1 million dead people using guns by the government - foreign policy
1 dead in a school shooting - BAN GUNS!!!
Originally posted by DamianJ
Well, if he couldn't get a gun, he wouldn't have been able to shoot anyone.
It's really simple.
He may have been able to smoke near them though. Or sup on a 40. Yes. Good point.
Heheh.
When I was in high school we had one suicide where a girl managed to blow her head off with her dads shotgun. We had another incident where kids were out joy riding and shot a gun out of their car window into a corn field. On the other side of the field a car just happened to be driving on a distant road and as luck would have it, shot the driver right in the head. The kid who was shot had just graduated from our school the year before.
Two kids dead from guns. Parents went nuts.
I think there were 5 or 6 deaths in my four years of high school that were car accident related. Besides the deaths, no one cared they were killed in cars, yet cars had killed more than guns.
It's the stigma that comes with guns. Nothing more. People are afraid of them so people freak out when there is an accident.
I was shooting guns when I was in the 6th grade. Both my dad and step dad owned guns. My dad owned a lot of them, some were crazy ass machine guns he got from lord knows where. No one was shot with them. No one was ever hurt. Why not? Because guns are only a problem when they are in the hands of unstable people, or unless there is an accident. Sane and responsible people with guns are not a problem.
Originally posted by DamianJ
You know he shot people, right? With a gun?
If guns didn't exist he may have found other means to kill them if he was motivated. A gun is just the easiest option. Without a gun he may have improvised if he really wanted them to die.
If I wanted to kill you, I wouldn't let the absence of a gun get in the way.
Hello, because im working LOL as i said... its a boring old troll debate, done soooo many times. We get it, you hate stoners and guns. LOL
Originally posted by Fletch XXX
But anyway, ill leave this all to you guys, really this isnt that exciting LOL
soon as you start with the "stop crying" shit there is no need to discuss anything further, i have work to do. You think I want try change your opinion on guns? LOLOL
It's the stigma that comes with guns. Nothing more. People are afraid of them so people freak out when there is an accident.
I think its more a question of what is considered acceptable and reasonable. Guns are generally not considered necessary... cars are generally considered necessary.
. Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.
Hello, because im working LOL as i said... its a boring old troll debate, done soooo many times. We get it, you hate stoners and guns. LOL
soon as you start with the "stop crying" shit there is no need to discuss anything further, i have work to do. You think I want try change your opinion on guns? LOLOL
Who cares if he had easy access to a gun? Makes no difference whatsoever. Please look at the cause, not effect
He had access to many weapons I'm sure. He could have also poured gas on someone and burned them. He choose a gun for reasons only he knows. But that is not the issue. The issue is the kid had problems. Problems that most everyone in this thread refuse to even acknowledge as the real issue at hand. As far as I see it, it's the only issue. But like every other issue in society, no one ever wants to get to the root of a problem. Lets just scape goat it or stick a band-aid on it and hope it goes away.
The fact he had a gun, acquired easily or not, is irrelevant. The real issue, and the only issue that is important, is what is wrong with the kid to make him kill someone at school.
Personally, I wish everyone (non-criminal) was easily granted a concealed license permit and had to take X amount of training in order to carry. Violent crime more or less wouldn't exist anymore. If Betty the soccer mom was packing, as was Joe the mailman and Jimmy the bus driver, people wouldn't be getting out line so quick.
And how would you ban guns? Give men in blue and green costumes guns? Makes no sense
It's amazing how the rest of the world manages it, Johnny.
Did you see the nice picture I posted?
It proves that in America you have lots of guns and that means lots and lots and lots of people get shot. It also showed in the UK, Netherlands and Japan there aren't many guns and hardly anyone gets shot
EXPLAIN THAT, GENIUS!!!?!?!1111oneoneone
It's beyond me!
It's like Markham invented Magic Gun Laws or sommink!???!!111oeoneon
Fractional reserve banking, the federal reserve, government spending, poor public schools, mass consumerism, and being a welfare state has ruined America. Not guns.
its also easy to get cigarettes, knives, gas, and alcohol not all of us smoke and drink, make bombs or stab people.
your logic is terribly flawed. terribly.
Not flawed. We know that "people kill, not guns", however easy availability plays a MAJOR part in this. When we hear about some school or workplace shootings in the world 50% of the time is is in USA. Simple, america is crazy gun land, every second redneck owns a shotgun.
Headline in the LA Times: Ohio high school shooting: 1 killed, 4 injured at Chardon High
A suspect was taken into custody, but his name was being withheld because he's a juvenile, said Chardon Police Chief Timothy McKenna. The suspect, who is believed to be a student at the school, has yet to be charged, the chief said.
