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  • Dirty F
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    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #201
    Originally posted by Shotsie
    Are you really trying to compare The Netherlands to the United States?
    Uhm yes, i did. What's your problem with that? I'm trying to show what every normal person knows:
    Less guns = less gun violence.

    Typically the only people who can't understand this are gun owners.. How odd is that.

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    • DamianJ
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      • Jul 2006
      • 15808

      #202
      Originally posted by JohnnyClips
      Stop looking at the effects and lets look at the cause
      No one is arguing that the cause needs to be addressed. People are pointing out if you had less guns, less people would be shot.

      Come up with a counterpoint to that, rather than building straw men.

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      • TheSquealer
        Mayor of Thneedville
        • Oct 2004
        • 26177

        #203
        Originally posted by JohnnyClips
        What about the government and their guns? Or do they somehow magically not count?
        All government's have guns dumbass. ALL.
        .
        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

        Rochard

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        • D Ghost
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          • May 2006
          • 9820

          #204
          Interesting. Mexico has only 15 guns per 100 people. And US 88 per 100. But the Firearm homicides per capita is higher in Mexico.

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          • DWB
            Registered User
            • Jul 2003
            • 31779

            #205
            Originally posted by georgeyw
            So guns were not designed to kill? They were designed for sports and collecting ? Riiight
            That's not what I said. I said not everyone has a gun with the intent to kill someone.

            What they were designed for is irrelevant. I use paper binders as computer cable holders. Wasn't what they were designed for, but that's how I use them. Just like a gun, not everyone has one so they can kill people.

            Sport, collection, investment, and protection would top the list. If you want to see guns that has a single purpose of killing people, look no further than any military force in the world. If you want to see guns made for killing animals, look at hunters.


            Originally posted by georgeyw
            No shit, however the intended purpose of a gun is to kill, not to sit on a mantel place/shelf/safe.
            It doesn't matter what they were intended for. A diesel engine was built to run on peanut oil. Guns have transcended what they were built for.


            Originally posted by georgeyw
            I bet the owner of the gun in question here did not buy it thinking it would be used to kill a kid.
            Yet the companies who make the guns and bullets send 1000s of guns and millions of bullets to countries all over the world where they are used to kill kids, mostly by military forces.

            What the owner bought the gun for is again irreverent. He may be a gunsmith or a policeman. We don't know yet.



            Originally posted by georgeyw
            I will never need a gun.
            I hope you don't.



            Originally posted by georgeyw
            First world countries are generally thought to be civilised - this being my point.
            "Thought to be" is where you're making the wrong assumption. Many nations that should be civilized are not. If in question, look to history or even recent times and see what happens during times of protest or civil unrest.


            Originally posted by DamianJ
            But it is.
            It isn't where I live and guns are more easily obtained than in the USA, as are serious assault weapons.


            Originally posted by DJ The Kid
            It takes a person to pull the trigger. There are tons of responsible individuals who own firearms, and have grown up around firearms for generations. Without incident.

            Let's not blame this on "easy access" to firearms. We all know the countries were it's illegal to own one, it's still not hard to get one. And if someone really wants to commit a crime using one, they WILL find it, whether it's illegal or not. It's just like a drug addict, just because it's illegal doesn't mean people don't do drugs or find them.

            Making guns illegal, just like drugs, or other things for that matter - like prostitution. Will have an even more negative impact on those situations.
            Great post DJ.

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            • D Ghost
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              • May 2006
              • 9820

              #206
              Originally posted by Dirty F
              Less guns = less gun violence.

              Interesting. Mexico has only 15 guns per 100 people. And US 88 per 100. But the Firearm homicides per capita is higher in Mexico.

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              • georgeyw
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                • Jul 2005
                • 9865

                #207
                Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                Stop looking at the effects and lets look at the cause
                The cause is lax gun laws, the end result is 'High School shooting in Ohio'.
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                • Dirty F
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                  • Jul 2001
                  • 59204

                  #208
                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                  tell me again WHY did you ask me to remove you off ignore when this is all you do?



                  "oh fletch ive been such a dick trolling you I do it for no reason and I know ive been a douche" basically your words... LOL

                  now you pissed because I actually discuss something with you and prove you wrong?

                  LOLz
                  What are you saying? Less guns does not result in less gun violence? Seriously?

                  Should we make grenades as easy to get as guns? Why not? It won't result in more grenade violence? Right?
                  Right Fletch?


