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  • DamageX
    Marketing & Strategy
    • Jun 2001
    • 14293
    #51
    Originally posted by RawAlex
    It's why I have the previous version instead of the current version, because I won't just download it and say "fuck them". But at the same time, they aren't getting my money for the moment because they are pricing themselves out of the market to make up for all the sales lost to piracy, downloading, and those "$29.95 Adobe Suite" spam mails.

    Timbo, you need to tap your moral compass a bit, It's sticking. Take a list of all of the videos on the pages you ads appear on. At the next show, walk up to each of them and explain to owners of those videos personally why you are using their stolen content to make money.

    If you can't see yourself doing it, then you know it isn't right.
    Yeah, like that's gonna happen...
    Whitehat is for chumps

    If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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      • fris
        I have to go potty
        • Aug 2002
        • 55805
        #52
        i hear a thumbzilla ban
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          • »Rob Content«
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2006
            • 4348
            #53
            Originally posted by VG.Content
            Does this mean we won't see them on thumbzilla, and any of your other traffic sites?


            Isn't it also nice that Phoenix thinks your traffic is useless?
            page 2 should have this.. what do you think shap?

            80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
            3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
            >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557


            ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom

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              • »Rob Content«
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2006
                • 4348
                #54
                Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                You'd be surprised...
                Torrents can be excruciatingly slow sometimes

                For everyone getting moral, let me ask this: how many of you have paid for the copy of photoshop sitting on your computer?
                I own my copy of photoshop, can you take the links down now please? thanks

                80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
                3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
                >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557


                ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom

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                  • Matt Collins
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2005
                    • 1060
                    #55
                    Content theft is one of the biggest threats to our business and it is incumbent for all of us to work to fight this common enemy.

                    Let's face it, if surfers can get all of Lightspeed's member's areas from a torrent site, then my RevShare Hosting webmasters have nothing to sell. While I know Steve fights for his rights daily, it is really frustrating to see affiliate programs supporting the very thing that threatens our livelihood.

                    The good news is that the movie, music and software people are fighting just as hard as we are so its a common cause. Again though, we all should do our part. Its damn hard to support Python when they are threatening my livelihood.

                    Matt
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                      • Kram
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 666
                        #56
                        Originally posted by pr0
                        You my friend are an idiot ...

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                          • Shap
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2001
                            • 8313
                            #57
                            Originally posted by VG.Content
                            Does this mean we won't see them on thumbzilla, and any of your other traffic sites?


                            Isn't it also nice that Phoenix thinks your traffic is useless?
                            Absolutely!

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                              • Shap
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2001
                                • 8313
                                #58
                                Originally posted by Fris
                                i hear a thumbzilla ban
                                More traffic for you

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                                  • DamageX
                                    Marketing & Strategy
                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 14293
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by Shap
                                    Absolutely!
                                    You just brought a tear to my eye...
                                    Whitehat is for chumps

                                    If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                      • »Rob Content«
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2006
                                        • 4348
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by Shap
                                        Absolutely!
                                        I look forward to doing some business with you

                                        80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
                                        3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
                                        >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557


                                        ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom

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                                          • Shap
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2001
                                            • 8313
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by VG.Content
                                            I look forward to doing some business with you
                                            It's going to take some time to clear everything out however I'm truly fed up of this shit and it's going to get done.

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                                              • Aussie Rebel
                                                Blow Me U Geeks
                                                • Aug 2001
                                                • 5108
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by Shap
                                                It's going to take some time to clear everything out however I'm truly fed up of this shit and it's going to get done.

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                                                  • Klen
                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                    • 32234
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by Matt Collins
                                                    Content theft is one of the biggest threats to our business and it is incumbent for all of us to work to fight this common enemy.

                                                    Let's face it, if surfers can get all of Lightspeed's member's areas from a torrent site, then my RevShare Hosting webmasters have nothing to sell. While I know Steve fights for his rights daily, it is really frustrating to see affiliate programs supporting the very thing that threatens our livelihood.

                                                    The good news is that the movie, music and software people are fighting just as hard as we are so its a common cause. Again though, we all should do our part. Its damn hard to support Python when they are threatening my livelihood.

                                                    Matt
                                                    Is that mean dollarpimp it will not be supported anymore by revsharehosting?Since dollarpimp is have same owner as python.

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                                                      • Matt Collins
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2005
                                                        • 1060
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                        Is that mean dollarpimp it will not be supported anymore by revsharehosting?Since dollarpimp is have same owner as python.

                                                        I can't say that I've ever made a sponsor decision based on where that particular sponsor buys their ads. I don't want to dodge your question as it's really very fair and something I will have to give some real thought about.

