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  • [illnet]-Romeo
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2001
    • 1207
    #151
    Did you honestly just call your surfer a 'client' now that's just fucking priceless.

    When you understand billing, the rules and parameters of visa/mc high risk merchant accounts, come back and say something intelligent. Your rambling of 3rd party processors has no value in this thread
    Brian C aka Romeo
    JBWebCash.com
    Brian at Jbwebcash.com

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      • esnem
        #152
        Originally posted by [illnet]-Romeo
        Did you honestly just call your surfer a 'client' now that's just fucking priceless.

        When you understand billing, the rules and parameters of visa/mc high risk merchant accounts, come back and say something intelligent. Your rambling of 3rd party processors has no value in this thread
        the argument that 'just because paycom or ccbill do not allow something' is not a valid argument. paycom and ccbill operate their businesses within their risk limits, as do other individual merchants. you're exactly right, 3rd party rules do not apply here.

        if anything, thank 3rd party processing for allowing idiots to enter this market with relatively no start-up, liability or a clue and running risk through the roof.

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          • Why
            MFBA
            • Mar 2003
            • 7230
            #153
            Originally posted by Steve PP
            I've seen dual pre-checked cross sales on sites that process with the Big 2 before.
            but on the their join forms, the amount that leaving that checkbox checked will cost you is RIGHT NEXT to it, rather then as a footnote. big difference IMHO.

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              • Forest
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2001
                • 9135
                #154
                Originally posted by [illnet]-Romeo
                Did you honestly just call your surfer a 'client' now that's just fucking priceless.
                i got a chuckle out of that myself

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                  • Mutt
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 34431
                    #155
                    Originally posted by esnem
                    Since I like Shap a lot, it makes it hard for me to comment in this thread...However, Canadians living in Bermuda really gave up their rights to complain to the FTC a long time ago. So please shut the fuck up with that FTC shit.

                    The rest of the trolls up in arms over other companies billing models need to realize that WEG has made more people more money in this industry than you will ever be able to imagine. RichC said it best.

                    This friendly, magical 'industry' that a lot of you think exists, doesn't. Nobody likes you, go home to not making any money on your 50/50 revshare split.
                    first you are an EMPLOYEE - you have no right to comment on shit until you actually OWN something. when Steve Hirsch makes you a partner and you no longer have to wear a nametag to work let us know.

                    Shap isn't in the BAHAMAS anymore - he's in Canada.

                    And that fucking retarded argument that WEG or anybody else has made people in this industry has made people more money blah blah blah - idiot - as if the same amount of money wouldn't have flowed through the industry and filtered down to affiliates if WEG or anybody else didn't exist. That goes for any program - Bangbros, Shap, WEG - PPS programs, revshare programs inclusive.
                    Last edited by Mutt; 10-05-2007, 09:16 AM.
                    I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                      • esnem
                        #156
                        Originally posted by Mutt
                        first you are an EMPLOYEE - you have no right to comment on shit until you actually OWN something. when Steve Hirsch makes you a partner and you no longer have to wear a nametag to work let us know.

                        Shap isn't in the BAHAMAS anymore - he's in Canada.

                        And that fucking retarded argument that WEG or anybody else has made people in this industry has made people more money blah blah blah - idiot - as if the same amount of money wouldn't have flowed through the industry and filtered down to affiliates if WEG or anybody else didn't exist. That goes for any program - Bangbros, Shap, WEG - PPS programs, revshare programs inclusive.
                        Mutt, I know you are respected and all, but you have no clue about what I own. Shut the fuck up and go find some models to shoot.

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                          • PunkRockXXX
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 486
                            #157
                            no comments from weg?

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                              • BlackCrayon
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 19634
                                #158
                                Originally posted by esnem
                                Since I like Shap a lot, it makes it hard for me to comment in this thread...However, Canadians living in Bermuda really gave up their rights to complain to the FTC a long time ago. So please shut the fuck up with that FTC shit.

                                The rest of the trolls up in arms over other companies billing models need to realize that WEG has made more people more money in this industry than you will ever be able to imagine. RichC said it best.

                                This friendly, magical 'industry' that a lot of you think exists, doesn't. Nobody likes you, go home to not making any money on your 50/50 revshare split.
                                What a short sighted opinion. They make people lots of money so shut up. Who knows what kind of shape the industry might in today if surfers would actually trust they won't get fucked when they sign up.
                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                  • 12clicks
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 19814
                                    #159
                                    Originally posted by Mutt
                                    first you are an EMPLOYEE - you have no right to comment on shit until you actually OWN something. when Steve Hirsch makes you a partner and you no longer have to wear a nametag to work let us know.
                                    there are many employees who's opinions and knowledge are more respected then the small time wanna be business owners.

