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03-22-2012, 04:20 PM

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In reality, the only thing stopping me from beating annoying hippies in to perpetual silence *IS* the legal consequences. I am not alone either.

Seriously, I never got into BJJ... but I've done a lot of karate, kick boxing and boxing and I've owned my own place. If i could just punch someone or kick them in the thigh, inner thigh, knee or head as hard as i could every time someone annoyed me, and just pushed a hard front kick right through their abdomen as I moved closer to ask what they were muttering under their breath... there'd be a lot of unconscious homeless people, people in line at the bank, checkout people at the supermarket and so on out there.

It could be a whole new business. Why spar with each other in the confines of a ring or mat, when you can spar with a spindly homeless guy who's high on meth and fighting for both a fix and a warm place to sleep that night... who's packing a .38 which may or may not be loaded?

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03-22-2012, 05:14 PM

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A much better question would be what is a Juggalo?

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03-22-2012, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

The biggest racists, bigots and hate groups ARE in the GOVERNMENT. They block people from working, being educated, encourage poverty and put un-born babies and societies in DEBT. Not to mention millions of non criminals into cages for no reason whatsoever.

Stop worrying about some racist or white supremacists here and there. They don't have the monopoly of force to arrest you , tax you, etc

Sure they do. You left out, conveniently, lynching.

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03-22-2012, 05:23 PM

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I don't have any failures or problems

Philosophy and libertarianism has changed my life. I am spreading the word. It's too bad propaganda is embedded too deep on lots of people still

What school of philosophy do you follow? What philosophers and books have you read to 'educate' yourself? You claim to have graduated from a 'new ivy league' school. Which school? What was your major/minor? How old are you?

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03-22-2012, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by TheSquealer

You rely on word games and semantics to make a point - and your points are insane anyway so that fact, i suppose is irrelevant anyway... and no matter what, once you get backed into a corner with the simple logic of a 10 year old, you quickly retreat to the asinine idea that anyone only believes anything that contradicts your world view because they are brainwashed by "authority figures".

To be clear, this is just my attempt to amuse myself as I work.

That aside, EVERYONE but you understands laws and rules aren't the only thing stopping people from killing stealing etc. Clearly a large deterrent. What will stop the USA from being a narco terrorist state ran by Mexican cartels without government and without organization, laws, law enforcement etc?

How can you possibly know what any individual person would do on any random street when you admit governments keep secrets and secret societies exist and aliens rule the world from hollow earth? It's painfully obvious.

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03-22-2012, 05:31 PM

johnny, humans created the state. it's not something that dropped on humans from space and corrupted them ... wait ....
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03-22-2012, 05:32 PM

what school of philosophy do you follow? your favorite three philosophers? last philosophical text you have read?
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03-22-2012, 05:35 PM

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Somehow I doubt 2/3 of that. Did you have meetings with other 'philosophers' in the steam tunnels?

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03-22-2012, 05:41 PM

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You do realize that you live in anarchy in your personal life and relationships, right?

You do realize that ebay is an anarchistic model, right?

I mean it's not rocket science here

I knew it. Ebay and paypal are tools of the reptilian aliens inhabiting the hollow earth as a tool to mold, shape, and control us along with the illuminati(unless they are one in the same, oh my!) in order to indoctrinate us that education is a virtue so the 7 jewish bankers who control the world from earth's orbit can institute the NWO.

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03-22-2012, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

Humans did not create the "state" just like they didn't create language. People falsely believe that "oh everyone got together and formed a government" or that people started communicating and everyone learned a language . Why is EVERY single government the same no matter where the location? Of all possibilities, very little difference if any at all

Both are handed from the top down. The only thing that perpetuates the state is abusing, spanking, and mistreating your children. Then they become submissive and look for authority figures. The state is HELD in place by this...raise your kids peacefully and no state

who created the state then?
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03-22-2012, 05:52 PM

Hahaha... the guy can't construct a coherent thought, nor can he see the glaringly obvious flaws in his "logic" - but he went to MIT?

LOL

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03-22-2012, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

Do you need the government to tell you who to date or where to go shopping? No, you voluntarily choose them. This is not difficult to understand I hope. Now just expand that and you're all set

You don't even seem to understand what Anarchy is. We do everything within the confines of rules and laws. No one tells you where to go shopping... but how to get there, how fast you go, which side of the road you drive on, how to pay etc etc etc etc etc ... all dictated by the governments we elect

having the freedom to make choices is not "anarchy"

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03-22-2012, 05:56 PM

maybe a MIT "spokes" person can confirm his enrollment.
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03-22-2012, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

You simply to not understand anarchy/libertarianism/freedom and are splitting hairs here. I'm talking about living in a free society free from coercion, which we do NOT currently live in.

You have been propagandized and the first image you probably thing when you hear the word "anarchy" is a bunch of guys with handkerchiefs over their mouths throwing molativ cocktails at buildings. Nothing can be further from the truth, of course. Which is why you need propaganda...

Anarchy and Libertarianism have nothing to do with each other. "less government in our lives" is not the same as "No government at all" dumbass.

