ATK cash shaves plain and simple ... heres proof

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  • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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    • Oct 2005
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    #1

    ATK cash shaves plain and simple ... heres proof

    http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../01/?id=102886



    click my new ccbill link .. then click join and select join by credit card

    when you get the ccbill credit card info screen hot the back key like a surfer trying to make sure he wants to join the site

    now what do you get??

    you get this shit

    http://atkingdom.review-network.com/...rough%20CCBill

    :

    good thing I check everything out before I send anything
  • Makingcoin
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2002
    • 8919

    #2
    That's a traffic leak not shaving.

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    • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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      • Oct 2005
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      #3
      i run a network of computers and its funny because the system I signed up on will take me back to the previous page like it should but whn I log into another computer and click the same links i get the razor lol

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      • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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        • Oct 2005
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        #4
        Originally posted by Makingcoin
        That's a traffic leak not shaving.
        thats not just a traffic leak.....

        thats not on an exit thats on an incomplete signup

        100% intentional

        for me a complete and utte setup like this is nothing short of shaving

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        • spacedog
          Yes that IS me. Bitch.
          • Nov 2001
          • 14149

          #5
          input type=hidden name=ccbill_referer value='1608530

          clicked your link, went straight to join, clicked credit card, got sent to another page, clicked button & view source..

          Fuckers

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          • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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            #6
            hahahahah it ust all got fixed now



            lLMAO

            goes back to the page it should now

            wow man I tell ya

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            • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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              #7
              ok its back again

              WTF

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              • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                #8
                Originally posted by spacedog
                input type=hidden name=ccbill_referer value='1608530

                clicked your link, went straight to join, clicked credit card, got sent to another page, clicked button & view source..

                Fuckers
                yeah that id ending in 530 is mine

                what im pissed about is that once a customer finaly gets to see how much the site cost ... ( 30.00 permonth )

                if they do not signup right at that very moment you lose the sale

                a lot of people will hit the backspace key just to make sure its worth 30 bucks per month

                but when they hit the back button they get a review page that you dont get credit for and it looks like the script does this to every fourth click or so

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                • Quickdraw
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1717

                  #9
                  Do they pay affiliates for the sales through 2000charge?

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                  • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Quickdraw
                    Do they pay affiliates for the sales through 2000charge?
                    2000charge?? where do you see that at??

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                    • spacedog
                      Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 14149

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pussyserver
                      yeah that id ending in 530 is mine

                      what im pissed about is that once a customer finaly gets to see how much the site cost ... ( 30.00 permonth )

                      if they do not signup right at that very moment you lose the sale

                      a lot of people will hit the backspace key just to make sure its worth 30 bucks per month

                      but when they hit the back button they get a review page that you dont get credit for and it looks like the script does this to every fourth click or so

                      My bad.. I saw id=102886 in your link above, so thought that was your id.. ok.. got ya now..


                      Still fucked up about stealing the back clicks though..

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                      • Makingcoin
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 8919

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pussyserver
                        yeah that id ending in 530 is mine

                        if they do not signup right at that very moment you lose the sale
                        If they come back and join later how are you using the sale? I am sure the surfer is cookied with your ref id.

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                        • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Makingcoin
                          If they come back and join later how are you using the sale? I am sure the surfer is cookied with your ref id.
                          in order to complete a sale with that surfer at that point he would need to come in thru my original traffic source that got him there

                          but thats unlikely seeing as how now this http://atkingdom.review-network.com/...rough%20CCBill

                          is the only window he has open

                          any and everything relating to the transaction and or path to conversion we were on has now been discarded and the surfer is given the review site

                          where I am sure he will click the free links and pic ... no credit for me

                          and is 2000 charge epoch? if not then I have no clue how I would get paid via the euro signup option either


                          I swear when my program opens you will not see any of this shit......

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                          • fuzebox
                            making it rain
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 22359

                            #14
                            I don't get this other page... my back button goes back to the tour.

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                            • crockett
                              in a van by the river
                              • May 2003
                              • 76818

                              #15
                              That's pretty BS right there.. They are a CCbill revshare program, there should be NO consoles at all on their tours. Affiliates should get ALL credit on sales no matter what route the surfer takes.