                                                        I have, on the other hand, rejected affiliate programs that are based on selling memberships to stolen content sites and I will continue to do so. I felt that was an easy decision to make and feel very strongly on that point.

                                                        Anyway, good question...

                                                        Matt
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                                                          • Timbo
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                            • 550
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Shap
                                                            Exactly what I expected. Unbelievable how many pieces of shit are in our industry.

                                                            It really sucks to be Timbo. The only people he can get to promote his crap are content thieves. It must suck to try and be a big baller yet not have enough money to get real affiliates or produce your own content.

                                                            That was good Shap, thanks. Very entertaining.
                                                            Now for a clue. You know jack shit. That is all.

                                                            Oh btw, everybody else b sure to sign to APM and get paid $70 per join this Friday!

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                                                              • c-lo
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2005
                                                                • 925
                                                                #66
                                                                As an APM affiliate, I would be most grateful if you guys would discontinue funding thieves.

                                                                Thanks.
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                                                                  • Papillon
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Sep 2007
                                                                    • 254
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by Timbo
                                                                    I don't consider it weak. As far as content goes, we do our part. We support content providers, by buying shitloads of their product. We don't shoot our own. Never have. I'll be back tomorrow. Still waiting to hear from our webmasters.
                                                                    Holy fuck what a pathetic mother fucker. Heres a response from a webmaster that joined your program the first week of its inception. Im pulling all your links and I hope you rot in hell.
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                                                                      • SykkBoy2
                                                                        Jesus loves bacon
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 19969
                                                                        #68
                                                                        If we're so bad, why are content providers hitting me up on ICQ to sell me content?

                                                                        If you have a moral problem with this, are you saying it's still ok to take money from us? You'll complain about it on message boards and then say "hey, when are you going to buy some content from me?"
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                                                                          • Klen
                                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                                            • 32234
                                                                            #69
                                                                            I remember when i inform shaft(phyton) about similar thread like this one he only said how bad is and that's it.No response from him in that thread.

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                                                                              • Papillon
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Sep 2007
                                                                                • 254
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                                If we're so bad, why are content providers hitting me up on ICQ to sell me content?

                                                                                If you have a moral problem with this, are you saying it's still ok to take money from us? You'll complain about it on message boards and then say "hey, when are you going to buy some content from me?"
                                                                                I am really surprised to hear you guys respond like this. All I can say is karma is a real bitch dude and what goes around comes around. Enjoy.
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                                                                                  • SykkBoy2
                                                                                    Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 19969
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by Papillon
                                                                                    I am really surprised to hear you guys respond like this. All I can say is karma is a real bitch dude and what goes around comes around. Enjoy.
                                                                                    What? A content provider, in this thread bitching, is hitting me up to buy content from him. If I buy content from him, isn't he taking "dirty money"? Wouldn't he be indirectly profiting from something he finds morally wrong?
                                                                                    Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

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                                                                                      • Papillon
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Sep 2007
                                                                                        • 254
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        You need a coffee or something dude your brain is not working today. I have absolutely no doubt some scumbag content provider is hitting you up to sell you content. This industry is full of them.

                                                                                        The point is this. You are fucking your webmasters and the industry by supporting this sort of criminal activity. Why the fuck would you support this kind of shit? Just because its not your content doesn't make it right. You are supporting thieves man.

                                                                                        Anyways if you need it explained to you you are either a fucking idiot or completely aware of what you are doing and you simply dont give a fuck. I suspect its the later which is why you will find anyone with any sort of a backbone wont tolerate this blatant bullshit. I sure as hell won't be.

                                                                                        Links get pulled today never to be promoted again.
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                                                                                          • DS250
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • May 2007
                                                                                            • 411
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            I admit I usually only get on here to flame people and stir up shit but i am going to be serious here for a second. I still push a large amount of what you would call legitimate traffic and I have since 2000 or so. I have been ripped off by countless payment processors and affiliate programs for tens of thousands of dollars. Most of you would stab each other in the back for a buck so you should save your outrage because it is useless. The adult internet industry didn't get it's shitty reputation undeservedly. Whether or not you like it the tube torrent and file sharing sites aren't going anywhere. You can either choose to find a way to profit off it or you will end up like all of the big tgp sites with their traffic and sales numbers taking a fucking nose dive. You might succeed in hurting one or two but 10 more will pop up in their place. You are sticking your finger in the leaking hole of a dam that is about to crumble.

