Using Zango to steal Ccbill join form traffic. What can we do about this?

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  • pocketkangaroo
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    • Jan 2005
    • 8452

    #51
    They do have a nice design on their MILF site:

    http://www.gofuckamilf.com/01/index.php

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    • will76
      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
      • May 2003
      • 18037

      #52
      so how will Quickbuck respond:

      1. no response just ignore and hope it goes away (aka SexSearch Approach)

      2. come in here and insult people and say "its legal" and say a lot of stupid shit (aka Lars approach).

      3. Blame it on a bad affiliate (industry default response)
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      • Quickdraw
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        • Mar 2004
        • 1717

        #53
        For those of you trying to detect zango visitors. You should know that they use a myriad of headers, not just 'zango'. They also use, hotbar, hbtools, seekmo, and I'm sure many others.

        For those of you talking about going strictly mainstream. That is good and all, but the grass isn't any greener over there.

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        • mikeyddddd
          Viva la vulva!
          • Mar 2003
          • 16557

          #54



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          • kektex
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            • Mar 2005
            • 1813

            #55
            Originally posted by will76
            so how will Quickbuck respond:

            1. no response just ignore and hope it goes away (aka SexSearch Approach)

            2. come in here and insult people and say "its legal" and say a lot of stupid shit (aka Lars approach).

            3. Blame it on a bad affiliate (industry default response)
            I'm gonna go with number 3 here, will! What do I win?
            exgfmovies.com, exgfclips.com, datesx.com, gayboards.com and more!

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            • MaDalton
              I am Amazing Content!
              • Feb 2004
              • 39861

              #56
              haha - quickbuck should update its signature from "fuck the surfers" to "fuck the surfers and our competition". but according to my observations from Amsterdam wiseman is a bro so probably not much will happen
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              • Jace
                FBOP Class Of 2013
                • Jan 2004
                • 35562

                #57
                Originally posted by Quickdraw
                For those of you trying to detect zango visitors. You should know that they use a myriad of headers, not just 'zango'. They also use, hotbar, hbtools, seekmo, and I'm sure many others.

                For those of you talking about going strictly mainstream. That is good and all, but the grass isn't any greener over there.
                hell no it isn't

                mainstream is just as bad and is sometimes way more difficult...as bad as adult is sometimes, there isn't one issue I have that can't be dealt with in a few hours, with my mainstream stuff I have to give up on some promotions from the lack of caring by the program owners/employees

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                • will76
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                  • May 2003
                  • 18037

                  #58
                  Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                  They do have a nice design on their MILF site:

                  http://www.gofuckamilf.com/01/index.php
                  FUCKING ASSHOLES... never ending exit pop up loop.


                  going to restart my pc now so this shit stops poping up. fuck this company.


                  this is real orginal btw....

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                  • will76
                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                    • May 2003
                    • 18037

                    #59
                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                    haha - quickbuck should update its signature from "fuck the surfers" to "fuck the surfers and our competition". but according to my observations from Amsterdam wiseman is a bro so probably not much will happen
                    fuck ths surfers is right, never ending pop up shit off of their sites. this was gay back in the 90's. no point to loop your exit pages so people cant leave. fucking assholes.
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                    • Quickdraw
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                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1717

                      #60
                      Another company targeting wnu.com/secure..

                      Anyone guess who it is?

                      That's right, Megapornbucks, er, uh, I mean Sexbankroll

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                      • Axeman
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 5201

                        #61
                        We have seen a larger % of people filling out the nats join form only to never make it thru the sale the past couple weeks. No denial emails from CCbill just abrupt end. Given a % get cold feet but I have suspected a bigger issue is at hand and this gives me almost certainty.
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                        • will76
                          Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                          • May 2003
                          • 18037

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Quickdraw
                          Another company targeting wnu.com/secure..

                          Anyone guess who it is?

                          That's right, Megapornbucks, er, uh, I mean Sexbankroll
                          I guess this is just the new way to use zango.... why target the url when you can target the signup page directly. Zango should be sued for this as well.


                          FUCK SEXBANK ROLL and 18oncam.com mother fuckers been targeting ifriends.com for well over a year.

                          I wouldn't piss on these fuckers if they were on fire.

                          I can't believe some of you people still do business with them. I hope seeing shit like this cause more and more people to stop using them.
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                          • V_RocKs
                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 32451

                            #63
                            Wow.. that is pretty scuzzy!

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                            • Shap
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2001
                              • 8313

                              #64
                              We now have the triad of threads going on to make webmasters aware

                              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=774606
                              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=774612
                              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=774597

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                              • TeenCat
                                Too lazy to set a koala
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 16131

                                #65
                                hm great work and fuck off everyone who is not playing nice!