                                    Mike's is certainly one of them.
                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                      • BradShaw
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 7840
                                        #160
                                        Mutt stick to finding hot models and leave the real business up to the tribesman, thanks.
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                                          • Varius
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jun 2004
                                            • 6890
                                            #161
                                            I'm surprised they don't get even more chargebacks due to their form only requiring the CC info, no personal info (name, billing address).
                                            Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

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                                              • BlackCrayon
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 19634
                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                Mutt stick to finding hot models and leave the real business up to the tribesman, thanks.
                                                Such "tribesmen" only have such views because its profitable to them. If they were on the other end of the spectrum they wouldn't think the same. How can someone have an objective view when money is clouding their judgement? If you make all your decisions based on what will make you the most money, you aren't in this for the long term.
                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                  • 12clicks
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 19814
                                                    #163
                                                    Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                    Such "tribesmen" only have such views because its profitable to them. If they were on the other end of the spectrum they wouldn't think the same. How can someone have an objective view when money is clouding their judgement? If you make all your decisions based on what will make you the most money, you aren't in this for the long term.
                                                    considering the people doing it have been around the longest and are some of the biggest, you're mistaken.
                                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                      • RogerV
                                                        Banned!
                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                        • 12591
                                                        #164
                                                        Originally posted by onlymovies
                                                        umm...lets see here....maybe that's because 90% of the paysite members sections suck big fat cocks?? Most members sections are laughable at best.




                                                        This is why...it's because free porn works. And it works especially well for sites that actually have "something of value" to offer...it's a winning combination. There's tons of money in free porn, but it's got to be matched up with the right product.

                                                        Free porn + the value of sites/programs suchs as Brazzers, Twistys, Movieroom, NScash, FTV, Karups, Braincash, Bangbros = BIG TIME recurring $$$$$$$$.
                                                        What I ment to say is Free hardcore porn limit what they can see free. I understand teasing the surfer but now and days they get off for free. ask any one of your friends not in the biz

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                                                          • BradShaw
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                            • 7840
                                                            #165
                                                            1997-2007 how much longer term do the sheep want?
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                                                              • cranki
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                • 5162
                                                                #166
                                                                Originally posted by PunkRockXXX
                                                                no comments from weg?
                                                                I was thinking the same, 4 pages and no comment for far...

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                                                                  • CE_Rashaan
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                                    • 937
                                                                    #167





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                                                                      • RogerV
                                                                        Banned!
                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                        • 12591
                                                                        #168
                                                                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                        What a short sighted opinion. They make people lots of money so shut up. Who knows what kind of shape the industry might in today if surfers would actually trust they won't get fucked when they sign up.
                                                                        Back in the day pre 2000 people did pay when there wasn?t as much free hardcore out there etc. but they still canceled because the reality of this biz its a impulse buy. they wack off then they get upset they had to pay for it. guilty feelings I guess.
                                                                        Members areas had more Porn then you new what to do with. But the paysite owners back then realized no mater what you have people will still cancel.

                                                                        I don?t know anyone who likes to pay for porn no matter how good you think yours is. Even when I purchase a movie in a hotel I feel like shit once I?ve taken care of business and ask myself why I just paid for it.

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                                                                          • BlackCrayon
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                            • 19634
                                                                            #169
                                                                            Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                            1997-2007 how much longer term do the sheep want?
                                                                            Wow 10 years. And the first 5 don't even count because the net was so new it was a free for all. Anyone could open a site and make money. Talk to me in 25 years. If you think you can keep sucking people dry forever, i personally think you're mistaken. Eventually the well will run dry.

                                                                            When/if i open my own sites i'd rather build up a solid recurring base of customers rather than try and get what i could in one month. If your system is based on that your members area must suck. People are recurring less than ever..why? Because they can get much more porn for free than paying 40 err sorry 100 bucks a month for it. Would people be going to such methods to avoid paying for porn if they didn't get fucked on subscriptions over and over again? Who knows, its possible.
                                                                            you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                              • BlackCrayon
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                • 19634
                                                                                #170
                                                                                Originally posted by RogerV
                                                                                Back in the day pre 2000 people did pay when there wasn?t as much free hardcore out there etc. but they still canceled because the reality of this biz its a impulse buy. they wack off then they get upset they had to pay for it. guilty feelings I guess.
                                                                                Members areas had more Porn then you new what to do with. But the paysite owners back then realized no mater what you have people will still cancel.

