Torrent Site that Won't Take Down Stolen Content

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  • commonsense
    So Fucking Banned
    • Feb 2007
    • 1790
    #51
    I love those that think anyone is untouchable.



    And any of you stupid fucks living in those countries, or operating similar illegal sites should keep your mouths shut, stay under the radar and make the money while you can. All good things (and bad) come to an end at some point.

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      • gideongallery
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2003
        • 7082
        #52
        Originally posted by chadknowslaw
        Here is their first response:

        Dear Mr Belville


        thank you for your request.

        Our Customers have full root access to their servers. Unfortunately we are not able to do something against such activities.
        good for them
        you should be sending them notices that are complient with the German = of the DMCA

        and not trying to force them to obey American Laws

        “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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          • pudcat
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2003
            • 1169
            #53
            Originally posted by gideongallery
            good for them
            you should be sending them notices that are complient with the German = of the DMCA

            and not trying to force them to obey American Laws
            I was just going to ask basically the exact same question, why should they be paying any attention to a DMCA notice? (of course I'm asking from a legal perspective not a common sense stolen content one) it appears they're fully outside of the US... The bandwidth providers on the other hand may pay some attention.
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              • chadknowslaw
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2004
                • 343
                #54
                The simplified answer is international cooperation in enforcement of intellectual property. Most countries, including Germany and the US, do have an operational treaty or agreement that each will recognize the intellectual property rights conferred by the other at some level.
                Thus, if a German producer sends a notice to a US host that his stolen German content is being hosted on the US host, the US host will take that down.
                ChadKnowsLaw

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                  • gideongallery
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 7082
                    #55
                    Originally posted by chadknowslaw
                    The simplified answer is international cooperation in enforcement of intellectual property. Most countries, including Germany and the US, do have an operational treaty or agreement that each will recognize the intellectual property rights conferred by the other at some level.
                    Thus, if a German producer sends a notice to a US host that his stolen German content is being hosted on the US host, the US host will take that down.

                    are you talking about the Berne Convention
                    because if you are there is a massive difference between recognizing "intellectual property rights" (your trademark/patent/copyright registered in your country is valid UNDER my countries laws)
                    to your countries laws supercede my countries laws.

                    in your example a german producer would still have to send DMCA complient notice instead of his countries = because he would be respecting the validity of US laws (he also would want to since DMCA is stricter than the German =)

                    “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                      • ian_
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3
                        #56
                        contact intergenia.de they run the datacenter that server4you is based out of they will probably help you more then the techs at server4you

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                          • chadknowslaw
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 343
                            #57
                            I am not sure what really happened but the site is down -- and this message is on their page:


                            Due to a Hardware Crash we're temporary down.

                            Instead of waiting for our Provider to fix that, we're leaving to another country ( NL )
                            We're back in Approximatly 48 hours on even Faster Machines!!

                            Don't stop your Torrents.. leave your Clients ONLINE.. so we dont loose our content


                            My guess is that someone that I contacted decided this was not a website they should be hosting!

                            Thank you everybody for your help and advice.
                            ChadKnowsLaw

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                              • Aussie Rebel
                                Blow Me U Geeks
                                • Aug 2001
                                • 5108
                                #58
                                Originally posted by chadknowslaw
                                I am not sure what really happened but the site is down -- and this message is on their page:


                                Due to a Hardware Crash we're temporary down.

                                Instead of waiting for our Provider to fix that, we're leaving to another country ( NL )
                                We're back in Approximatly 48 hours on even Faster Machines!!

                                Don't stop your Torrents.. leave your Clients ONLINE.. so we dont loose our content


                                My guess is that someone that I contacted decided this was not a website they should be hosting!

                                Thank you everybody for your help and advice.
                                Great news mate

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                                  • chadknowslaw
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 343
                                    #59
                                    Unless they really DID have a hardware crash that was so awful and that servers4you just could not handle that the accused thieves had to move their operation to another country..........


                                    What host will have this site next week??
                                    ChadKnowsLaw

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                                      • stev0
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2003
                                        • 6801
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by JMM
                                        Why not go after the advertisers and set some precedent for contributory or vicarious infringement.

                                        Without the advertisers, these sites cease to exist.
                                        Well... They would still exist, but at least they wouldn't be collecting a paycheque off someone elses work. Piracy on the net was around long before dating affiliate programs.

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                                          • chadknowslaw
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2004
                                            • 343
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by stev0
                                            Well... They would still exist, but at least they wouldn't be collecting a paycheque off someone elses work. Piracy on the net was around long before dating affiliate programs.

                                            I think piracy has been around since the invention of paper~
                                            ChadKnowsLaw

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                                              • tony299
                                                lurker
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 57021
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by stev0
                                                Well... They would still exist, but at least they wouldn't be collecting a paycheque off someone elses work. Piracy on the net was around long before dating affiliate programs.
                                                Yes but it was piracy in another form, now its paid for with ads thats the only way they can make money off of it. Any processing they get is killed pretty quickly. Its not like the guy on the corner selling knocks off for cash.Kill the ads you kill the cash flow. Now someone wants to make a BT full of content they paid to produce and give it away more power to them.

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