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                                                                                              • Papillon
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Sep 2007
                                                                                                • 254
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by DS250
                                                                                                I admit I usually only get on here to flame people and stir up shit but i am going to be serious here for a second. I still push a large amount of what you would call legitimate traffic and I have since 2000 or so. I have been ripped off by countless payment processors and affiliate programs for tens of thousands of dollars. Most of you would stab each other in the back for a buck so you should save your outrage because it is useless. The adult internet industry didn't get it's shitty reputation undeservedly. Whether or not you like it the tube torrent and file sharing sites aren't going anywhere. You can either choose to find a way to profit off it or you will end up like all of the big tgp sites with their traffic and sales numbers taking a fucking nose dive. You might succeed in hurting one or two but 10 more will pop up in their place. You are sticking your finger in the leaking hole of a dam that is about to crumble.
                                                                                                I def hear ya there but I dont have to be a part of it. If a sponsor is going to announce they support content theft then I am not going to send them my traffic. Simple.
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                                                                                                  • DS250
                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                    • May 2007
                                                                                                    • 411
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Papillon
                                                                                                    I def hear ya there but I dont have to be a part of it. If a sponsor is going to announce they support content theft then I am not going to send them my traffic. Simple.
                                                                                                    You might feel that way but you are only hurting yourself. The traffic they receive from these sites is far more than what they might lose from a few pissed off affiliates that decide to pull links and most of the affiliates actually won't. And if you don't believe torrent tube file sharing traffic is profitable you are dead wrong.

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                                                                                                      • Aussie Rebel
                                                                                                        Blow Me U Geeks
                                                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                                                        • 5108
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Still nothing from python?

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                                                                                                          • KrisKross
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                                                                            • 5025
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                                                            You'd be surprised...
                                                                                                            Torrents can be excruciatingly slow sometimes

                                                                                                            For everyone getting moral, let me ask this: how many of you have paid for the copy of photoshop sitting on your computer?
                                                                                                            I don't use Photoshop, but I did pay for the copy of Paint Shop Pro on my PC.

                                                                                                            Regardless, others' hypocrisy (or lack thereof) doesn't justify your program's support of content theft.

                                                                                                            Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                                                            If we're so bad, why are content providers hitting me up on ICQ to sell me content?

                                                                                                            If you have a moral problem with this, are you saying it's still ok to take money from us? You'll complain about it on message boards and then say "hey, when are you going to buy some content from me?"
                                                                                                            Sykk, you're not this dense. Stop being someone else's puppet.

                                                                                                            Content providers make money on a one time deal. Once they've sold their package, it makes no difference who downloads their content and how it gets downloaded.

                                                                                                            And again, their hypocrisy still doesn't justify your program's support of content theft.

                                                                                                            Seriously, you're really not this dumb. Stop it.

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                                                                                                              • Aussie Rebel
                                                                                                                Blow Me U Geeks
                                                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                • 5108
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Bump so python see's this

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                                                                                                                  • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                    March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                    • 20295
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    LOL I should open up a torrent site just for shits and giggles. The furor it creates on this board is downright funny.
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                                                                                                                      • Corona
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                        • 2185
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Timbo
                                                                                                                        :

                                                                                                                        Oh btw, everybody else b sure to sign to APM and get paid $70 per join this Friday!
                                                                                                                        When a sponsor shows a lack of ethics in one area why should I trust them not to fuck me over as well?
                                                                                                                        I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
                                                                                                                        And heaven knows I'm miserable now

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                                                                                                                          • Rui
                                                                                                                            web
                                                                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                            • 9533
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                            Did you even bother contacting the sponsors to notify them before making this thread? Chances are they don't even know about these sites.
                                                                                                                            WG
                                                                                                                            Yeah that must be it!

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                                                                                                                              • Rui
                                                                                                                                web
                                                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                • 9533
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                SykkBoy2 - So I assume you endorse the use of all your sites content for promotion of content theft and push other programs, nice!

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                                                                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                    best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 30307
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    For some reason ya guys think that companies that are promoted on Places like Web boards, and video sites some how sponsor content theft.

                                                                                                                                    I still do not get this concept. If you see content that is yours being stolen its on you to recoup on the matter, hell maybe provide more content to those places, provide for them to generate sales to your program verses the ones smart enough to know where the traffic is going these days. Authorise them to use content you allow them to and gain an affiliate.


                                                                                                                                    Ya people will never ever beat content theft, the only way around this is to be sure to have a link on sites that appearently take content, Email them ask em to become and affilaite and give them shit to promote you.

                                                                                                                                    Brand all your content.

                                                                                                                                    Let me repeat...

                                                                                                                                    None of you will ever ever ever beat content theft. It's a fact.
                                                                                                                                    The sooner it is realised maybe the sooner you can find ways to benefit from it.

