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  • bhutocracy
    Not making A Comeback
    • Dec 2001
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    #101
    Originally posted by foe
    Some terrorism experts believe that we should fight Islamic fundamentalists by adopting psychological warfare tactics, such as did the British when they occupied the Protectorate of Palestine. According to Muslim belief, a "shahid" (suicide bomber) will be rewarded in heaven. However, any contact with a pig carcass or pork bars a Muslim's entry to heaven. When Palestinian Arab terrorists were captured by the British, they were executed in a public hanging with pieces of pork in their mouths, followed by head-down burials in post-holes. A similar tactic was used by the British in the1930's in India, when they buried the body of a Muslim terrorist in pig skin. The desecration was widely publicized, and the rash of suicide bombings ceased immediately. For Muslim terrorists, the threat of execution or life imprisonment is simply not a deterrent.

    http://www.angelfire.com/pr/flo/pj/chapter3.html

    This is just the first website I found ... Let me know if you need more sources.
    try snopes.
    I guess the palestinians could stop the israeli tanks by throwing un-kosher meat products at them.. a simplistic solution always looks nicer when confronting tough situations... if it were that simple we wouldn't have the current conflict.. the Koran has already been bent into a terrorist tool from yer average religious tome.. you don't think they can choose to believe dying for allah overrides a bit of pork once their "duty" is done???

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    • foe
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      #102
      Originally posted by bhutocracy


      try snopes.
      I guess the palestinians could stop the israeli tanks by throwing un-kosher meat products at them.. a simplistic solution always looks nicer when confronting tough situations... if it were that simple we wouldn't have the current conflict.. the Koran has already been bent into a terrorist tool from yer average religious tome.. you don't think they can choose to believe dying for allah overrides a bit of pork once their "duty" is done???
      HAHA funny you mention that becuase most Jews in Israel are in fact not religious and secular .... They just want to have a normal and safe life sort of like yours. But obviously you think thats unfair.

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      • bhutocracy
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        • Dec 2001
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        #103
        sure the psychological warfare aspect of it would have some impact.. it might even stop one or two bombers, but theres NO WAY IN HELL it would stop the suicide bombers as a whole.

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        • bhutocracy
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          • Dec 2001
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          #104
          Originally posted by foe
          But obviously you think thats unfair.
          ?
          um because I think that pigskins is a ridiculously simple idea?

          nice tangent.

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          • foe
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            #105
            Originally posted by bhutocracy


            try snopes.
            I guess the palestinians could stop the israeli tanks by throwing un-kosher meat products at them.. a simplistic solution always looks nicer when confronting tough situations... if it were that simple we wouldn't have the current conflict.. the Koran has already been bent into a terrorist tool from yer average religious tome.. you don't think they can choose to believe dying for allah overrides a bit of pork once their "duty" is done???
            Do you a have a source for this?

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            • foe
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              #106
              Originally posted by bhutocracy
              sure the psychological warfare aspect of it would have some impact.. it might even stop one or two bombers, but theres NO WAY IN HELL it would stop the suicide bombers as a whole.
              Completely agree with you it wont stop everyone, But even if it stops one or two bombers and saves a dozen lives its good right? So many some people may be saved like this girl who got mudered on her graduation day. How would you feel if that was your child?

              http://www.jpost.com/NASApp/cs/Conte...=1023716530022

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              • [Labret]
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                • May 2001
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                #107
                Originally posted by Kahane


                ...and your a goy...imagine that. Funny how those things work.


                - Kahane -
                Goy and proud.

                Inahl Rabak Ars Ya Choosharmuta.

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                • bhutocracy
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                  • Dec 2001
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by foe


                  Completely agree with you it wont stop everyone, But even if it stops one or two bombers and saves a dozen lives its good right? So many some people may be saved like this girl who got mudered on her graduation day. How would you feel if that was your child?

                  http://www.jpost.com/NASApp/cs/Conte...=1023716530022
                  Im not against trying it... sharon can go for it.. but i also think it could piss them off even more... and it's not a real solution. sure it might stop one or two.. and that's all good.. but at what cost to israel's reputation?

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                  • jas1552
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                    • May 2002
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by bhutocracy


                    try snopes.
                    I guess the palestinians could stop the israeli tanks by throwing un-kosher meat products at them.. a simplistic solution always looks nicer when confronting tough situations... if it were that simple we wouldn't have the current conflict.. the Koran has already been bent into a terrorist tool from yer average religious tome.. you don't think they can choose to believe dying for allah overrides a bit of pork once their "duty" is done???
                    I think the pigskin thing is a good idea. Also I would say kill the entire families of the suicide bombers and wrap them in pigskin also. Immediate and extended.
                    I think that would probably make them think twice.