                  Right Fletch???

                  Answer me Fletch, is that correct?

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                  • helterskelter808
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 3405

                    #209
                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                    Ok, let me put it this way. I hope you will answer this.
                    Should every American who is allowed to buy a gun also be allowed to BUY any other weapon. Any weapon you can think of?
                    Short answer: yes. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

                    Of course, it's infringed all the time, and in many different ways, but as long as fat ass rednecks to get to shoot deer and impotently blog about the Illuminati, the NWO or the zombie apocalypse, nobody really cares.

                    The point of the right to keep and bear arms is said to be to ward off tyrannical Government. The good people of the late 18th century had essentially the same weapons as the Government, so by rights the people of 2012 should have the same weapons as the Government. How else do we fight tyranny?

                    Funny thing is, gunloons do not agree, presumably believing their stash of AR-15s is enough to fight off a tyrannical Government's collection of tactical nuclear missiles.

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                    • L-Pink
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                      • Mar 2005
                      • 39151

                      #210
                      Originally posted by Dirty F

                      Still it doesn't change the fact that there are way less guns per 1000 people in Holland with results in way less gun violence. Something that is still really fucking hard to understand for hicks like you.
                      How about overall violence? Honest question, how are overall violence stats compared to the US?

                      .

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                      • Fletch XXX
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                        • Jan 2002
                        • 60840

                        #211
                        Originally posted by Sly
                        Listen everyone.

                        We Americans are stupid animals that like guns and killing each other. Just think, the fewer Americans there are the easier it will be for the rest of the world to rise up and conquer the evil that is America.

                        Sounds like a win for non-Americans. Recognize your victories!

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                        • Dirty F
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                          • Jul 2001
                          • 59204

                          #212
                          Originally posted by DJ The Kid



                          Interesting. Mexico has only 15 guns per 100 people. And US 88 per 100. But the Firearm homicides per capita is higher in Mexico.
                          The dumb fucking scammer defending piece of shit is getting serious now. Posting in a big font
                          Watch out everybody.

                          Only 15 per 100 people Love the part where he says "only".

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                          • D Ghost
                            null
                            • May 2006
                            • 9820

                            #213
                            Originally posted by Dirty F
                            What are you saying? Less guns does not result in less gun violence? Seriously?

                            Should we make grenades as easy to get as guns? Why not? It won't result in more grenade violence? Right?
                            Right Fletch?


                            Right Fletch???

                            Answer me Fletch, is that correct?

                            Interesting. Mexico has only 15 guns per 100 people. And US 88 per 100. But the Firearm homicides per capita is higher in Mexico.

                            So yes you are wrong.

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                            • DamianJ
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                              • Jul 2006
                              • 15808

                              #214
                              It's a funny thread. Most arguments on GFY have two sides of people both talking out of their arses.

                              Here, we have one group of people talking with facts proving that more guns = more gun crime, and other people just saying "nyaah nyaah nyaah I can't here you".

                              Funny stuff.

                              God bless the NRA!

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                              • georgeyw
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                                • Jul 2005
                                • 9865

                                #215
                                Originally posted by L-Pink
                                ALL of your citizens voluntarily turned over their firearms? Every one of them?

                                .
                                No.

                                Semi automatic / automatic guns from memory.
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                                • Dirty F
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                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 59204

                                  #216
                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                  How about overall violence? Honest question, how are overall violence stats compared to the US?

                                  .
                                  I don't know. Look it up. In the meantime i have a question for you.

                                  Should we make grenades easy to get? Why not, it won't result in more grenade violence?

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                                  • D Ghost
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                                    • May 2006
                                    • 9820

                                    #217
                                    http://www.ehow.com/info_8115731_rea...le-ignore.html

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                                    • TheSquealer
                                      Mayor of Thneedville
                                      • Oct 2004
                                      • 26177

                                      #218
                                      Obviously there are no reliable gun stats from Mexico - i seriously doubt the cartels are reporting their container loads of small arms.
                                      .
                                      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                      Rochard

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                                      • Fletch XXX
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                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 60840

                                        #219
                                        Originally posted by DamianJ

                                        Here, we have one group of people talking with facts proving that more guns = more gun crime,
                                        wow thats deep, its almost like the politicians saying downloaders outnumber uploaders...

                                        ummm, duh?

                                        More trains = more train crashes too.