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theres one thing you can be certain of in these threads, its never *really* about freedom or guns, or anything except.... bashing America. If you notice, the ones bashing guns usually include quick jabs at America as a whole.
Its ok guys, hate America! yeah! fuck em! lolz they all rednecks with guns!
theres one thing you can be certain of in these threads, its never *really* about freedom or guns, or anything except.... bashing America. If you notice, the ones bashing guns usually include quick jabs at America as a whole.
Its ok guys, hate America! yeah! fuck em! lolz they all rednecks with guns!
so childish.
Should bazookas be legal?
Why do you refuse to answer this? Is there a specific reason for it?
I think its more a question of what is considered acceptable and reasonable. Guns are generally not considered necessary... cars are generally considered necessary.
They are not a necessity. However, since they do exist, everyone who is not a criminal should have one. In a perfect world they would have never existed. But to ban them all now would only allow the bad guys to have them. And the ban wouldn't stop gun sales away.
Originally posted by DamianJ
It proves that in America you have lots of guns and that means lots and lots and lots of people get shot. It also showed in the UK, Netherlands and Japan there aren't many guns and hardly anyone gets shot
EXPLAIN THAT, GENIUS!!!?!?!1111oneoneone
Americans have issues. I've been all over the world, literally. Twice. Never come across people like Americans. I blame it on society, not guns.
Originally posted by mineistaken
Not flawed. We know that "people kill, not guns", however easy availability plays a MAJOR part in this. When we hear about some school or workplace shootings in the world 50% of the time is is in USA. Simple, america is crazy gun land, every second redneck owns a shotgun.
It's written into law that we can own them. Yee-haw.
But truth be told, if guns never existed they would just kill each other with bows and arrows or knives. Both the family and society are broken on many levels and this is the result.
Cavemen clubbed each other to death. You bloody English who don't have guns, have hooligans. People are dysfunctional and violent. That's all there is to it. And as society unravels, it will get worse.
Never seen that, or even heard of it, but I don't doubt it happens. But it's not normal to do those things.
just taking examples from why people post here. why you have to sleep with a gun under your pillow when you live in a nice neighborhood is beyond me, but seems people here do.
my opinion doesnt matter. fact is, people who can buy guns can also buy a bazooka. Not sure why you want to seek my opinion, im talking facts not opinion.
my opinion doesnt matter. fact is, people who can buy guns can also buy a bazooka. Not sure why you want to seek my opinion, im talking facts not opinion.
Just as easy? So anybody who can pick up a gun can just as easily pick up a bazooka? That is the truth? Honesty, i don't live there so i don't know. I have to assume you are being honest with me.
my opinion doesnt matter. fact is, people who can buy guns can also buy a bazooka. Not sure why you want to seek my opinion, im talking facts not opinion.
Ok, let me put it this way. I hope you will answer this.
Should every American who is allowed to buy a gun also be allowed to BUY any other weapon. Any weapon you can think of?
fact is, its not as easy as you all make it out to be to buy guns in America. I know plenty of people who cannot buy guns legally. You guys think I can just walk in walmart and buy a bazooka and that I walk around my garbage can with a machine gun. As an American, I find it difficult to even discuss this stuff with you guys because you sound silly like a fairy tale.
In our country, if you get the proper license you can buy a gun, if you get a proper license you can buy a bazooka, same way we regulate drivers licenses to bigger vehicles like 18 wheelers. we also make people take a test to ride a motorcycle and they must wear a helmet, *gasp* oh the freedoms!
fact is its more regulated than you guys pretend it to be and just sit back and bash americans and guns and our country in general, honestly its not worth the time to me hahah
i mean, in california i cant even own a magazine with more than i think 15 bullets, and they dont recognize copnceal permits from my home state etc,... but here yall come saying everyone in america just owns guns and walks around in daylight brandishing machine guns.
its a fucking fairy tale and not worth the debate.
Fractional reserve banking, the federal reserve, government spending, poor public schools, mass consumerism, and being a welfare state has ruined America. Not guns.
It was a joke, in reply to the post I quoted.
FYI, guns aren't free. It was a reference to free porn ruining porn
I hate to think what I am allowed or not allowed to do always comes down to the lowest common denominator. A dumb shit kid with problems shoots someone so now I can't own a gun. How fucked up is that? That's actually more fucked up than what he did.
I hate to think what I am allowed or not allowed to do always comes down to the lowest common denominator. A dumb shit kid with problems shoots someone so now I can't own a gun. How fucked up is that?
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You don't hear me say that. Buy all the guns you want, i really don't care.
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