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                    • foe
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by bhutocracy


                      Im not against trying it... sharon can go for it.. but i also think it could piss them off even more... and it's not a real solution. sure it might stop one or two.. and that's all good.. but at what cost to israel's reputation?
                      reputation is exactly why they arent doing it, another question are you for Israeli military incursions into the westbank to try to arrest terrorists and destroy bomb factories?
                      Last edited by foe; 06-20-2002, 05:37 PM.

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                      • Kahane
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                        • May 2002
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                        #111
                        Originally posted by [Labret]


                        Goy and proud.

                        Inahl Rabak Ars Ya Choosharmuta.
                        Slicha...We don't believe in hell. The effort doesn't go unappreciated though.

                        Tiz'dayen.

                        - Kahane -

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                        • foe
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                          #112
                          Originally posted by jas1552


                          I think the pigskin thing is a good idea. Also I would say kill the entire families of the suicide bombers and wrap them in pigskin also. Immediate and extended.
                          I think that would probably make them think twice.
                          Currently they destroy houses of the terrorist but even thats rare, there are new ideas on the table however like kicking out and exiling the families from the west bank and Israel.

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                          • [Labret]
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                            • May 2001
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                            #113
                            Originally posted by Kahane


                            Slicha...We don't believe in hell. The effort doesn't go unappreciated though.

                            Tiz'dayen.

                            - Kahane -
                            Tiz'dayeni

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                            • bhutocracy
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                              • Dec 2001
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                              #114
                              Originally posted by foe
                              are you for Israeli military incursions into the westbank to try to arrest terrorists and destroy bomb factories?
                              depends on how many civilians they manage to kill. other than that i don't give a damn about destroying bomb factories or lining up terrorists and shooting them.

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                              • Kahane
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                                • May 2002
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                                #115
                                Originally posted by [Labret]


                                Tiz'dayeni
                                Ani ish...put some effort into it. It's no fun to throw eggs at the clown when he just stands there.

                                - Kahane -

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                                • Goonx
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                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by Kahane


                                  Ani ish...put some effort into it. It's no fun to throw eggs at the clown when he just stands there.

                                  - Kahane -

                                  mmmm.... hebrew.... can I get in on this?

                                  Lehu tizdaynu shtehem ya husharmutot

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                                  • [Labret]
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                                    #117
                                    Why choose Kahane as nick?

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                                    • foe
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                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by [Labret]
                                      Why choose Kahane as nick?
                                      I know youll read this So contact me by icq when you can, bye

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                                      • GoodChris
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                                        #119
                                        Just wanted to state a few things..

                                        There are 2 BILLION Muslims in the world, not 1 million or 500 Million, 2 BILLION.

                                        < I just wanted to clear that up>

                                        As far as this pigskin thing goes, I think it is definitely worth a try, It may sway a few of these suicide bombers if it IS indeed a religious act that they believe they are performing.

                                        The US government should stay the fuck out of this, there are no taco bell's in israel, so they are really out of there territory there.


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                                        • 12clicks
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                                          • Jan 2001
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                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by GoodChris
                                          Just wanted to state a few things..

                                          There are 2 BILLION Muslims in the world, not 1 million or 500 Million, 2 BILLION.

                                          < I just wanted to clear that up>

                                          No one here was confused on that point
                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                          • foe
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                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by GoodChris
                                            Just wanted to state a few things..

                                            There are 2 BILLION Muslims in the world, not 1 million or 500 Million, 2 BILLION.

                                            < I just wanted to clear that up>

                                            As far as this pigskin thing goes, I think it is definitely worth a try, It may sway a few of these suicide bombers if it IS indeed a religious act that they believe they are performing.

                                            The US government should stay the fuck out of this, there are no taco bell's in israel, so they are really out of there territory there.
                                            Im sure there are, they have starbucks,mcdonalds, burger kings

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                                            • ChrisH
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                                              • Aug 2001
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                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by foe


                                              reputation is exactly why they arent doing it, another question are you for Israeli military incursions into the westbank to try to arrest terrorists and destroy bomb factories?
                                              They need to go through the West Bank, and exterminate all wanted terrorists!

                                              When Israel is on the offensive there are far less suicide bombers killing women and children!