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                                        • Sly
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                                          • Sep 2004
                                          • 31376

                                          #220
                                          Originally posted by DamianJ
                                          It's a funny thread. Most arguments on GFY have two sides of people both talking out of their arses.

                                          Here, we have one group of people talking with facts proving that more guns = more gun crime, and other people just saying "nyaah nyaah nyaah I can't here you".

                                          Funny stuff.

                                          God bless the NRA!
                                          Actually, many of us are saying that we don't care and it is still our right either way. Stupid people are stupid people. Don't touch my guns.

                                          Yes, that makes me a stupid American hick... who doesn't own guns but fully supports the right to do so.
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                                          • D Ghost
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                                            • May 2006
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                                            #221
                                            Originally posted by DamianJ
                                            It's a funny thread. Most arguments on GFY have two sides of people both talking out of their arses.

                                            Here, we have one group of people talking with facts proving that more guns = more gun crime, and other people just saying "nyaah nyaah nyaah I can't here you".

                                            Funny stuff.

                                            God bless the NRA!
                                            So why in Mexico there are less guns per capita than the U.S., is the per capita gun homicide rate higher in Mexico?

                                            This means less guns DOES NOT equal less violence.

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                                            • Fletch XXX
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                                              • Jan 2002
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                                              #222
                                              Im normally not a gambling man, but im willing to bet, the number of horse carrriage deaths are DOWN since we switched to the automobile,... but then.... damn auto deaths are up.

                                              see how that works?

                                              Did any of you ever take a statistics class? LOL

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                                              • DWB
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                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 31779

                                                #223
                                                Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                Interesting. Mexico has only 15 guns per 100 people. And US 88 per 100. But the Firearm homicides per capita is higher in Mexico.



                                                Interesting numbers for sure. Thanks for digging that up.

                                                Cue the non-Americans to tell you those numbers are wrong. They have to be.

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                                                • Shotsie
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                                                  • Sep 2011
                                                  • 1208

                                                  #224
                                                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                  Still it doesn't change the fact that there are way less guns per 1000 people in Holland with results in way less gun violence. Something that is still really fucking hard to understand for hicks like you.
                                                  It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that you're trying to compare a nation like the United States, to the extent that it can be glossed over as a singular entity, with a population of 314 million; to a nation like The Netherlands, to the extent that it can be glossed over as a singular entity, with a population of 14 million?

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                                                  • Dirty F
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 59204

                                                    #225
                                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

                                                    amazing how you get 10 3rd world shitcountries and then right after that the US hahaha

                                                    All these countries have shitloads of guns.
                                                    But ofcourse that's totally not related to the fact that they are the countries with the most gun violence.

                                                    Toooootally not related because more guns = not more gun violence, as we all know

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                                                    • D Ghost
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                                                      • May 2006
                                                      • 9820

                                                      #226
                                                      Interesting how Saudi Arabia has a high gun per capita rate. But doesn't even show on the gun homicides per capita rankings...

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                                                      • Dirty F
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 59204

                                                        #227
                                                        Originally posted by Shotsie
                                                        It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that you're trying to compare a nation like the United States, to the extent that it can be glossed over as a singular entity, with a population of 314 million; to a nation like The Netherlands, to the extent that it can be glossed over as a singular entity, with a population of 14 million?
                                                        Jesus! Are you fucking serious?
                                                        Do you know what per 1000 means?

                                                        Holy shit..

                                                        I'm not even gonna explains this.

                                                        The stupidity here is just scary.

                                                        Omg....

                                                        This is bad.

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                                                        • Dirty F
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                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 59204

                                                          #228
                                                          Fuck man. Seriously? We can't compare Holland to the US because Holland is smaller?

                                                          Unbelievable.

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                                                          • Fletch XXX
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                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 60840

                                                            #229
                                                            Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                            Interesting how Saudi Arabia has a high gun per capita rate. But doesn't even show on the gun homicides per capita rankings...
                                                            shhhh, those are facts.

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                                                            • porno jew
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                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                              • 10166

                                                              #230
                                                              Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                              So why in Mexico there are less guns per capita than the U.S., is the per capita gun homicide rate higher in Mexico?

                                                              This means less guns DOES NOT equal less violence.
                                                              because mexico is a lawless shithole. compare the US to japan or canada.

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                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 59204

                                                                #231
                                                                Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                shhhh, those are facts.
                                                                Oh that suddenly is a fact but showing that every shithole country (and the US) has more guns and more gun violence is quitely ignored. But when you can find one country where it's different than you all start crying about facts.