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                                • »Rob Content«
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2006
                                  • 4348

                                  #66
                                  Will just look up isearch or idownload

                                  http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sil...d=99522&page=1

                                  Here is a nice write up on idownload

                                  http://spywarewarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=10726#64940

                                  80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
                                  3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
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                                  • Ray@TastyDollars
                                    • May 2002
                                    • 6797

                                    #67
                                    Here is anohter good one

                                    http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=720781

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                                    • dig420
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 9240

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by AdvertisingSex
                                      I guess you could drop ccbill
                                      it's just a matter of someone buying the keywords from whatever billing company you choose to do biz with, it won't help anything. The only thing that WILL help is for someone to step up and sue the shit out of Zango for lost profits, and perhaps go after the companies who possibly violated trademark via the keywords they bought. I think everyone else is just like me though, waiting for someone else to step up and initiate the action. It will be expensive... a billing company would be a good candidate to get it started as they can afford it and they would probably generate a great deal of good will in the process.

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                                      • Sysgenix
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2005
                                        • 287

                                        #69
                                        We have seen a ton of signups lost recently into blackholes that never made it to epoch, the thing is that it is not only Zango there are others
                                        Ads available on ebony niche site.

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                                        • kektex
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 1813

                                          #70
                                          I think we need a site with a sponsor blacklist for these kind of scumbag sponsors.A site like that would go straight on my sig.
                                          zangoblacklist.com hasnt been updated in ages.
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                                          • Jace
                                            FBOP Class Of 2013
                                            • Jan 2004
                                            • 35562

                                            #71
                                            http://www.viraldiscussion.com/post/...ill-join-forms

                                            VOTE ON THAT...KEEP IT HIGH!

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                                            • Gnus
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 577

                                              #72
                                              Well I just got off ICQ with Wiseman regarding this issue. The response I got was "fucking afiliates ok well im outa town will send an email see whats up". Told him he needs to respond to this so we'll see.

                                              Gary
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                                              • Quickdraw
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2004
                                                • 1717

                                                #73
                                                And here we have freepornlessons(you bros know who this is....) targeting secure.hustler.com

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                                                • Mutt
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 34431

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Sysgenix
                                                  We have seen a ton of signups lost recently into blackholes that never made it to epoch, the thing is that it is not only Zango there are others
                                                  that's what i think - there are others and more coming i'm sure.
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                                                  • Drake
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                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                    • 12508

                                                    #75
                                                    I think Quickbucks is one of the biggest names in adult. I think there was a thread about them not too long ago where it was said that they payout over $1million to affiliates each month.

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                                                    • xclusive
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                      • 35218

                                                      #76
                                                      Fuck me they are brilliant, They learned how to shave sales from other programs. This really is a criminal act and with the amount they are pulling in i'm sure it could lead to some jail time.

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                                                      • nation-x
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                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                        • 5370

                                                        #77
                                                        I say we file a class action lawsuit againsta these fucks.

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                                                        • HS-Trixxxia
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                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 2946

                                                          #78
                                                          Guys - for me it's simple. Calculate the losses in the past few months. Video tape this transaction going bad. Click on the sites that have your stolen content - signup - get jacked by them. Then will you all put your money together and put it where your mouth is and sue these crooks? These are not people you want to do business with.

                                                          They will smile and pal you at shows and send you deals some other way and fuck you up the ass with no lube the other way. They affect your business cuz when YOUR sites aren't converting anymore (because sales are jacked to go to their sites)- affiliates think it's YOU that is either doing something shady, or your shit don't convert. So you get DP without lube and you didn't ask for it!

                                                          Class action lawsuit - I'm sure there are a few hungry lawyers with balls and you will get support from other programs losing millions and affiliates alike.


                                                          On another note - weren't Zango in court and settled with the FTC about targetting direct urls? Guess you need to document this shit fast and hit up the FTC.
                                                          Last edited by HS-Trixxxia; 10-06-2007, 11:11 AM.

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                                                          • xclusive
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                            • 35218

                                                            #79
                                                            We are all going to get chairs thrown at us, I heard that wiseman is out at walmart stocking up on cheap chairs.

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                                                            • Gnus
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                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 577

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Gnus
                                                              Well I just got off ICQ with Wiseman regarding this issue. The response I got was "fucking afiliates ok well im outa town will send an email see whats up". Told him he needs to respond to this so we'll see.
                                                              From my conversation with Wiseman I assume this could be an affiliate doing this.

                                                              Gary
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                                                              • Mutt
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                • 34431

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Gnus
                                                                From my conversation with Wiseman I assume this could be an affiliate doing this.

                                                                Gary
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                                                                • MaDalton
                                                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 39861

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Gnus
                                                                  From my conversation with Wiseman I assume this could be an affiliate doing this.

                                                                  Gary
                                                                  yeah, probably
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                                                                  • xclusive
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                                    • 35218

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Mutt

                                                                    I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                                                                    • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                      • 6797

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Quickdraw

                                                                      Can you please see if the same thing happens when you visit site with their own merchant accounts? Site not using 3rd party billers.

