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Originally Posted by Kolargol
It does help but with dumb, lazy models it won't make much difference 
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That's when you tell them to fuck off home.
Silentknight If it's not in the skills and imagination of the shooter (and model

) then it's not going to happen. for any spectrum of photography. Other than taking pictures of your family. Even then the quote should still ring true.
think of it like this. When Ernst Haas uses the word
"see" it also covers the imagination.
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Originally Posted by muckfe
sometimes u have to take crappy pics to look like amatuer stuff to convert
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An amateur picture from an amateur shooter or a picture of an amateur?
BF shooting GF as a prelude to sex is pretty easy for them. Stranger shooting paid model who has no intention of fucking, isn't easy.
Also with today's cameras and even a decent phone one. It's tough to take a bad picture in light and focus terms.