You don't even seem to know what either are.

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03-22-2012, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

WRONG

Again stop splitting hairs

I am for NO government aka no group of people with a monopoly to do what they want and use force against you. I am for property rights and non violence.

You might be for non violence, but mexican cartels are all for moving in, cutting off civilians heads to send a message, executing anyone that gets in their way and selling cocaine and any other drug thats profitable. Maybe your little 3rd grade view of utopia has an idea to deal with that which doesn't include organized law enforcement, intelligence agencies, courts, a criminal justice system and a penal system?

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03-22-2012, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

WRONG

Again stop splitting hairs

I am for NO government aka no group of people with a monopoly to do what they want and use force against you. I am for property rights and non violence.

Who protects your rights?

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03-22-2012, 06:07 PM

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who created the state then?

Aliens or God.

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03-22-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

Who protects your "rights" now?

The State. You steal my property... you get arrested. You assault me, you go to jail. etc etc. They're called "Laws" - those things created by elected officials.

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03-22-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

I am for property rights

who has the authority to enforce that?
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03-22-2012, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

That's because drugs are illegal...

In a free society drugs wouldn't be illegal. Every hear of alcohol prohibition and how the same thing is happening? Again, not rocket science

You don't know that to be true and you can't prove that to be true.

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03-22-2012, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

The state protects your rights?!?! Is that a joke?

I'm sorry, was that your idea of a well reasoned argument?

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03-22-2012, 06:15 PM

Johnny just wants to return to the dark ages! You know, before organized goverment FORCED you to live civil like. Before public education and laws, when people were just good to each other and nobody ever robbed, raped or destroyed. The genuine good qualities of man were the order of the day and everyone worked together for a happier tomorrow for all!

I mean it's not like when Rome fell that things got worse or anything!

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#73

03-22-2012, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

How's public education working out?

Well it's certainly been a failure with you. You reason at about a 4th grade level.

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03-22-2012, 06:17 PM

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How's public education working out?

Better than 95% of Africa.

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03-22-2012, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

Umm not sure if you're being serious with this one?

Legalize drugs and all the crime goes away. See: alcohol

What crime went away? Compare Chicago gangsters shooting each other to.. say,... children getting killed by a drunk drivers because they're "Free" to drink all they want. Which number is greater genius?

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03-22-2012, 06:19 PM

So Johnny please explain why when Rome falls we enter the Dark Ages? I mean without a goverment things should have been much better, right? Drugs weren't illegal and all crime certainly didn't dissapear.

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03-22-2012, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

Legalize drugs. Then there wouldn't be an unnecessary, stupid war against non criminals

Which again has absolutely nothing to do with what was said and instead has to do with pot? you must have one hell of a habit.

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03-22-2012, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by WarChild

So Johnny please explain why when Rome falls we enter the Dark Ages? I mean without a goverment things should have been much better, right? Drugs weren't illegal and all crime certainly didn't dissapear.

Still waiting ...

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03-22-2012, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by WarChild

Still waiting ...

I'm still trying to figure out who forms a government if it isn't people. Could be camels.

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03-22-2012, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

Legalize drugs. Then there wouldn't be an unnecessary, stupid war against non criminals

That has nothing to do with my remark. Nothing at all.

I just reply because its interesting watching you respond. You're clearly lying about who you are and you're obviously in dire need of mental help.

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03-22-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

Violence never works. It's fairly easy to understand. When you try and FORCE people to do something it doesn't work because if they wanted to do it they wouldn't have to be forced to do so. Same reason why this country is slowly circling the drain

Are we talking about the good of volunteerism again?

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03-22-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

Violence never works. It's fairly easy to understand. When you try and FORCE people to do something it doesn't work because if they wanted to do it they wouldn't have to be forced to do so. Same reason why this country is slowly circling the drain

So you can't answer why after the fall of the first real organized goverment the World is plunged in to the Dark Ages? Imagine that.

Checkmate and good night.

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03-22-2012, 06:31 PM

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Are we talking about the good of volunteerism again?

Yeah.. .you know, where people organize behind ideas and leaders and coordinate their efforts to achieve an objective. kinda like education, calling 911, emergency room visits or calling the fire department - except in this perfect world, everyone is a great surgeon, no one gets paid and if you want to just stab your doctor with a Bowie Knife and steal all the meds when he's done, thats cool too because there is no police to call.

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03-22-2012, 06:32 PM

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Yeah.. .you know, where people organize behind ideas and leaders and coordinate their efforts to achieve an objective. kinda like education, calling 911, emergency room visits or calling the fire department - except in this perfect world, everyone is a great surgeon, no one gets paid and if you want to just stab your doctor with a Bowie Knife and steal all the meds when he's done, thats cool too because there is no police to call.

That sounds a lot like the beginning stages of forming a government. People don't form governments. Idiot.

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03-22-2012, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

Making a plant illegal and creating a war thus killing thousands of people isn't exactly too bright. Solution is simple and no it does no involve MORE guns and MORE laws...make it legal. Problem solved, not difficult.