                                                                                I don?t know anyone who likes to pay for porn no matter how good you think yours is. Even when I purchase a movie in a hotel I feel like shit once I?ve taken care of business and ask myself why I just paid for it.
                                                                                Sure, no one really wants to pay for porn, no one really wants to pay for anything but just looking at numbers the length people would recurr back in 99 compared to now are very different.
                                                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                  • 12clicks
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 19814
                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                    Wow 10 years.
                                                                                    said the guy who's been here 4yrs
                                                                                    Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                    Talk to me in 25 years.
                                                                                    said the same guy
                                                                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                      • RogerV
                                                                                        Banned!
                                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                                        • 12591
                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                        Sure, no one really wants to pay for porn, no one really wants to pay for anything but just looking at numbers the length people would recurr back in 99 compared to now are very different.
                                                                                        No the numbers are the same. And people have there basic bills they have to pay for monthly. Porn is an impluse buy. People will continue to buy it but now there is so much free hardcore they dont have too.

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                                                                                          • pocketkangaroo
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                                            • 8452
                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            Originally posted by esnem
                                                                                            Since I like Shap a lot, it makes it hard for me to comment in this thread...However, Canadians living in Bermuda really gave up their rights to complain to the FTC a long time ago. So please shut the fuck up with that FTC shit.

                                                                                            The rest of the trolls up in arms over other companies billing models need to realize that WEG has made more people more money in this industry than you will ever be able to imagine. RichC said it best.

                                                                                            This friendly, magical 'industry' that a lot of you think exists, doesn't. Nobody likes you, go home to not making any money on your 50/50 revshare split.
                                                                                            My comment had nothing to do with WEG. You apparently didn't even read what was quoted.

                                                                                            My comment was in regards to popping up a billing page over another billing page which is clearly intended to deceive users and steal from websites. It had nothing to do with WEG. Here is the post I was quoting: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...0#post13191870

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                                                                                              • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                • 19634
                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                Originally posted by RogerV
                                                                                                No the numbers are the same. And people have there basic bills they have to pay for monthly. Porn is an impluse buy. People will continue to buy it but now there is so much free hardcore they dont have too.
                                                                                                If you're numbers are the same thats great. Mine sure as hell aren't. I used to have people recurr for years now I'm lucky if they go past the initial month.
                                                                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                  • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                    • 19634
                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                    said the guy who's been here 4yrs

                                                                                                    said the same guy
                                                                                                    lol what does my gfy join date have to do with anything? I haven't run a program but have been promoting programs since 98.
                                                                                                    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                      • pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                                                                        • 8452
                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        Sorry, here is the post:

                                                                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=13...&postcount=117

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                                                                                                          • RayVega
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                                                            • 4212
                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            I wouldn't call it a scam, but the FTC may. Universal Media Group (owber of High Society, and I think swank and other magazines) got a $10,000,000 fine for this same type of billing option. I met with them on a deal a couple years ago and they refuse to deal with websites because they were so gun-shy.
                                                                                                            Ray "The Don" Vega

                                                                                                            Managing Director
                                                                                                            Private Equity Fund

                                                                                                            [email protected]

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                                                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                • 30307
                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                Originally posted by RayVega
                                                                                                                I wouldn't call it a scam, but the FTC may. Universal Media Group (owber of High Society, and I think swank and other magazines) got a $10,000,000 fine for this same type of billing option. I met with them on a deal a couple years ago and they refuse to deal with websites because they were so gun-shy.

                                                                                                                They were doing something very different dude.

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                                                                                                                  • brand0n
                                                                                                                    been very busy
                                                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                    • 26983
                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by MatrixRashaan





                                                                                                                    didnt your company give another company full access to its buyers list?

                                                                                                                    people in glass houses....
                                                                                                                    want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                                                                      • RayVega
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                        • 4212
                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by RogerV
                                                                                                                        No the numbers are the same. And people have there basic bills they have to pay for monthly. Porn is an impulse buy. People will continue to buy it but now there is so much free hardcore they dont have too.

