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  • TMM_John
    Confirmed User
    • May 2004
    • 6665

    #1

    Putting people in the industry into collections?

    What is your opinion on putting people in the industry who don't pay their bills into collections?

    Very few seem to do it.

    Your thoughts?


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  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #2
    Most small webmasters that cant afford their bills and that are bad payers in this industry have very bad credit, they don't really give a damn about collection
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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    • TMM_John
      Confirmed User
      • May 2004
      • 6665

      #3
      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
      Most small webmasters that cant afford their bills and that are bad payers in this industry have very bad credit, they don't really give a damn about collection
      Thats a good point.


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      • Sly
        Let's do some business!
        • Sep 2004
        • 31379

        #4
        Originally posted by Doctor Dre
        Most small webmasters that cant afford their bills and that are bad payers in this industry have very bad credit, they don't really give a damn about collection
        It isn't just small webmasters that have problems with their bills...
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        • Rowdy
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2003
          • 637

          #5
          The problem I see with it would be the different locations involved and laws. For example, you might win a judgement in - one state with no way to collect if the person is from another state - type thing.

          If it was a big enough sum though, it sure would be worth a try imho.

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          • spacedog
            Yes that IS me. Bitch.
            • Nov 2001
            • 14149

            #6
            I spent over 11 years working at law firms & financial institutions doing collections.. Unless you have written & signed contracts stating that an unpaid debt will go into collections if unpaid, you can not place it into collections.

            A debtor needs to be notified in writing that you intend to default them & place their account into collections prior to you doing so.

            Once the account is placed into collections, the attorney or debt collector will send demand for payment & advise the debtor that if they fail to dispute the debt or pay it, that it will be placed on their credit report as a debt in collections, which will bring their credit score down.

            If the debtor is a business, the debt will be reported to Dunn & Bradstreet whom maintains credit reports on businesses although a business debt can be placed on both business & personal reports.

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            • pussyland
              Registered User
              • May 2006
              • 69

              #7
              It isn't just small webmasters that have problems with their bills...
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              • p1mpdogg
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Nov 2002
                • 16714

                #8
                hire a collection agent rather than putting them in collections.

                I got my 10k back from mike hood becuase I hired a collections guy that did a great job.

                I can refer anyone who has collection problems for a small fee ;)
                A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

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                • Creeper2222
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 22

                  #9
                  Originally posted by spacedog
                  I spent over 11 years working at law firms & financial institutions doing collections.. Unless you have written & signed contracts stating that an unpaid debt will go into collections if unpaid, you can not place it into collections.

                  A debtor needs to be notified in writing that you intend to default them & place their account into collections prior to you doing so.

                  Once the account is placed into collections, the attorney or debt collector will send demand for payment & advise the debtor that if they fail to dispute the debt or pay it, that it will be placed on their credit report as a debt in collections, which will bring their credit score down.

                  If the debtor is a business, the debt will be reported to Dunn & Bradstreet whom maintains credit reports on businesses although a business debt can be placed on both business & personal reports.

                  Not entirely true...espically with business deals.
                  Creeper can beat you at your own game

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                  • seeric
                    ..........
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 41917

                    #10
                    the problem i have had is a certain company fucking with your livleyhood when they in fact were the ones with the accounting problem. you gotta hate it when that happens.

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                    • Creeper2222
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 22

                      #11
                      My brother is part owner of one of the biggest debt purchasing companies in the midwest....Shit is different with Consumers and business deals. Consumers have laws that protect them from certain things collectors can and cant do. Laws are different from state to state. Time barred debts and shit like that. All stats are different from oral agreements to written contracts to promissary notes to open accounts.(time from last date of pay to which you can file suit, or report on a credit report) AGAIN for consumers... Business deals are different. Usually with businesses, one company is providing a service to another...Businesses have a little more pull when it comes to securing the money lost. Most small businesses and advertising companies I work with do their own collections....its always a topic that gets brought up. You dont have to send letters and be all nice and polite like the law forces bill collectors to be these days when it comes to business stuff...most small businesses dont even have a d&b report. Just sue em if you want, but that shit gets expensive cause most lawyers are turds.
                      Creeper can beat you at your own game

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                      • G-Rotica
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 4258

                        #12
                        Originally posted by spacedog
                        I spent over 11 years working at law firms & financial institutions doing collections.. Unless you have written & signed contracts stating that an unpaid debt will go into collections if unpaid, you can not place it into collections.

                        A debtor needs to be notified in writing that you intend to default them & place their account into collections prior to you doing so.
                        I disagree. Worked as a collection agent for 5+ years.

                        Public Law 95-109 Fair Debt Collections Practices Act
                        Federal Law
                        You don't need a signed contract that say anything about collections to place a debt with a collection agency. You'll need some kind of proof to get a judgement, but that doesn't even have to be a contract.

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                        • FreeHugeMovies
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 14142

                          #13
                          Toby from Raleigh, NC has had a judgment against him for over a year and still hasn't paid. He can't pay 900 dollars plus all the court fees. LOL

                          I’m in the final stages of trying to collect the money.

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                          • DaddyHalbucks
                            A freakin' legend!
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 18975

                            #14
                            You can't get blood from a stone.
                            Boner Money

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                            • G-Rotica
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 4258

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                              You can't get blood from a stone.
                              People use to tell me, you can't get blood from a turnip. My response was always the same. A salad didn't run up this debt, you did, so let's leave the veggies out of it.

                              Oh man, I crack me up.

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                              • TampaToker
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2006
                                • 5828

                                #16
                                Originally posted by G-Rotica
                                People use to tell me, you can't get blood from a turnip. My response was always the same. A salad didn't run up this debt, you did, so let's leave the veggies out of it.

                                Oh man, I crack me up.
                                Very true
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                                • FreeHugeMovies
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 14142

                                  #17
                                  PS Toby I love you hehe

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                                  • Creeper2222
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jul 2007
                                    • 22

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by G-Rotica
                                    I disagree. Worked as a collection agent for 5+ years.

                                    Public Law 95-109 Fair Debt Collections Practices Act
                                    Federal Law
                                    You don't need a signed contract that say anything about collections to place a debt with a collection agency. You'll need some kind of proof to get a judgement, but that doesn't even have to be a contract.
                                    In that same article it also describes those laws only apply for consumers who default on lines of credit for personal, family or household use...(credit cards, cars, insurance, etc)...when someone fucks you over on business...its a whole different ball game...you dont NEED a contract, but if youre not using contracts, youre just dumb, its not good biz sense at all.
                                    Creeper can beat you at your own game

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                                    • munki
                                      Do Fun Shit.
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 13393

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                      hire a collection agent rather than putting them in collections.

                                      I got my 10k back from mike hood becuase I hired a collections guy that did a great job.

                                      I can refer anyone who has collection problems for a small fee ;)
                                      lol... my fee may rival yours...

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