                                                                Pathetic fucking rednecks.

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                                                                • DamianJ
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                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                  • 15808

                                                                  #232
                                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                  How about overall violence? Honest question, how are overall violence stats compared to the US?

                                                                  .
                                                                  Netherlands;

                                                                  Variable Amount/description Rank
                                                                  Crime > Assaults 44,129 [14th of 58]
                                                                  Crime > Car thefts (per capita) 2.33559 per 1,000 people [15th of 55]
                                                                  Crime > Drug offences 47 per 100,000 people [20th of 36]
                                                                  Crime > Illicit drugs
                                                                  major European producer of ecstasy, illicit amphetamines, and other synthetic drugs; important gateway for cocaine, heroin, and hashish entering Europe; major source of US-bound ecstasy; large financial sector vulnerable to money laundering
                                                                  Crime > Murders 183 [40th of 63]
                                                                  Crime > Murders (per capita) 0.0111538 per 1,000 people [51st of 62]
                                                                  Crime > Rapes 1,648 [20th of 66]
                                                                  Crime > Rapes (per capita) 0.100445 per 1,000 people [22nd of 65]
                                                                  Crime > Total crimes 1,305,640 [14th of 61]
                                                                  Crime > Total crimes (per capita) 79.5779 per 1,000 people


                                                                  USA;

                                                                  Variable Amount/description Rank
                                                                  Crime > Assaults 2,238,480 [1st of 58]
                                                                  Crime > Car thefts (per capita) 3.8795 per 1,000 people [9th of 55]
                                                                  Crime > Murders 12,658 [6th of 63]
                                                                  Crime > Murders (per capita) 0.042802 per 1,000 people [24th of 62]
                                                                  Crime > Murders with firearms 8,259 [4th of 32]
                                                                  Crime > Murders with firearms (per capita) 0.0279271 per 1,000 people [8th of 32]
                                                                  Crime > Rapes 89,110 [1st of 66]
                                                                  Crime > Rapes (per capita) 0.301318 per 1,000 people [9th of 65]
                                                                  Crime > Total crimes 23,677,800 [1st of 61]
                                                                  Crime > Total crimes (per capita) 80.0645 per 1,000 people [8th of 60]

                                                                  http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita

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                                                                  • Dirty F
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 59204

                                                                    #233
                                                                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                    Netherlands;

                                                                    Variable Amount/description Rank
                                                                    Crime > Assaults 44,129 [14th of 58]
                                                                    Crime > Car thefts (per capita) 2.33559 per 1,000 people [15th of 55]
                                                                    Crime > Drug offences 47 per 100,000 people [20th of 36]
                                                                    Crime > Illicit drugs
                                                                    major European producer of ecstasy, illicit amphetamines, and other synthetic drugs; important gateway for cocaine, heroin, and hashish entering Europe; major source of US-bound ecstasy; large financial sector vulnerable to money laundering
                                                                    Crime > Murders 183 [40th of 63]
                                                                    Crime > Murders (per capita) 0.0111538 per 1,000 people [51st of 62]
                                                                    Crime > Rapes 1,648 [20th of 66]
                                                                    Crime > Rapes (per capita) 0.100445 per 1,000 people [22nd of 65]
                                                                    Crime > Total crimes 1,305,640 [14th of 61]
                                                                    Crime > Total crimes (per capita) 79.5779 per 1,000 people


                                                                    USA;

                                                                    Variable Amount/description Rank
                                                                    Crime > Assaults 2,238,480 [1st of 58]
                                                                    Crime > Car thefts (per capita) 3.8795 per 1,000 people [9th of 55]
                                                                    Crime > Murders 12,658 [6th of 63]
                                                                    Crime > Murders (per capita) 0.042802 per 1,000 people [24th of 62]
                                                                    Crime > Murders with firearms 8,259 [4th of 32]
                                                                    Crime > Murders with firearms (per capita) 0.0279271 per 1,000 people [8th of 32]
                                                                    Crime > Rapes 89,110 [1st of 66]
                                                                    Crime > Rapes (per capita) 0.301318 per 1,000 people [9th of 65]
                                                                    Crime > Total crimes 23,677,800 [1st of 61]
                                                                    Crime > Total crimes (per capita) 80.0645 per 1,000 people [8th of 60]

                                                                    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita
                                                                    That's weird? With all those guns criminals are afraid to commit crimes in the US right? That's what i keep reading here. Still there is more criminality in general than in Holland.

