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  • halfpint
    GFY's Halfpint
    • Jun 2007
    • 15223

    #1

    Has Porn Reached its Peak

    I was just watching a program on tv called "How Porn Conquered the world"
    Some very intresting topics raised about how the porn industry is saturated and reached its peak, with the porn industry on the net it is so easy and cheap to set up a adult website, and there are so many porn websites that users are just tired of seeing the same thing over and over. Just as film killed of the theatre and mag sex industry they reackon the net is killing off the adult cd industry, and it coming to a point where users are looking for something different, They reackon the next big adult industry is gonna be in the Ipods and the mobile phones, what are your thoughts on this, Is the adult industry that saturated that people are getting bored with it and are looking for something new

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  • xNetworx
    So Fucking What
    • Jan 2004
    • 14445

    #2
    There is no money in porn

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    • Donfoolio
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      • Mar 2006
      • 963

      #3
      You can't jack off to a lil cell phone screen so I doubt that is the future of porn. and no I don't believe it is at it's peak. As long as there are dirty minds porn will exist and be strong. The two most powerful things that fuel human desire, are violence and sex. I believe the future of porn is... Cuckold!
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      • RawAlex
        So Fucking Banned
        • Oct 2003
        • 9465

        #4
        Nope. Porn is the second oldest profession (right after prostitution... basically caveman charging other caveman a buffalo leg to watch his sister do some guy. It never peaks because people always want to see.

        In fact, the rise of christian and muslim fundementalism makes porn even more desirable, and even more in demand. The more repression there is, the more desirable it is.

        Imagine how much money you could make in some countries getting muslim girls to take off their hijab? 49.99 a month to see hot muslim girls without veils! Maybe even in a skirt or a tank top! Woohoo!

        Porn isn't just about banging bodies.

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        • headless ghost
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          • May 2005
          • 893

          #5
          you are about 10 years too late

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          • halfpint
            GFY's Halfpint
            • Jun 2007
            • 15223

            #6
            Originally posted by RawAlex

            Imagine how much money you could make in some countries getting muslim girls to take off their hijab? 49.99 a month to see hot muslim girls without veils! Maybe even in a skirt or a tank top! Woohoo!
            lol you would be beheaded for that but a good idea

            I think the general idea of the "new" adult sites will need to be more interactive(like webcam shows) or something new where online adult users can interact with other users more. kinda make it more exciting instead of just watching movies or looking at pics by yourself and jacking off. Maybe those interactive suits or something

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            • billywatson
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              • Aug 2002
              • 3281

              #7
              Just a few questions for ya'll to consider:

              1) Is gambling at its peak?

              2) Is alcohol consumption at its peak?

              3) Is tobacco use at its peak?

              These are the 4 legal/acceptable vices, and to me, they're gonna be here forever. Shit, even cancer hasn't really fucked up #3, right?

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              • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                • Jan 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by Donfoolio
                You can't jack off to a lil cell phone screen so I doubt that is the future of porn. and no I don't believe it is at it's peak. As long as there are dirty minds porn will exist and be strong. The two most powerful things that fuel human desire, are violence and sex. I believe the future of porn is... Cuckold!
                why would they? most people jack off to video samples that are the equivalent in size on a full computer screen...

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                • PMdave
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                  • Dec 2003
                  • 1517

                  #9
                  Originally posted by billywatson

                  3) Is tobacco use at its peak?
                  It's declining since a few years. But porn will only get bigger in the comming years allthough a big part will be on "new" mediums (on demand digital television etc)

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                  • headless ghost
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                    • May 2005
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                    #10
                    they charge for cigarettes
                    porn is free

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                    • Donfoolio
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                      • Mar 2006
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Madrox
                      why would they? most people jack off to video samples that are the equivalent in size on a full computer screen...
                      people who jack it to small clips like that are too cheap/poor to get the full versions so why would they pay to put porn on their phone? I honestly don't see porn on phones blowing up big, maybe advertising on them but not selling direct to phones.
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                      • halfpint
                        GFY's Halfpint
                        • Jun 2007
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Donfoolio
                        people who jack it to small clips like that are too cheap/poor to get the full versions so why would they pay to put porn on their phone? I honestly don't see porn on phones blowing up big, maybe advertising on them but not selling direct to phones.
                        Thats a point, one person can download the clip to a mobile phone and give it to all their mates for free using blue tooth

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                        • Amputate Your Head
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                          • Aug 2001
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                          #13
                          Porn reached its peak at the end of 2004. It had a brief comeback at the end of the first quarter of 2005, but it's been downhill since then.

                          The boom is over.
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                          • ninavain
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6268

                            #14
                            Originally posted by billywatson
                            Just a few questions for ya'll to consider:

                            1) Is gambling at its peak?

