  #124
                                                  i dont have much traffic going to quickbuck, but the small amounts i do is getting pulled now, and blacklisting quickbuck aswell on my sponsors page

                                                  thats fucked up guys
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                                                  • Quick Buck
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                    • 1026

                                                    #125
                                                    i'm going to start a seperate thread to answer this. not much use when the witches claim we're either stealing or lying.
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                                                    • Sebastian Sands
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                      • 5223

                                                      #126
                                                      everyone says ccbill needs to... But is quickbuck processing through ccbill or epoch? the billing companies still get their cash from you or quickbuck or anyone else.. not pointing fingers just saying.

                                                      Sebs

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                                                      • MaDalton
                                                        I am Amazing Content!
                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                        • 39861

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by dig420
                                                        One of these days you people will learn... anyone who will fuck the surfer will fuck the webmaster. It's not just quickbuck. ANY proggie that spams big time, opens endless consoles, double bills - if they'll fuck a surfer they'll fuck you.

                                                        If you want an honest proggie, find one that is honest with the surfer and makes their money with good sticky sites. That's who's going to take care of you in the long term. If they treat the surfer right, they'll treat you right.
                                                        my thoughts exactly
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                                                        • thonglife
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                          • 1566

                                                          #128
                                                          i'm going to start a seperate thread to answer this. not much use when the witches claim we're either stealing or lying.
                                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs

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                                                          • jscott
                                                            jscizzle
                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                            • 25452

                                                            #129
                                                            i still cant believe how all these scamming companies appear to be totally untouchable from laws, it's shocking, and sad
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                                                            • pocketkangaroo
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                              • 8452

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by thonglife
                                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zbmENT4D0k

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                                                              • Quick Buck
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                • 1026

                                                                #131
                                                                here you go zoo crew... i don't think we'll be commenting further. no point.

                                                                http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=13198153
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                                                                • Taass
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                  • 697

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                  I'd expect ccBill and Paycom to get their legal teams all over this.
                                                                  WG
                                                                  Just what I was thinking.. Having one account holder stealing from the others should have them pulled from billing right away
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                                                                  • RawAlex
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                    • 9465

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Quick Buck is also at the end of the line for all the sites like this:

                                                                    http://www.anjalikara.org/

                                                                    packed full of "borrowed" content from other programs used to promote only xxxpass.

                                                                    Nice stuff.

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                                                                    • mikeyddddd
                                                                      Viva la vulva!
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 16557

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by Shap
                                                                      This was posted in another thread.
                                                                      If a surfer with the zango toolbar tries to join a ccbill site they get popped with the XXXPass join form on top of the Ccbill join form.

                                                                      What can be done to stop this? This is definitely hurts all sites processing with ccbill.
                                                                      I'm curious about what would happen if someone used Zango to target xxxpass.com.

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                                                                      • georgeyw
                                                                        58008 53773
                                                                        • Jul 2005
                                                                        • 9865

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by Quick Buck
                                                                        here you go zoo crew... i don't think we'll be commenting further. no point.

                                                                        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=13198153


                                                                        holy shit, there are some seriously unethical people in this industry and you'd probably just about make #1
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                                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 41470

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by AdvertisingSex
                                                                          I guess you could drop ccbill

                                                                          wouldn't just be ccbill - they could do it on any processor.

                                                                          good thing is doing it to ccbill, they just went after a MAJOR corporation that will protect their assets and reputation in court with major lawyers.

                                                                          BIG mistake for zango. will take time but ccbill won't let something like this go.
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                                                                          • mpahlca
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                            • 1821

                                                                            #137
                                                                            I wonder if anyone buying trademark terms such as; Hustler or Twistys is really thinking about trademark and copyright violation? It will be interesting to see, what a lawyer has to say about it.
                                                                            I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                                            • rowan
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                              • 17393

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Possible quick fix: a timed self.focus() if the biller's join page detects zango installed? That will ensure the proper join page pulls focus and is on top, although it will still ultimately damage surfer confidence after they complete the signup and find another paysite signup form underneath it.

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                                                                              • BlackCrayon
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                • 19634

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by Quick Buck
                                                                                i'm going to start a seperate thread to answer this. not much use when the witches claim we're either stealing or lying.
                                                                                Good luck explaining how it was linked directly to your merchant page.
                                                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                • QuaWee
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                  • 5791

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by thonglife
                                                                                  I hear ya man... headed to mainstream as well.
                                                                                  it happens in manstream too. trust me
                                                                                  i luv mainstream

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                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                    best designer on GFY
                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 30307

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    I thought doing all this shit was pretty normal, now it is not?
                                                                                    It's been goin for years, so now it is NOT OK?