                                                                                                                                    I do not engage in Content theft to promote, but the fucken genie is out of the lamp and has been on the loose for quite sometime.

                                                                                                                                    Adapt.
                                                                                                                                    Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-03-2007, 01:52 AM.

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                                                                                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 30307
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        I remember people whinning about TGP's a long time ago, supposedly TGP's were the deathnail of the industry, and I guess to a Degree it was, this industry is constantly dieing a little every day.

                                                                                                                                        However it does not mean things can not be worked with or figured out.

                                                                                                                                        I will go a little bit further int he history of Destructive TGP's.

                                                                                                                                        TGP's were said to utilise stolen content, redivert traffic, shave one another, use hit bots and all manor of scummy shit. They didnt kill the industry it hurt but it didnt kill it. Another fact is this industry is not going to die because of fucking Video Sites, or Web boards that post stolen content.

                                                                                                                                        News groups were out before any of this shit was and people were able to to download all manor of content they wanted from News Groups, come to think of it, people still do!

                                                                                                                                        Why not wage a war against News groups? they been around longer than video sites and frankly better than video sites, and web boards.

                                                                                                                                        Why not go all the way to the top of the matter and knock off Usenet? Odd's are they got more stolen content than anyone running some stupid video sites.

                                                                                                                                        Stolen content is not right but it is a fact, and I believe the generation of video sites is no different than what TGP's were back in the day when everyone talked mad shit about them comming into the scene.

                                                                                                                                        TGP's still do the scummy shit since 1996 and even worse. the video sites are just a step faster than TGP's. It's the next generation for free entertainment.

                                                                                                                                        Work with it because really you got no choice.

                                                                                                                                        Some people bucked TGP's and they lost money because of it.
                                                                                                                                        Sure they slammed the guys running TGP's, but after while they figured out how to make money with them. TGP webmasters were the scum of the earth at one time....

                                                                                                                                        Just like VIdeo site guys are today, but i can guarantee you they will be the new winners and heroes tomarrow.
                                                                                                                                        Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-03-2007, 02:05 AM.

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                                                                                                                                          • fuckingfuck
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • May 2007
                                                                                                                                            • 521
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Adapt?

                                                                                                                                            How? By creating an even bigger torrent site with more free full films to download?

                                                                                                                                            That's the most idiotic thing people keep writing.
                                                                                                                                            AA

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                                                                                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                                best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                • 30307
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Adn lastly...

                                                                                                                                                Shap, even you were a TGP webmaster back in the day and still to this day.
                                                                                                                                                Albeit a good one that was and still fair but still...

                                                                                                                                                You are one of the guys that forced other companies to give you content for free and you took it and used it to make a buck.
                                                                                                                                                Some people would not go to promote on TGP's and you know and I know they are the guys that lost money while you made deals with companies and webmaster's that submitted content and ended up pulling out ahead.

                                                                                                                                                Sure it was shitty then but it is still no different than today.
                                                                                                                                                Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-03-2007, 02:13 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                                    best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 30307
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by fuckingfuck
                                                                                                                                                    Adapt?

                                                                                                                                                    How? By creating an even bigger torrent site with more free full films to download?

                                                                                                                                                    That's the most idiotic thing people keep writing.
                                                                                                                                                    If you are to stupid to not be able to figure out how after what I said above you might want to just hit up Wendy's tomarrow.

                                                                                                                                                    Cuz you are not cut out for this game.

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                                                                                                                                                      • Aussie Rebel
                                                                                                                                                        Blow Me U Geeks
                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 5108
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                                        Adn lastly...

                                                                                                                                                        Shap, even you were a TGP webmaster back in the day and still to this day.
                                                                                                                                                        Albeit a good one that was and still fair but still...

                                                                                                                                                        You are one of the guys that forced other companies to give you content for free and you took it and used it to make a buck.
                                                                                                                                                        Some people would not go to promote on TGP's and you know and I know they are the guys that lost money while you made deals with companies and webmaster's that submitted content and ended up pulling out ahead.

                                                                                                                                                        Sure it was shitty then but it is still no different than today.
                                                                                                                                                        Can you show me one TGP in the past that offered full site rips?

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                                                                                                                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                            • 30307
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
                                                                                                                                                            Can you show me one TGP in the past that offered full site rips?
                                                                                                                                                            Why a TGP?

                                                                                                                                                            Go check USENET.
                                                                                                                                                            Find almost any porn ya want or mainstream movie.
                                                                                                                                                            I bet one can find many TGP's that utilise stolen content still and even illegal content.