                            2) Is alcohol consumption at its peak?

                            3) Is tobacco use at its peak?

                            These are the 4 legal/acceptable vices, and to me, they're gonna be here forever. Shit, even cancer hasn't really fucked up #3, right?
                            you left out 1 important factor...I CAN'T GET ANY OF THOSE 3 THINGS FOR FREE!!!! PORN IS FREEE and getting even MORE FREE.. Soon you'll pay surfers to view your porn, ( oh yea that's called affiliates)

                            $40-100PPS 100% revshare, just take 100 sets of my pictures and post them for free on the net, so I might hope for 1 guy to actually spend some money and charge it back in 3 months...Now a program offering 50% revshare is a joke ( Look out music industry, porn is on the way)
                            PORN is not dead at all..it's just FREE...like music..FREE

                            So I hope some of these pornstars and producers know how to make clothing lines and perfume

                            LOTS of big guys are hurting, traffic is dying and no one knows where it's going. I'm surprised not more big companies are posting threads about the slump in traffic and signups, but this is real.

                            I bet I can count on my hands how many affiliates make 5 figures a month

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                            • ninavain
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                              • Jan 2004
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                              Porn reached its peak at the end of 2004. It had a brief comeback at the end of the first quarter of 2005, but it's been downhill since then.

                              The boom is over.

                              correct. all of us seen a dip in signups JAN 2006 and each year that passes, signups will be getting lower and lower, while free rip off sites explode. We as producers of content, have to adapt to the changes of the market place and the surfer's habits and tastes, because they do change.. in 2005-06 we did 7 figures on NON NUDE sites..try to launch those same girls today.. you won't get shit

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                              • ninavain
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                                • Jan 2004
                                • 6268

                                #16
                                Originally posted by headless ghost
                                they charge for cigarettes
                                porn is free

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                                • halfpint
                                  GFY's Halfpint
                                  • Jun 2007
                                  • 15223

                                  #17
                                  Ok then if porn is becoming so cheap/free whats the next big money making step in using porn..maybe porn games using real actors in scenes at the end of each level that the user completes

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                                  • StickyGreen
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                                    • Oct 2003
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                                    #18
                                    How could porn be at a "peak?" As long as humans continue to have sex there will be a demand for pornography.
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                                    • halfpint
                                      GFY's Halfpint
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                      How could porn be at a "peak?" As long as humans continue to have sex there will be a demand for pornography.
                                      The program I watched was basicaly saying that the porn industry on the net is saturated and most things have been done in porn from hanging from a chanderler to fucking machines..ect, so people are looking for new and more exciting forms of porn be it with new technology or new kinds of websites.

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                                      • HouseHead
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                                        #20
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                                        • Barefootsies
                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 42635

                                          #21
                                          The only thing "declining" are the company's margins.

                                          More competition from both legal, and illegal (torrent, porntube, etc) avenues.
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                                          • billywatson
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                                            • Aug 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ninavain
                                            you left out 1 important factor...I CAN'T GET ANY OF THOSE 3 THINGS FOR FREE!!!! PORN IS FREEE and getting even MORE FREE.. Soon you'll pay surfers to view your porn, ( oh yea that's called affiliates)

                                            $40-100PPS 100% revshare, just take 100 sets of my pictures and post them for free on the net, so I might hope for 1 guy to actually spend some money and charge it back in 3 months...Now a program offering 50% revshare is a joke ( Look out music industry, porn is on the way)
                                            PORN is not dead at all..it's just FREE...like music..FREE

                                            So I hope some of these pornstars and producers know how to make clothing lines and perfume

                                            LOTS of big guys are hurting, traffic is dying and no one knows where it's going. I'm surprised not more big companies are posting threads about the slump in traffic and signups, but this is real.

                                            I bet I can count on my hands how many affiliates make 5 figures a month
                                            Awesome point I totally missed.

                                            And guess what?

                                            We're the only ones to blame.

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                                            • SilentKnight
                                              Megan Fox's fluffer
                                              • Oct 2005
                                              • 24812

                                              #23
                                              Perhaps there's a lesson to be learned from Forest Gump.

                                              A hurricane wiped out the entire shrimpin' boat fleet while Gump was out to sea. His was the only boat left intact - and he laughed all the way to the bank.

                                              Hell if I know what the lesson is...just be thankful Gump don't do porn.

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                                              • StickyGreen
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                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 13076

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                Perhaps there's a lesson to be learned from Forest Gump.

                                                A hurricane wiped out the entire shrimpin' boat fleet while Gump was out to sea. His was the only boat left intact - and he laughed all the way to the bank.

                                                Hell if I know what the lesson is...just be thankful Gump don't do porn.
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                                                • Dagwolf
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                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                  • 23141

                                                  #25
                                                  Peak? Not in volume and availability, not in sales amounts, but in saturation maybe. It's possible that the PERCENTAGE of the general population which is willing and able to purchase porn has peaked. Then again, maybe not.