                                                                      thx!!
                                                                      Ray

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                                                                      • Jace
                                                                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                        • 35562

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Gnus
                                                                        From my conversation with Wiseman I assume this could be an affiliate doing this.

                                                                        Gary
                                                                        wow, so an affiliate has access to campigns that NO OTHER affiliate has access to?

                                                                        you can't get the xxxpass link codes from the webmaster admin, at least 5 people I know have tried it, so how does that work again?

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                                                                        • thonglife
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                                          • 1566

                                                                          #86
                                                                          From my conversation with Wiseman I assume this could be an affiliate doing this.

                                                                          Gary
                                                                          How the fuck can an affiliate be doing this. That motherfucker can go suck a dick.

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                                                                          • Quickdraw
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                            • 1717

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Gnus
                                                                            From my conversation with Wiseman I assume this could be an affiliate doing this.

                                                                            Gary
                                                                            Yeah, I'm sure it is..
                                                                            Last edited by Eric; 11-19-2007, 01:13 PM.

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                                                                            • THY
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                              • 351

                                                                              #88
                                                                              this shit is fucked up... is it only with epoch and ccbill? what about the other smaller billers? how long till they get hit as well...

                                                                              anyone has an idea of what % of adult surfers are infected with zango?
                                                                              is there some way to know that?

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                                                                              • Jman
                                                                                Already an AI veteran
                                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                                • 22833

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Gnus
                                                                                From my conversation with Wiseman I assume this could be an affiliate doing this.

                                                                                Gary
                                                                                No shit... It's ALWAYS an affiliate
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                                                                                • BlackCrayon
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                  • 19634

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Wow, this is unbelieveable.
                                                                                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                  • Rui
                                                                                    web
                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                    • 9533

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Wonder what the same people busting Shap's ass in the other threads have to say about this...

                                                                                    scumbags...

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                                                                                    • Shoplifter
                                                                                      Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 5866

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Quickdraw, where did you download this toolbar? We want to try to duplicate this and see if our own sites are clean.
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                                                                                      • Jace
                                                                                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                                        • 35562

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                                                                        Quickdraw, where did you download this toolbar? We want to try to duplicate this and see if our own sites are clean.
                                                                                        zango dot com

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                                                                                        • Sysgenix
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                                          • 287

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          What about this idea to bring more attention to this then zango can handle?

                                                                                          See if their toolbars popup anything on big companies such as Microsoft, HP, Costco, and such? Make those companies aware of that issue as a customer who was trying to order something.
                                                                                          Ads available on ebony niche site.

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                                                                                          • will76
                                                                                            Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                                            • 18037

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                            Yeah you right
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                                                                                            • HS-Trixxxia
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                              • 2946

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Sysgenix
                                                                                              What about this idea to bring more attention to this then zango can handle?

                                                                                              See if their toolbars popup anything on big companies such as Microsoft, HP, Costco, and such? Make those companies aware of that issue as a customer who was trying to order something.
                                                                                              Could be an idea - inundate MS with reports & proof to back it up. They'll find a way to zap them out.

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                                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 30307

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Welcome to two years ago. I mentioned this a long ass time ago, was called an idiot, and was even fucking banned for pointing it out, now ya guys see it and all of a sudden it is a shock?

                                                                                                You people are fucking retarded.
                                                                                                Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-06-2007, 11:44 AM.

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                                                                                                • Wiseman
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 2990

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Ok well It's family time. But Affiliate will be banned asap. And for those claiming xxxpass isnt in our program you are very wrong. ITs in there you just have to request it. More to come
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                                                                                                  • will76
                                                                                                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                    • 18037

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Quickdraw
                                                                                                    Yeah, I'm sure it is..
                                                                                                    This is from http://www.xbiz.com/articles/10484
                                                                                                    Gilbert counters that "adware is just another medium. Just like with dialers, where there are those who abuse them and those who use them fairly. Regardless of what some people have said, we've always stayed on the kinder, gentler side of desktop marketing."

                                                                                                    and using Zango to pop up over ccbill and epoch's signup page is being kind and gentle marketing ?????? nigga please.
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                                                                                                    • will76
                                                                                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                      • 18037

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Wiseman
                                                                                                      Ok well It's family time. But Affiliate will be banned asap. And for those claiming xxxpass isnt in our program you are very wrong. ITs in there you just have to request it. More to come
                                                                                                      Thats what sexbank roll said.... and in their case the url being used was on their server and not an affiliate. And a year later they are still using zango.


                                                                                                      So if this is an affiliate is should stop now and we should never see it happen again... personaly I am not buying the "its an affiliate". You guys just happen to be involved with your own "adware", your slogan is " fuck the surfer" and you have a very shaddy history from what I hear. I guess it was just a coincidence this bad affiliate picked your program to do this.
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