                                                                                    I mentioned this a while back ago and was called an idiot, that its not happening and that even if it is nothing can will be done about it.

                                                                                    I do not give a fuck one way another, you people are just stupid.

                                                                                    Wondering how much longer it's gonna take you morons to see code swaps on sign up pages next...

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                                                                                    • dig420
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                      • 9240

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      you are a genius Alien, we all bask in your glory. Thanks.

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                                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                        • 30307

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by dig420
                                                                                        you are a genius Alien, we all bask in your glory. Thanks.

                                                                                        If ya guys thought I was wealthy ya all would be sucking my dick at the snap of a finger to

                                                                                        But on another note, you guys keep pointing shit out on some sort of band wagon and its the kinda shit that has been happening for quite a while...

                                                                                        I do not know what happened to smart webmaster's I really don't.

                                                                                        I just gave the adult webmaster community more credit than I should have. Fact is you people are fucking DUMB. When I say something I am an idiot and retard...

                                                                                        When a retard goes and says it, you people are like OMGz how!!!! ???? OMGS thats theft!!!



                                                                                        It's pathetic. But since my new policy of not giving a shit about any of this, I have been knocking out my own corner of the universe and its gettin better every day.
                                                                                        Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-06-2007, 03:00 PM.

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                                                                                        • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                          • 122992

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          god i love this biz.... amazing

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                                                                                          • qxm
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                            • 5970

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            this is some fucked up shit......

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                                                                                            • TampaToker
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                                              • 5828

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by Axeman
                                                                                              We have seen a larger % of people filling out the nats join form only to never make it thru the sale the past couple weeks. No denial emails from CCbill just abrupt end. Given a % get cold feet but I have suspected a bigger issue is at hand and this gives me almost certainty.
                                                                                              yeap yeap same thing here
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                                                                                              • Shoplifter
                                                                                                Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                • 5870

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                                                                CCBill needs to take action against Zango and Quickbuck. Quite simply, this is putting me in the position of not wanting to send traffic to sites that use the standard CCBill interface. The value of their business and the trust of webmasters in this billing method has clearly been hurt.

                                                                                                I feel sorry for anyone using CCBill direct at this point, because without change, things don't look good right now.
                                                                                                Absolutely. This undermines the basic fundamentals of the whole industry and CCBill must put the legal slam on these guys to ensure that trust in the process and product is maintained.

                                                                                                And not just CCBill...I suppose the time has come for all of the processors and webmasters themselves to be vigilant in detecting and combating this sort of fraud. I'm installing Zango on an old box and intend to do some urfing this weekend to see what comes up.
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                                                                                                • TampaToker
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2006
                                                                                                  • 5828

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by thonglife
                                                                                                  That's total fucking bullshit. I installed zango when all this went down. I then went to one of my own free sites and clicked the very first link I saw which happened to be a Raging Bucks NATS link. I clicked through to the join page, filled in the information for user details and clicked "Join Now" to passthrough to Epoch. The join page came up only to be poped completely over with your shit. You got caught and just now turned the shit off.. because it's not doing it now.

                                                                                                  See sig asshole.. see sig.
                                                                                                  Son of a bitch just tried it myself sure enough fuckin popup
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                                                                                                  • dig420
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                    • 9240

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                    If ya guys thought I was wealthy ya all would be sucking my dick at the snap of a finger to

                                                                                                    But on another note, you guys keep pointing shit out on some sort of band wagon and its the kinda shit that has been happening for quite a while...

                                                                                                    I do not know what happened to smart webmaster's I really don't.

                                                                                                    I just gave the adult webmaster community more credit than I should have. Fact is you people are fucking DUMB. When I say something I am an idiot and retard...

                                                                                                    When a retard goes and says it, you people are like OMGz how!!!! ???? OMGS thats theft!!!



                                                                                                    It's pathetic. But since my new policy of not giving a shit about any of this, I have been knocking out my own corner of the universe and its gettin better every day.
                                                                                                    nah I wouldn't allow some of the richest guys in this business to come in my house.

                                                                                                    The funny thing is that you REALLY think you're the first one to 'speak out' on this type of thing, and everybody just ignored you because... well... you're you.

                                                                                                    Keep your nose to the grindstone, it's the best policy.

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                                                                                                    • NinjaSteve
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                      • 11089

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                                      That's just brutal.

                                                                                                      Should we expect a reply from Quickbuck in here?
                                                                                                      Brutal indeed.
                                                                                                      ...

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