                                                  I'll do a study for $300k, it will be very accurate and may take several years.
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                                                  • sysk
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                                                    • Aug 2007
                                                    • 1005

                                                    #26
                                                    interesting topic... if you are interested in the next big things of the future (not only related to porn), take a look at http://www.iftf.org/features/reports.html (institute for the future). I think that the 2 next big things, which are pretty much interrelated are :
                                                    1) GPS technologies ... soon, every cellphone will come with an integrated GPS
                                                    2) Context-aware gaming: computer games will be partially virtual and partially real. The context will be real (environement and other players), but the interactions will be virtual. Gamers will have special glasses that will incorporate virtual elements. Think of a real life pac man game hahaha

                                                    Both of those 2 technologies might have interesting applications to porn, but can't really find any right now.

                                                    Maybe it could be a cool thing to have an adult social networking site that uses GPS technology or GPS ad targeting. i.e When you surf the web with your cell phone, advertisements would be related to your location on earth. Let's say you're on corner of street X and street Y... you would see some McDo ads which is located at 10 meters of you... etc.
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                                                    • sysk
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                                                      #27
                                                      also http://future.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page is a good read for innovative ideas
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                                                      • martinsc
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                                                        • Jun 2005
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                                                        #28
                                                        there is no such thing - peak for porn...
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                                                        • Fap
                                                          Just Du It
                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                          • 12094

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pimpporn
                                                          There is no money in porn
                                                          I thought that was agreed on years ago

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                                                          • clicker
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                                                            • Jun 2006
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                                                            #30
                                                            What show was this? Got any links? Thanks

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                                                            • halfpint
                                                              GFY's Halfpint
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                                                              • 15223

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by clicker
                                                              What show was this? Got any links? Thanks
                                                              It was a TV Documentary on channel4 in the UK

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                                                              • Ross
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                                                                • Sep 2002
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Madrox
                                                                why would they? most people jack off to video samples that are the equivalent in size on a full computer screen...
                                                                I agree. And having porn on your mobile gives you the freedom to nip to a toilet at home/office/work wherever...

                                                                Mobile and iPod porn is gonna be huge but that doesn't mean internet porn is dead. They still need to be members of paysites to download it.

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                                                                • mistergardener
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                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                  • 746

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by pimpporn
                                                                  There is no money in porn
                                                                  Then why are you in the biz?

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                                                                  • Oldy
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                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 348

                                                                    #34
                                                                    PORN is equivalent to the LCD industry

                                                                    There will always be business, but the margins will be squeezed to pennies, everybody is fighting for the same pennies.

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                                                                    • SykkBoy2
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                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                      • 19969

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The demand for porn isn't peaking. It's probably more in demand than ever.
                                                                      How we monetize it is the biggest issue facing us.

                                                                      Also, there are more programs than ever before. Where one whale may have sent his traffic exclusively to one sponsor several years ago, these days, there isn't much loyalty and anyone with a lot of traffic is sending to multiple sponsors in case his main sponsor goes tits up. A lot of the big traffic senders also just simply opened their own paysites.

                                                                      This industry is a constant game of adapting.
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                                                                      • sweetpurple04
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                                                                        • Jan 2007
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Porn has been very very good to me :-0

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                                                                        • V_RocKs
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          I make a lot of money.... that is all I now.

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                                                                          • Brad
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                                                                            • Jan 2007
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Um, where to start?

                                                                            Don't listen to someone tell you about an industry they are not in and don't understand.

                                                                            Porn going to iPods and psp's, etc. Ask yourself...do you want to watch your porn on a 3.5 inch screen? Do you need to watch porn on the bus or train or plane? I didn't think so.

                                                                            The people that made that show probably just went on the web and looked for buzz words or what new trends are happening in the industry. They are the same people that are going to tell you all about web 2.0 when in reality it is just a collection of ideas and thoughts at this point.

                                                                            Has porn reached it's peak? How can you possibly say that until after the fact? it would be like saying you are at the peak of you life and then 10 years later winning the lottery (in case you are stupid I am saying you can only know where the peak is in hindsight).
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                                                                            • Brad
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Ross
                                                                              I agree. And having porn on your mobile gives you the freedom to nip to a toilet at home/office/work wherever...