                                                                                                                        Roger,
                                                                                                                        I have to agree with you. Although the execution changes, the dollar amount put into the industry stays the same. people will always buy porn. When rebills slow down, you have to switch your plan of attack and do something different like pre-checked cross sells etc. There are always people who like to say the sky is falling. Maybe it's not as brainless as it was to make a living in this biz, but it is still there if you use your head.
                                                                                                                        Ray "The Don" Vega

                                                                                                                        Managing Director
                                                                                                                        Private Equity Fund

                                                                                                                        [email protected]

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                                                                                                                          • esnem
                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                            Such "tribesmen" only have such views because its profitable to them. If they were on the other end of the spectrum they wouldn't think the same. How can someone have an objective view when money is clouding their judgement? If you make all your decisions based on what will make you the most money, you aren't in this for the long term.
                                                                                                                            other end of the spectrum, as in the not making money end of the spectrum and you're mad that other people are?

                                                                                                                            i'd be interested to know how you are monetizing all of your 'quality' domains. if you're parking them, please shoot yourself now because you will get owned in this thread. seriously.

                                                                                                                            i'm sorry, but who are you to determine where the state of this industry should be? did you bring your notebook to the last internext billing seminar?

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                                                                                                                              • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                • 3277
                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                I wonder what their views on abortion are?

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                                                                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                    best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 30307
                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by RayVega
                                                                                                                                    When rebills slow down, you have to switch your plan of attack and do something different like pre-checked cross sells etc.

                                                                                                                                    WRONG....

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                                                                                                                                      • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 3277
                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Let me start the list of companies paying per signup, $30 or more, for a free/low dollar trial without a prechecked cross sale:





















































                                                                                                                                        feel free to add to my list..

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                                                                                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 19814
                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                            Let me start the list of companies paying per signup, $30 or more, for a free/low dollar trial without a prechecked cross sale:





















































                                                                                                                                            feel free to add to my list..
                                                                                                                                            you forgot a couple, here:











































                                                                                                                                            ok. that about covers it.
                                                                                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                              • quantum-x
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 6863
                                                                                                                                                #186
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by uno


                                                                                                                                                Need... to... breathe...



                                                                                                                                                Yes Shap, please take business advice from Alien. We all know how miserably you have failed at everything you do and could sure use his priceless advice.

                                                                                                                                                Hey what's up uno?
                                                                                                                                                PrettyInCash.com - BoozedGFs.com - TeenGFs.com - JizzGFs.com- MilfUploads.com -

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                                                                                                                                                  • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 19634
                                                                                                                                                    #187
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by esnem
                                                                                                                                                    other end of the spectrum, as in the not making money end of the spectrum and you're mad that other people are?

                                                                                                                                                    i'd be interested to know how you are monetizing all of your 'quality' domains. if you're parking them, please shoot yourself now because you will get owned in this thread. seriously.

                                                                                                                                                    i'm sorry, but who are you to determine where the state of this industry should be? did you bring your notebook to the last internext billing seminar?
                                                                                                                                                    All i am saying is these people have those views because it benefits them. The end. And me parking domains ( which i don't often do) doesn't end up costing someone 100 bucks when they think they are signing up to something that is free or at most, 40 bucks. I have no problem with cross sales, hell i don't care if programs use pre checked crosssales, the only point i was trying to make was the only reason these people agree with such methods is because it benefits them.

                                                                                                                                                    There is no denying that pre checked cross sales rely on those who forget or don't see them. No one (or a very very small percentage) is going to join 3 sites at once, 2 of which they have never seen.
                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by BlackCrayon; 10-05-2007, 11:34 AM.
                                                                                                                                                    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                                      • [illnet]-Romeo
                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 1207
                                                                                                                                                        #188
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                        When/if i open my own sites
                                                                                                                                                        Enough said.. The rest is pure babble and it's obvious you have no clue what you're talking about.
                                                                                                                                                        Brian C aka Romeo
                                                                                                                                                        JBWebCash.com
                                                                                                                                                        Brian at Jbwebcash.com

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                                                                                                                                                          • BradShaw
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                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 7840
                                                                                                                                                            #189
                                                                                                                                                            When/IF I land on the moon..........................

                                                                                                                                                            When/IF I win the lottery...............................
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                                                                                                                                                              • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                • 19634
                                                                                                                                                                #190
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by [illnet]-Romeo
                                                                                                                                                                Enough said.. The rest is pure babble and it's obvious you have no clue what you're talking about.
                                                                                                                                                                If you believe that pre checked cross sales will make people buy more porn then you've spent too much time spouting your own shit so much you believe it.
                                                                                                                                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                                                  • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 19634
                                                                                                                                                                    #191
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                                                                                                    When/IF I land on the moon..........................