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                                                                                                                                                              • lukemason
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 31
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                I will make my stance known I am for the thread starter and agents any Co.
                                                                                                                                                                trying to Profit off the Backs of others Threw the Way of Stolen Content
                                                                                                                                                                this is just plane wrong as I sed before with AVN-Ad's/AdBright I will say it
                                                                                                                                                                here Cut this Shit out your only destroying the Industry that some of US
                                                                                                                                                                Love .

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Aussie Rebel
                                                                                                                                                                    Blow Me U Geeks
                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                    • 5108
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                                                    Why a TGP?

                                                                                                                                                                    Go check USENET.
                                                                                                                                                                    Find almost any porn ya want or mainstream movie.
                                                                                                                                                                    I bet one can find many TGP's that utilise stolen content still and even illegal content.
                                                                                                                                                                    Why TGP? Because thats what you were referring to in your other posts, And yes I agree there are tons of tgp's out there with stolen content, but none with full site rips like torrent sites have. Usenet has always been huge source for stolen content and is another problem our industry has to deal with unfortunately

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                                                                                                                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 30307
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Companies like Mega Erotic are thriving, as is places like you porn.
                                                                                                                                                                        Figure out why.
                                                                                                                                                                        Here I will tell you. The Full rip video sites, they have no income and the ones that actively steal are a faulty business model. One or two silly ad's can not hold up to the downloaded traffic.
                                                                                                                                                                        Sure they might pop up but eventually a working business model will resolve itself and that business model is to see who puts up content and pays.
                                                                                                                                                                        Those that put up content stand to win, while the ones that don't only stand to lose. Just like TGP's.

                                                                                                                                                                        Putting up content content that pays is the incentive for video sites to begin regulating. There will be more failures in the attempt but the long lasting ones are the ones that cut deal's with participating sponsors that send in content with banners everywhere.
                                                                                                                                                                        Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-03-2007, 02:34 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                                                            best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Lastly the internet is past the archive age, it has become the here and now age. If the shit is old and jaded...
                                                                                                                                                                            Even if the whole fucking site is given out for free.
                                                                                                                                                                            No one wants it anyways.

                                                                                                                                                                            Real paying customers want fresh and new and the now...
                                                                                                                                                                            Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-03-2007, 02:39 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Papillon
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                • 254
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by DS250
                                                                                                                                                                                You might feel that way but you are only hurting yourself. The traffic they receive from these sites is far more than what they might lose from a few pissed off affiliates that decide to pull links and most of the affiliates actually won't. And if you don't believe torrent tube file sharing traffic is profitable you are dead wrong.
                                                                                                                                                                                yuo have missed the point on every level

                                                                                                                                                                                please go back to sleep
                                                                                                                                                                                You WILL make more money with Loaded Cash

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Papillon
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 254
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    AlienQ - quiet possibly the dumbest mother fucker ever to hit this board.
                                                                                                                                                                                    You WILL make more money with Loaded Cash

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Papillon
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 254
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                                                                        I still do not get this concept. If you see content that is yours being stolen its on you to recoup on the matter, hell maybe provide more content to those places, provide for them to generate sales to your program verses the ones smart enough to know where the traffic is going these days. Authorise them to use content you allow them to and gain an affiliate.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Let the record show that AlienQ suggests the way to beat torrent sites is to provide them with more content.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Wow thats a genius at work right there
                                                                                                                                                                                        You WILL make more money with Loaded Cash

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                                            Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Papillon
                                                                                                                                                                                            Let the record show that AlienQ suggests the way to beat torrent sites is to provide them with more content.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Wow thats a genius at work right there
                                                                                                                                                                                            Why do you think he's broke?
                                                                                                                                                                                            Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                                                                                                            If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • u-Bob
                                                                                                                                                                                                there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                <--- taking notes

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Rui
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Papillon
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Let the record show that AlienQ suggests the way to beat torrent sites is to provide them with more content.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wow thats a genius at work right there
                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.gofuckyourself.com/profil...ignore&u=18793

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Its no even worth it to spend your time reading his posts

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Shap
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Adn lastly...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Shap, even you were a TGP webmaster back in the day and still to this day.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Albeit a good one that was and still fair but still...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        You are one of the guys that forced other companies to give you content for free and you took it and used it to make a buck.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Some people would not go to promote on TGP's and you know and I know they are the guys that lost money while you made deals with companies and webmaster's that submitted content and ended up pulling out ahead.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Sure it was shitty then but it is still no different than today.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        There is a huge difference between a tgp that displays content of a site and then sends the surfer directly to that site and a site like tnaflix that show my content and sends them to python. With your experience you should get that i would hope.

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