                                              As far as the US staying out of it

                                              We are repeatedly asked to come into it, then when we do or don't we get slamed for whatever position we take. But count on one thing we will never allow the Jews to be pushed into the sea!
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                                              • foe
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                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by ChrisH


                                                They need to go through the West Bank, and exterminate all wanted terrorists!

                                                When Israel is on the offensive there are far less suicide bombers killing women and children!

                                                As far as the US staying out of it

                                                We are repeatedly asked to come into it, then when we do or don't we get slamed for whatever position we take. But count on one thing we will never allow the Jews to be pushed into the sea!
                                                Never say never its been less than 60 years and look how quickly the world changes almost every decade. During the Yom Kipur war of 1973 Israel came very close to being anhialated.... Dont think it cant happen again.

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                                                • GoodChris
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                                                  #124
                                                  Do the americans really give a shit or is it once again just about making sure they keep the oil market under control by playing abll with the right people?

                                                  and the Jews DO run the media, kinda...


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                                                  • ChrisH
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                                                    #125
                                                    foe,
                                                    Everytime they've been attacked they have won land.

                                                    Do you think this is the same Israeli Military?

                                                    Lets no forget they have nuclear weapons.

                                                    Never Happen!!
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                                                    • ChrisH
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                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by GoodChris
                                                      Do the americans really give a shit or is it once again just about making sure they keep the oil market under control by playing abll with the right people?

                                                      and the Jews DO run the media, kinda...

                                                      Chris,
                                                      Us helping the Jews in the 70's got us an oil embargo. So helping Israel is not helping us with cheap oil..

                                                      Pump Russia.... Pump... We won't need OPEC in a few years anyway!
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                                                      • foe
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                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by ChrisH
                                                        foe,
                                                        Everytime they've been attacked they have won land.

                                                        Do you think this is the same Israeli Military?

                                                        Lets no forget they have nuclear weapons.

                                                        Never Happen!!
                                                        Nobody said militarily, as you know arabs want to make a couple million (forgot exact number) arabs settle in Israel, if that happens well there will be more arabs than jews living in Israel which means Israel can no longer be a democracy and it will spiral from there.

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                                                        • [Labret]
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                                                          • May 2001
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                                                          #128
                                                          I just watched sum of all fears.

                                                          Bad movie. Very bad movie.

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                                                          • foe
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                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by [Labret]
                                                            I just watched sum of all fears.

                                                            Bad movie. Very bad movie.
                                                            I read the first chapter of the book than said fuck it, liked the first chapter though. About the movie they fucked it up in the book I heard its arab terrorists which woudl make more sence to make the two main nuclear powers fight and ME for the most part will be untouched blah blah blah. I dunno overall pretty unrealistic.

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                                                            • GoodChris
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                                                              #130
                                                              I swear to god, I think that EVERYthing on this fucking planet revolves around oil....

                                                              Alternative source of energy i.e. hydrogen conversion would change everything.. The US feeds the middle east its money and in turn they use that money to fight land wars...quit feedeing em, thats the best method of stopping this shit, let em worry about food , shelter and clothing instead of where to bomb next.


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                                                              • foe
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                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by GoodChris
                                                                I swear to god, I think that EVERYthing on this fucking planet revolves around oil....

                                                                Alternative source of energy i.e. hydrogen conversion would change everything.. The US feeds the middle east its money and in turn they use that money to fight land wars...quit feedeing em, thats the best method of stopping this shit, let em worry about food , shelter and clothing instead of where to bomb next.
                                                                But theres one thing you forgot to mention we NEED the oil

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                                                                • FATPad
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                                                                  #132
                                                                  More fighting. Palestinian gunman kills 5 Israelis...50 Israeli tanks respond by taking over another town.

                                                                  http://www.msnbc.com/news/677951.asp
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                                                                  • GoodChris
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                                                                    #133
                                                                    no, we NEED to allow the ALREADY invented alternative energy soucres to be implemented.

                                                                    The Electric car has been developed for over 20 years and EVERYtime someone tries to bring it to market, they get killed... now the hybrid has been allowed.

                                                                    we THINK we need oil, but really it is a conspiracy by certain powers to keep their bank accounts full....I'm not gonna (Bush Family) name anyone, but (Bush Family, Saudi Royals, Carlisle Group) its not that we need it, we are led to believe we do.

                                                                    We are depleting the Earth of its resources and its gonna kill us all in the end. This planet is gonna turn around a kill ALL of us because of our abuse. Just like the human body needs water, the planet needs its oil.. Its ecology 101.