                              It's not like they are paying out $35 a sale.
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                              • pocketkangaroo
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 8452

                                #16
                                Never understood why programs do this kind of stuff. All it does is lower the conversion rates and the money affiliates make. Affiliates see that, then leave. No one who knows what they are doing would pull this crap.

                                In any case, I've blacklisted them.

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                                • »Rob Content«
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                                  • Dec 2006
                                  • 4348

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                  Never understood why programs do this kind of stuff. All it does is lower the conversion rates and the money affiliates make. Affiliates see that, then leave. No one who knows what they are doing would pull this crap.

                                  In any case, I've blacklisted them.
                                  Fully agree and blacklisted as well. Pass the word

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                                  • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by fuzebox
                                    I don't get this other page... my back button goes back to the tour.
                                    it does it after 4 clicks or so and it will not do it on my notebook .. only when I logon to my other machine ( remote desktop )

                                    im sure the script or cookie knows my webmaster PC and thus dosent show me the trick

                                    but on the other machine its a free for all

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                                    • will76
                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                      • May 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Doesn't Stuart do the programming for that site ?
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                                      • Malicious Biz
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                                        • Mar 2005
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                                        #20
                                        That's crazy stuff yo.

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                                        • Quickdraw
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                                          • Mar 2004
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pussyserver
                                          it does it after 4 clicks or so and it will not do it on my notebook .. only when I logon to my other machine ( remote desktop )

                                          im sure the script or cookie knows my webmaster PC and thus dosent show me the trick

                                          but on the other machine its a free for all
                                          There is a javascript exit pop on the ccbill join page. I had to turn off the popup blocker to see it.

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                                          • JD
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                                            • Sep 2003
                                            • 22651

                                            #22
                                            good shit!

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                                            • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Quickdraw
                                              There is a javascript exit pop on the ccbill join page. I had to turn off the popup blocker to see it.
                                              yeah I see it now

                                              im tellin ya , since another program burned me to a crisp, I check everything

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                                              • will76
                                                Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                • May 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                Doesn't Stuart do the programming for that site ?
                                                the reason why I ask is because i remember him saying recently...

                                                Originally posted by StuartD
                                                Actually, today I recoded 195 old fhg's and added in the multiple tours module in the custom affiliate software I'm writing.

                                                He seems to post here a lot. maybe he can stop in and explain whats going on.
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                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 30307

                                                  #25
                                                  Woot, never sent them a click, I must be getting good in my old age!

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                                                  • SomeCreep
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                                                    • Mar 2003
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                                                    #26
                                                    It's a shame, that a site as big as ATK does not use advanced and sophisticated affiliate software like NATS.

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                                                    • Quickdraw
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pussyserver
                                                      yeah I see it now

                                                      im tellin ya , since another program burned me to a crisp, I check everything
                                                      3 of the first 5 links lead to other ccbill id's on their 'Magazine Tours'.

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                                                      • V_RocKs
                                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 32448

                                                        #28
                                                        Yeah and 1&#37; of surfers click the back button from the join page.

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                                                        • Snake Doctor
                                                          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                          • 13449

                                                          #29
                                                          Got Milk?
                                                          sig too big

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                                                          • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                            Yeah and 1% of surfers click the back button from the join page.
                                                            where did that stat come from??

                                                            I use my back key VERY OFTEN

                                                            if I were a surfer and the only way to see how much the site cost was to click thru the signup process and I did not feel ready to spend $30.00 or wanted to preview more first.... I would hit the back key

                                                            .... where in this case I would be greeted by more free pics then I could shake my dick at

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                                                            • KrisKross
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                                                              • Jan 2006
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                              Yeah and 1% of surfers click the back button from the join page.
                                                              Even if that figure was anywhere near accurate, are you OK with losing 1% of your income?

                                                              Personally, I'd rather not lose any money.

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                                                              • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                #32
                                                                really if you look at it.. this is a dumb move even for ATK.... braincash owns the upsell console and ATK is just about giving them first chance at the sell ? the surfer has no clue what the site cost until the signup screen so if a surfer wanted to signup they would definitely have to click thru
                                                                now whether they think its to much or want to review the site more or anything? braincash immediately takes control of the surfer with the console

                                                                so the surfer gets upsold and ATK gets its cut and billy traffic guy gets sperm in his eye

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                                                                • »Rob Content«
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                  Yeah and 1% of surfers click the back button from the join page.
                                                                  So you're cool with losing one % of your money to shady biz?