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                                                                    • Dirty F
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jul 2001
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                                                                      #234
                                                                      But anyway, we can't compare Holland to the US because there are less people living in Holland

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                                                                      • D Ghost
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                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                        • 9820

                                                                        #235
                                                                        I'd like to see if someone tries to come in and rob your home with a gun, and all you have is a knife or baseball bat. Since guns are illegal and you can't own one, but the criminal (who will get a hold of anyway no matter what) does.

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                                                                        • georgeyw
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                                                                          #236
                                                                          Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                                          So why in Mexico there are less guns per capita than the U.S., is the per capita gun homicide rate higher in Mexico?

                                                                          This means less guns DOES NOT equal less violence.
                                                                          Another way to look at those facts is that gun ownership is high in both countries and so are gun related deaths.

                                                                          Also comparing US to Mexico ?

                                                                          How about comparing the US with a close first world neighbour like umm hmmm let me think - Canada?

                                                                          Canada 30.8 - rank 13
                                                                          US 88.8 - rank 1

                                                                          Congratulations you guys are FIRST
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                                                                          • Dirty F
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                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 59204

                                                                            #237
                                                                            Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                                            I'd like to see if someone tries to come in and rob your home with a gun, and all you have is a knife or baseball bat...
                                                                            Yeah thank god in your country where every other person has a gun things are way more safe.

                                                                            Because we all know it's way more safer if every hick around you owns a gun instead of a few criminals who you most likely will never run into in your life.
                                                                            Makes perfect sense*





                                                                            *If you are a dumb fucking redneck idiot

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                                                                            • D Ghost
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                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                              • 9820

                                                                              #238
                                                                              Yes, everyone in the US is a redneck hick living in the hills.

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                                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                • 59204

                                                                                #239
                                                                                Well, i'm done here. I just want you hillbillies to know that i approve of your gun law.
                                                                                If it's up to me they should make guns and all other weapons completely legal in your country. Really, that would make my day.
                                                                                I'm really happy for you guys it's so easy for every idiot to own a gun. I mean this.
                                                                                Goodnight my responsible gun owning friends!

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                                                                                • Sly
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                                                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                                                  • 31376

                                                                                  #240
                                                                                  Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                                                  Yes, everyone in the US is a redneck hick living in the hills.
                                                                                  This is true. I'm not sure why we deny this, it's something we should be proud of.

                                                                                  Rednecks for life.
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                                                                                  • georgeyw
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                                                                                    #241
                                                                                    Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                                                    I'd like to see if someone tries to come in and rob your home with a gun, and all you have is a knife or baseball bat. Since guns are illegal and you can't own one, but the criminal (who will get a hold of anyway no matter what) does.
                                                                                    Such a valid point.

                                                                                    I can't count the number of times i've had to chase off an intruder with a butter knife.

                                                                                    Wish Is hads mes as guns tos shootss dose crimunarls
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                                                                                    • Shotsie
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                                                                                      #242
                                                                                      Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                      But anyway, we can't compare Holland to the US because there are less people living in Holland
                                                                                      No, your can't. Any physicist could tell you that very big things do not behave in the same fashion as very small things, even if they share properties. Nations are not dissimilar. As the number of citizens rises, complexity rises. Complexity rises still further for the addition of multiple cultures, poverty issues and a whole host of other differences between The U.S. and Holland.

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                                                                                      • DWB
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                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                        • 31779

                                                                                        #243
                                                                                        Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                        Im normally not a gambling man, but im willing to bet, the number of horse carrriage deaths are DOWN since we switched to the automobile,... but then.... damn auto deaths are up.

                                                                                        see how that works?

                                                                                        Did any of you ever take a statistics class? LOL
                                                                                        Did you know cities with the most casinos have the most gambling?

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                                                                                        • L-Pink
                                                                                          working on my tan
                                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                                          • 39151

                                                                                          #244
                                                                                          Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                          Netherlands;