                                                                    What do we need oil for, cars? no we don't.
                                                                    Heating? No we don't.

                                                                    Solar power? yes.... we can get enough energy from the suns resources alone to NEVER need oil.

                                                                    Hydrogen conversion was invented 20 years ago. Its in use now. It converts the friggin water into energy. Yet if you try to get it to market, TOO many world leaders disallow it as it would fuck up the oil trade.

                                                                    Lets be realistic about things here.


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                                                                    • foe
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                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by FATPad
                                                                      More fighting. Palestinian gunman kills 5 Israelis...50 Israeli tanks respond by taking over another town.

                                                                      http://www.msnbc.com/news/677951.asp
                                                                      A desperate situation requires desperate actions. I htink Ramallah is next

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                                                                      • FATPad
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                                                                        #135
                                                                        "At least five Israelis, three of them children, were killed, a medical worker said."

                                                                        More targetting of children. Pathetic.
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                                                                        • foe
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                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by GoodChris
                                                                          no, we NEED to allow the ALREADY invented alternative energy soucres to be implemented.

                                                                          The Electric car has been developed for over 20 years and EVERYtime someone tries to bring it to market, they get killed... now the hybrid has been allowed.

                                                                          we THINK we need oil, but really it is a conspiracy by certain powers to keep their bank accounts full....I'm not gonna (Bush Family) name anyone, but (Bush Family, Saudi Royals, Carlisle Group) its not that we need it, we are led to believe we do.

                                                                          We are depleting the Earth of its resources and its gonna kill us all in the end. This planet is gonna turn around a kill ALL of us because of our abuse. Just like the human body needs water, the planet needs its oil.. Its ecology 101.



                                                                          Lets be realistic about things here.
                                                                          I remember watching a show which said 90 years ago GM ford or some other company had an electric that went for 110 miles on a single charge and still works today, Now with computers etc .... Electric cars have a range of 120 miles. basically the idea was dropped and never develped. I think Hybrids are the future as well, but that technology will take time.

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                                                                          • [Labret]
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                                                                            #137

                                                                            Itamar, where some of the most militant Israeli settlers in the West Bank live, is not fenced in. Settlers insist that the whole West Bank belongs to the Jews


                                                                            Thats what happens when you live on stolen land.

                                                                            They are assholes for making their children live there.

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                                                                            • GoodChris
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                                                                              #138
                                                                              So then the point is made...we don't need oil..

                                                                              and most of the conflicts arise because of land struggle which really goes back to "show me the oil"..

                                                                              I do agree that the palestine/Iraeli thing is more of a different kind of war, but US involvement is usually based around oil.


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                                                                              • GoodChris
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                                                                                #139
                                                                                ok, gotta run...

                                                                                Time to watch Bill Maher.


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                                                                                • [Labret]
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                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Why dont the Canadians donate a parcel of land and let all the Israelis live there?

                                                                                  Problem solved.

                                                                                  I will accept my nobel peace prize now.

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                                                                                  • foe
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                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by [Labret]


                                                                                    Thats what happens when you live on stolen land.

                                                                                    They are assholes for making their children live there. [/B]
                                                                                    From who was it stolen? Jordanians are the ones that owned it before and Israel even offered to give the land back to the Jordanians who refused to take it.

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                                                                                    • GoodChris
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                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Mr. Anti-Canada to the rescue..

                                                                                      Hey, we already gave you Celine Dion..now leave us alone.


                                                                                      Thank god shes gone.


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                                                                                      • FATPad
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                                                                                        #143
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                                                                                        • [Labret]
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                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Its all stolen land.

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                                                                                          • mischief
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                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            posted by labret:
                                                                                            Its all stolen land.
                                                                                            That's a ridiculous statement, no land is really owned, and it is all stolen, including the land your house is built on, what's the difference?
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                                                                                            • foe
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                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              The US "stole" land from the indians, if they start killing our children shoudl we just stand by becuase we "stole" land from them

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                                                                                              • [Labret]
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                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Lets put it his way, if A.I.M. started bombing houses in and around the United States and Canada, I would understand why they did it.

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                                                                                                • Rose
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                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Watch out Canada, Labret is coming with bomb around his neck
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                                                                                                  • drumsicle
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                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Labret's stolen land mantra. Give your land back to the Indians labret.
                                                                                                    Another worthless post?

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                                                                                                    • Goonx
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                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Its not stolen.... we came, we saw, we conquered. End of story! And we're gonna kick the ass of every fucker that tries to take it away!

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