What does that have to do with Al Capone killing mobsters and a drunk driver killing a little kid on the way home from the bar?

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03-22-2012, 06:35 PM

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Making a plant illegal and creating a war thus killing thousands of people isn't exactly too bright. Solution is simple and no it does no involve MORE guns and MORE laws...make it legal. Problem solved, not difficult.

Again... NOTHING to do with my remark.. Nothing. You used Alcohol as an example. YOUR example.

Drunk drivers kill innocent children. There is less drunk driving because of laws and their strict enforcement. Making drunk driving legal does not decrease drunk driving... nor does it decrease the number of people killed by drunk drivers.

You don't get tired of losing and having to keep changing directions?

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03-22-2012, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

What does drunk driving have anything to do with anything? Laws don't prevent people from driving drunk. If they did then no one would get arrested for DWIs

Why are we talking about drunk drivers?

Me: "Hey let's live in a free society!"
You: "But they'll be drunk drivers!!"

Again... YOU used the example of alcohol. Not me. So thats why dumbass.

Why do you keep dodging the point? The only way your "position" makes sense is if one is heavily medicated, stone out of their mind or if you accept that laws do nothing to deter crime or protect people.

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03-22-2012, 07:35 PM

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03-22-2012, 08:12 PM

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03-22-2012, 08:26 PM

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03-22-2012, 08:35 PM

One thing that I have learned in this thread from MIT JohnnyClips is that it is definitely not rocket science!

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

The government kills millions and imprisons millions

Yet you are worried about some street criminal who obviously isn't affected by laws one way or another . If children are raised peacefully and respectfully, then society will transform. Not rocket science.

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

You do realize that you live in anarchy in your personal life and relationships, right?

You do realize that ebay is an anarchistic model, right?

I mean it's not rocket science here

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

That's because drugs are illegal...

In a free society drugs wouldn't be illegal. Every hear of alcohol prohibition and how the same thing is happening? Again, not rocket science

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

What does that have anything to do with anything I'm talking about?

Legalize drugs and there will be no war. Not rocket science.

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03-23-2012, 06:27 AM

this guy can't be real.. seriously. Is this a boneprone character? If it is i'd give him a big high five for playing us like this.

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03-23-2012, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by PR_Glen

this guy can't be real.. seriously. Is this a boneprone character? If it is i'd give him a big high five for playing us like this.

You might be right. It is getting pretty unbelievable.

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03-23-2012, 09:17 AM

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03-23-2012, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by PR_Glen

this guy can't be real.. seriously. Is this a boneprone character? If it is i'd give him a big high five for playing us like this.

He's real. His behavior, thought/speech patterns are very consistent with one or more forms of schizophrenia. In addition to his disorganized and contradictory and often incoherent thoughts and delusions he's expressed here as well as the consistent theme of "anything "authority" (with no rigid definition) is evil" and that everything is a lie or propaganda, remember that he also believes we are all the spawn of aliens and aliens which are controlling us right now.

Quite a large % of the population suffer from one form of schizophrenia or another. There are many on this forum, including cam_girls, mindwaste and so on.

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03-23-2012, 09:58 AM

he's not schizo just not that smart and came across a few ideas that he latched on to. another case of the half-educated man.

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03-23-2012, 10:08 AM

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he's not schizo just not that smart and came across a few ideas that he latched on to. another case of the half-educated man.

camgirls is truly schizo johnny just uneducated and slow.

I think he is. Those "ideas" are how he rationalizes his very distorted world view and how he has learned to reconcile his ideas, views and behavior as being correct. They all do the same thing. Paranoid delusions are not "ideas" one latches on to. The idea of anarchy as a workable system of government, is simply the logical conclusion to his own delusional paranoia of authority and government.

Half educated doesn't explain his inability to string together a single coherent thought. He is almost in a panic state when he posts because his fragile world view and sense of who he is and why he is right, is being threatened - which would result in a massive breakdown.

Anyway, all of his behavior is characteristic of schizophrenia.

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03-23-2012, 10:19 AM

you misdiagnose him. he's just simply at the level of a 14 year old who read his first ayn rand book and turned fanatical about it. nothing more.

schizos will usually have something unique and idiosyncratic about their delusions where johnny is just boilerplate libertarianism and david icke but dumbed down quite a bit.
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03-23-2012, 10:47 AM

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Yes

That would be a 4.0/4.0

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03-23-2012, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by porno jew

you misdiagnose him. he's just simply at the level of a 14 year old who read his first ayn rand book and turned fanatical about it. nothing more.

schizos will usually have something unique and idiosyncratic about their delusions where johnny is just boilerplate libertarianism and david icke but dumbed down quite a bit.

that's what i thought at first but if you throw in the compulsive lying and the fantasy world stuff it goes well beyond just having a low iq.. His refusal to believe anything even refuting the idea of any education whatsoever isn't something that can be fixed by growing a little older and wiser, its a self perpetuating mental block, which is common in a lot of cases of psychosis.

...or boneprone is a genius and we all have egg on our faces.

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