                                                                  80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
                                                                  3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
                                                                  >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557


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                                                                  • will76
                                                                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                    • May 2003
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    It is too late sunday night for drama. Looks like Monday morning drama to me.
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                                                                    • crockett
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                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 76818

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by will76
                                                                      It is too late sunday night for drama. Looks like Monday morning drama to me.
                                                                      umm today was Monday and now it's Tuesday, where u been?
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                                                                      • will76
                                                                        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                        • May 2003
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by crockett
                                                                        umm today was Monday and now it's Tuesday, where u been?
                                                                        im in hawaii, its still Sunday here.



                                                                        no shit, its already tuesday. I need more sleep, lose track of the days.
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                                                                        • DamageX
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                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 14293

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Oh, the irony.
                                                                          Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                          If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                          • Nicky
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                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 30071

                                                                            #38
                                                                            We ned someone from ATK in here

                                                                            gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                            • ProjectNaked
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                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                              • 4309

                                                                              #39
                                                                              http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=772136&page=2

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                                                                              • Martin3
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                                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                                • 1529

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Don't they not allow their content on skimming sites?
                                                                                I guess it's ok for them to skim the affiliate?
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                                                                                • DamageX
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                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                  • 14293

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Martin3
                                                                                  Don't they not allow their content on skimming sites?
                                                                                  I guess it's ok for them to skim the affiliate?
                                                                                  Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                  Oh, the irony.
                                                                                  Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                  If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                  • Snake Doctor
                                                                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                                    • 13449

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Nicky
                                                                                    We ned someone from ATK in here
                                                                                    I doubt they'll show up. They don't seem interested in having affiliates at all.

                                                                                    I emailed them several months ago with a question about my link codes (I've had an account there for several years that I rarely used) and they never replied.
                                                                                    I guess they have enough money already, they don't need anymore.
                                                                                    sig too big

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                                                                                    • Nicky
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 30071

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                      I doubt they'll show up. They don't seem interested in having affiliates at all.

                                                                                      I emailed them several months ago with a question about my link codes (I've had an account there for several years that I rarely used) and they never replied.
                                                                                      I guess they have enough money already, they don't need anymore.
                                                                                      I have an account too that I'm sending abit of traffic to, I mean I WAS sending traffic to.

                                                                                      gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                                      • cheapgallerydesign
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        bumping it up

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                                                                                        • kmanrox
                                                                                          aka K-Man
                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                          • 29295

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          wouldnt the cookie already be placed so it doesnt matter if they go back and forth? just a thought
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                                                                                          • nickutis
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                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                            • 719

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I just got that popup after clicking back from ccbill form. I'm pulling all my links right now, my traffic is too good to waste it like that.
                                                                                            Last edited by nickutis; 10-02-2007, 04:38 AM. Reason: typos

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                                                                                            • DamageX
                                                                                              Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                              • 14293

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by kmanrox
                                                                                              wouldnt the cookie already be placed so it doesnt matter if they go back and forth? just a thought
                                                                                              It matters if you lose the sale because of sending people back and forth.
                                                                                              Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                              • yumma
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                                                                                                • Jul 2007
                                                                                                • 579

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                not sure they're cheaters - so big so long hard work, why risk?
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                                                                                                • Quickdraw
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                  • 1717

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  So, they have

                                                                                                  1. A totally unrelated popup off the join page exit(on a tour that doesn't say the price, so surfers have to get that far to even check for the price).

                                                                                                  2. Another processor they are not paying on?(2000charge)
                                                                                                  3. 3 of the first 5 links on the 'Magazine tours' lead to different affiliate codes

                                                                                                  Anything else?

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                                                                                                  • GUNNER
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                                                                                                    • May 2001
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    It's an 'on-exit' console that pops from the join page. Not shaving - not even close. You don't lose credit for any sale because of it.

                                                                                                    However, we've tried the console in this spot now for a few weeks as a test to see how it would perform and if there were any problems. While this is the first I've heard from ANY affiliates about it, if it's deemed a liability to the overall reputation of our program name it will be removed.
                                                                                                    gunner @tutamail.com
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