                                                                                                                                                                    When/IF I win the lottery...............................
                                                                                                                                                                    I have more than enough money to start my own program. Not that its any of your concern but ratios the way they are, i would rather invest my money elsewhere.
                                                                                                                                                                    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                                                      • tigerallenyim
                                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                        • 142
                                                                                                                                                                        #192
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                                                                                                        I hate arguments on GFY where I happen to like both people arguing and can't get involved.
                                                                                                                                                                        You should put in ur 2 cents. That's what this is forum is for.

                                                                                                                                                                        As far as Shap goes, it's a valid post, and people should read. I really don't think he's targeting the Program, he's just wondering how is it possible in regards to the CB thing.

                                                                                                                                                                        Tiger

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                                                                                                                                                                          • esnem
                                                                                                                                                                            #193
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                                            All i am saying is these people have those views because it benefits them.
                                                                                                                                                                            you sir, are correct. the truth in your statement deserves to be read and re-read.

                                                                                                                                                                            you should equate your statement with the likes of 'the sky is blue' and 'mutt is a fucking idiot if he thinks he can fuck with me on this level and should stick to clicking the button on a camera, developing solo girl sites and paying out 50%'. i hear the scrub is a bitch.

                                                                                                                                                                            fuck you mutt, learn who you're talking to before you post. i have employees who make more money than you.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                • 19634
                                                                                                                                                                                #194
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by esnem
                                                                                                                                                                                you sir, are correct. the truth in your statement deserves to be read and re-read.

                                                                                                                                                                                you should equate your statement with the likes of 'the sky is blue' and 'mutt is a fucking idiot if he thinks he can fuck with me on this level and should stick to clicking the button on a camera, developing solo girl sites and paying out 50%'. i hear the scrub is a bitch.

                                                                                                                                                                                fuck you mutt, learn who you're talking to before you post. i have employees who make more money than you.
                                                                                                                                                                                There is truth in this statement too
                                                                                                                                                                                There is no denying that pre checked cross sales rely on those who forget or don't see them. No one (or a very very small percentage) is going to join 3 sites at once, 2 of which they have never seen.
                                                                                                                                                                                I know why they do though, so they can keep up the payouts and make some profit for themselves too. I can understand but its not gonna help make anyone who falls for it a returning customer.
                                                                                                                                                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • sextoyking
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 6034
                                                                                                                                                                                    #195
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by esnem
                                                                                                                                                                                    you sir, are correct. the truth in your statement deserves to be read and re-read.

                                                                                                                                                                                    you should equate your statement with the likes of 'the sky is blue' and 'mutt is a fucking idiot if he thinks he can fuck with me on this level and should stick to clicking the button on a camera, developing solo girl sites and paying out 50%'. i hear the scrub is a bitch.

                                                                                                                                                                                    fuck you mutt, learn who you're talking to before you post. i have employees who make more money than you.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Damm that was a bit rough - I used to be that way before I got my anger / control issues in order.... Mutt is an ok fellow btw..

                                                                                                                                                                                    Shalom

                                                                                                                                                                                    Todd
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • esnem
                                                                                                                                                                                        #196
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by sextoyking
                                                                                                                                                                                        Damm that was a bit rough - I used to be that way before I got my anger / control issues in order.... Mutt is an ok fellow btw..

                                                                                                                                                                                        Shalom

                                                                                                                                                                                        Todd
                                                                                                                                                                                        i know he is, but he pissed me off with his statement.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 19814
                                                                                                                                                                                            #197
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by tigerallenyim
                                                                                                                                                                                            he's just wondering how is it possible in regards to the CB thing.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Tiger
                                                                                                                                                                                            while you're still up his ass can you also pull out the explaination for the use of the word "scam"?
                                                                                                                                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • BV
                                                                                                                                                                                                wtf
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 10914
                                                                                                                                                                                                #198
                                                                                                                                                                                                You can either fuck your customers or take care of them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                How much repeat business do you want?

                                                                                                                                                                                                Do you need it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sly
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Let's do some business!
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 31379
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                                                                                                                    This all seems like déjà vu... I remember this argument from four years ago when I just started. I remember the free porn argument. And the Visa argument. And the Ashcroft argument.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sly
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Let's do some business!
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 31379
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #200
                                                                                                                                                                                                        I forgot Gonzalez...
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