                                                                              Mobile and iPod porn is gonna be huge but that doesn't mean internet porn is dead. They still need to be members of paysites to download it.
                                                                              It'll be a fad like ring tones. Sure first you will need to pay for the clips or movies because the encoding is different. But soon apple or someone will come out with a program to do it for you just like they just did with ring tones. People are not going to pay per download on their cell and if they were willing to then VOD sites would be killing it right now. Once again, people don't want to see content on a 3.5 inch screen.
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                                                                              • Dennis69
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by ninavain
                                                                                you left out 1 important factor...I CAN'T GET ANY OF THOSE 3 THINGS FOR FREE!!!! PORN IS FREEE and getting even MORE FREE.. Soon you'll pay surfers to view your porn, ( oh yea that's called affiliates)

                                                                                $40-100PPS 100% revshare, just take 100 sets of my pictures and post them for free on the net, so I might hope for 1 guy to actually spend some money and charge it back in 3 months...Now a program offering 50% revshare is a joke ( Look out music industry, porn is on the way)
                                                                                PORN is not dead at all..it's just FREE...like music..FREE

                                                                                So I hope some of these pornstars and producers know how to make clothing lines and perfume

                                                                                LOTS of big guys are hurting, traffic is dying and no one knows where it's going. I'm surprised not more big companies are posting threads about the slump in traffic and signups, but this is real.

                                                                                I bet I can count on my hands how many affiliates make 5 figures a month
                                                                                Good post... one of the better posts in this thread
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                                                                                • Lifer
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  As long as the population keeps growing there will be an increased demand for porn
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                                                                                  • Madame0120
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Has Porn Reached its Peak

                                                                                    No, but it is breathing heavy.



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                                                                                    • StarkReality
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                                                                                      • May 2004
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Porn hasn't reached it's peak, but the work vs. reward wise we are way over the peak....well, it went downhill from the beginning. There is still alot of money in porn, but today it takes alot more than a few years ago to make the same $$$$$ every month.

                                                                                      30k/month 10 years ago was as easy as learning how to build a dozen sites with a few galleries each with a crappy html editor.

                                                                                      Nowadays, you'll have to invest alot more to make the same. Have a look at what's hot at the moment: All those tube style sites are bandwidth hogs, building one needs at least some solid knowledge about programming and scripts.

                                                                                      Same for paysites, if it's not a small niche, you either need extreme high quality pics like MetArt, Femjoy, etc. or loads of videos, everything has to be exclusive, you have to update several times a month or even a week. 10 years ago one content CD and a few stream plugins made a big baller paysite.

                                                                                      The industry grew up. With a well positioned company, you will still be a big earner, but for freelancers it definately got harder.

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                                                                                      • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                                        • 18975

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Porn is not dead. Technology is just changing its distribution and profit centers.
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                                                                                        • Papillon
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by ninavain
                                                                                          you left out 1 important factor...I CAN'T GET ANY OF THOSE 3 THINGS FOR FREE!!!! PORN IS FREEE and getting even MORE FREE.. Soon you'll pay surfers to view your porn, ( oh yea that's called affiliates)

                                                                                          $40-100PPS 100% revshare, just take 100 sets of my pictures and post them for free on the net, so I might hope for 1 guy to actually spend some money and charge it back in 3 months...Now a program offering 50% revshare is a joke ( Look out music industry, porn is on the way)
                                                                                          PORN is not dead at all..it's just FREE...like music..FREE

                                                                                          So I hope some of these pornstars and producers know how to make clothing lines and perfume

                                                                                          LOTS of big guys are hurting, traffic is dying and no one knows where it's going. I'm surprised not more big companies are posting threads about the slump in traffic and signups, but this is real.

                                                                                          I bet I can count on my hands how many affiliates make 5 figures a month

                                                                                          lol sux to be you
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                                                                                          • ninavain
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                            • 6268

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Papillon
                                                                                            lol sux to be you
                                                                                            not me..I seen the writing on the wall, I'm one of the lucky 5 figures a month and it ain't with affiliate programs

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                                                                                            • HighEnergy
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                                                              • 806

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              "Has Porn Reached its Peak"

                                                                                              Probably, as you know it ...
                                                                                              The industry leaders aren't to be found here.

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                                                                                              • nation-x
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                innovation will change the environment... someone will invent a new way to make money. Personally I think it will be serving content in a different media... I think that we are still in the infancy of the internet and that one day there will be a marriage of sorts between cable tv and the internet... I am just not sure what that will look like or how it will work... but it's a sure bet.

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                                                                                                • mikesinner
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  If porn dies out I'll have to find some hoes to pimp

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                                                                                                  • celebnudevideo
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    The girl would be beheaded for taking off her veil

                                                                                                    Originally posted by halfpint
                                                                                                    lol you would be beheaded for that but a good idea

                                                                                                    I think the general idea of the "new" adult sites will need to be more interactive(like webcam shows) or something new where online adult users can interact with other users more. kinda make it more exciting instead of just watching movies or looking at pics by yourself and jacking off. Maybe those interactive suits or something
                                                                                                    but that would be an extra charge for surfers to see her both without veil and beheaded at the same time

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