                                                                                          Variable Amount/description Rank
                                                                                          Crime > Assaults 44,129 [14th of 58]
                                                                                          Crime > Car thefts (per capita) 2.33559 per 1,000 people [15th of 55]
                                                                                          Crime > Drug offences 47 per 100,000 people [20th of 36]
                                                                                          Crime > Illicit drugs
                                                                                          major European producer of ecstasy, illicit amphetamines, and other synthetic drugs; important gateway for cocaine, heroin, and hashish entering Europe; major source of US-bound ecstasy; large financial sector vulnerable to money laundering
                                                                                          Crime > Murders 183 [40th of 63]
                                                                                          Crime > Murders (per capita) 0.0111538 per 1,000 people [51st of 62]
                                                                                          Crime > Rapes 1,648 [20th of 66]
                                                                                          Crime > Rapes (per capita) 0.100445 per 1,000 people [22nd of 65]
                                                                                          Crime > Total crimes 1,305,640 [14th of 61]
                                                                                          Crime > Total crimes (per capita) 79.5779 per 1,000 people


                                                                                          USA;

                                                                                          Variable Amount/description Rank
                                                                                          Crime > Assaults 2,238,480 [1st of 58]
                                                                                          Crime > Car thefts (per capita) 3.8795 per 1,000 people [9th of 55]
                                                                                          Crime > Murders 12,658 [6th of 63]
                                                                                          Crime > Murders (per capita) 0.042802 per 1,000 people [24th of 62]
                                                                                          Crime > Murders with firearms 8,259 [4th of 32]
                                                                                          Crime > Murders with firearms (per capita) 0.0279271 per 1,000 people [8th of 32]
                                                                                          Crime > Rapes 89,110 [1st of 66]
                                                                                          Crime > Rapes (per capita) 0.301318 per 1,000 people [9th of 65]
                                                                                          Crime > Total crimes 23,677,800 [1st of 61]
                                                                                          Crime > Total crimes (per capita) 80.0645 per 1,000 people [8th of 60]

                                                                                          http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita
                                                                                          Thanks, for looking that up.

                                                                                          Seems we need to drop marijuana laws too, chill out the population.


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                                                                                          • DamianJ
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                            • 15808

                                                                                            #245
                                                                                            Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                                                                                            How about looking at why someone would want to commit a crime against someone else..?
                                                                                            How about looking at if there were less guns, less people would be shot?

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                                                                                            • DWB
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                              • 31779

                                                                                              #246
                                                                                              Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                              Such a valid point.

                                                                                              I can't count the number of times i've had to chase off an intruder with a butter knife.

                                                                                              Wish Is hads mes as guns tos shootss dose crimunarls
                                                                                              Shit happens. I hope it never happens to you, cause you're fucked if it does.


                                                                                              Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                              Another way to look at those facts is that gun ownership is high in both countries and so are gun related deaths.

                                                                                              Also comparing US to Mexico ?

                                                                                              How about comparing the US with a close first world neighbour like umm hmmm let me think - Canada?

                                                                                              Canada 30.8 - rank 13
                                                                                              US 88.8 - rank 1

                                                                                              Congratulations you guys are FIRST
                                                                                              Why does it matter what country to compare it against? The argument is more guns equals more gun related deaths. Which isn't the case in Mexico.


                                                                                              Here is an interesting read on the worlds worst serial killers. None of them used firearms.

                                                                                              Read: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/495477.stm

                                                                                              Non-Americans who know everything about US gun culture, care to explain how this is possible?

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                                                                                              • DamianJ
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                • 15808

                                                                                                #247
                                                                                                Originally posted by georgeyw

                                                                                                Congratulations you guys are FIRST
                                                                                                They also win on FATTEST too!

                                                                                                http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...health-obesity

                                                                                                GO USA!

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                                                                                                • DWB
                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 31779

                                                                                                  #248
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                  How about looking at if there were less guns, less people would be shot?
                                                                                                  If there were less shoe stores, less people would have shoes.

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                                                                                                  • georgeyw
                                                                                                    58008 53773
                                                                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                                                                    • 9865

                                                                                                    #249
                                                                                                    Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                    Thanks, for looking that up.

                                                                                                    Seems we need to drop marijuana laws too, chill out the population.


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                                                                                                    haha

                                                                                                    This is one thing I have never understood about the US.

                                                                                                    Marijuana is illegal yet guns are seen as an essential household item.

                                                                                                    BTW - I love visiting the US, no problem with the people at all from my experience, simply do not get the love for guns.
                                                                                                    TripleXPrint on Megan Fox
                                                                                                    "I would STILL suck her pussy until her face caved in. And then blow her up and do it again!"

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                                                                                                    • DWB
                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                      • 31779

                                                                                                      #250
                                                                                                      Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                      They also win on FATTEST too!

                                                                                                      http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...health-obesity

                                                                                                      GO USA!
                                                                                                      We also have the best teeth. Sorry England.

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