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  • BFT3K
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2005
    • 10764
    #16
    Originally posted by Vendzilla
    So that makes it right?

    Been reading the bugdet proposal for 2013 for green energy? LOL
    How much does Obama propose we invest in green technologies?

    Anywhere near the $40 BILLION the Oil Companies save in tax breaks every year?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...ax-breaks.html

    You know what the word PROGRESSIVE means?

    Hint: The root of the word is "progress" not "status quo, controlled by greedy assholes".

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      • TheDoc
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2001
        • 13827
        #17
        Originally posted by Vendzilla
        So that makes it right?

        Been reading the bugdet proposal for 2013 for green energy? LOL
        It depends on the type of cronyism... outer circle cronyism (hiring or contracts to friends, family, etc) when it relates to an "important job" is VERY bad, that's what Reagan did.

        Every President has an inner circle, projects, ideas, states, shifting of budgets, etc, etc etc... go to these people. As long as the President isn't playing favoritism to one (or all) then it's fine. Bush Jr. was the President that abused this.
        ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
        It's all disambiguation

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          • D Ghost
            null
            • May 2006
            • 9820
            #18
            Originally posted by Vendzilla
            I do believe we should keep the seas safe, but we don't need to rebuild nations with armed forces!
            Agreed. We should help our allies in need, and defend our nation. But not try and police the world at our American taxpayer's expense

            I am pro-military, it's a necessary institution. I've have many relatives who are veterans and many friends. The military has done a great deal of good for their lives. But the over bloated spending has to stop.
            Last edited by D Ghost; 02-20-2012, 09:17 PM.

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              • porno jew
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Nov 2006
                • 10166
                #19
                i guess pulling out iraq was nothing at all. you been high for the last three years? serious question.

                it's like you are getting your news from an alternate universe.

                Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                ?Yes, our military will be leaner, but the world must know the United States is going to maintain our military superiority with armed forces that are agile, flexible and ready for the full range of contingencies and threats,? Obama said.

                "Maintaining superiority" isn't exactly the sort of rhetoric I'd expect from someone looking to put a damper in the "military industrial complex"

                How many bases will be closing? How much less will be spent? Even if he cut $400 Billion from it, we would still be spending far more on military than any other country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_expenditures


                Got a long way to go on that one. And talk is cheap, let's see it happen.

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                  • D Ghost
                    null
                    • May 2006
                    • 9820
                    #20
                    Originally posted by porno jew
                    i guess pulling out iraq was nothing at all. you been high for the last three years? serious question.

                    it's like you are getting your news from an alternate universe.
                    That should have been done 5 years ago, or never in the first place. Just because one administration does something, doesn't mean they are going to drastically change the face of the military complex and spending issue. They're just the one who gets credit for it. You cannot be this naive to think it was Obama's idea to do this.

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                      • BIGTYMER
                        Junior Achiever
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 17066
                        #21
                        Originally posted by bronco67
                        As long as people will be charge of shit, then there will be corruption. This is why I welcome my future robot overlords. They don't care about ripping off my tax dollars, as long as I put in a good, solid day in the mines.

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                          • BFT3K
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 10764
                            #22
                            Do you know who sponsors who in Washington?

                            Maybe our politicians should wear logos, like NASCAR...

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                              • porno jew
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 10166
                                #23
                                Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                That should have been done 5 years ago, or never in the first place. Just because one administration does something, doesn't mean they are going to drastically change the face of the military complex and spending issue. They're just the one who gets credit for it. You cannot be this naive to think it was Obama's idea to do this.
                                this doesn't even make sense really.

                                anyways, whose idea was it then?

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                                  • Vendzilla
                                    Biker Gnome
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 23200
                                    #24
                                    Originally posted by TheDoc
                                    It depends on the type of cronyism... outer circle cronyism (hiring or contracts to friends, family, etc) when it relates to an "important job" is VERY bad, that's what Reagan did.

                                    Every President has an inner circle, projects, ideas, states, shifting of budgets, etc, etc etc... go to these people. As long as the President isn't playing favoritism to one (or all) then it's fine. Bush Jr. was the President that abused this.
                                    you do know about Beacon Power, Ener1 and Solyndra right?
                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                    think about that

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                                      • TheDoc
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 13827
                                        #25
                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                        you do know about Beacon Power, Ener1 and Solyndra right?
                                        Yep... that's called an inner circle, well kinda of a separated inner circle, but close enough.

                                        Washington was the first.... and it never stopped.
                                        ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                        It's all disambiguation

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                                          • Vendzilla
                                            Biker Gnome
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 23200
                                            #26
                                            Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                            Agreed. We should help our allies in need, and defend our nation. But not try and police the world at our American taxpayer's expense

                                            I am pro-military, it's a necessary institution. I've have many relatives who are veterans and many friends. The military has done a great deal of good for their lives. But the over bloated spending has to stop.
                                            Those carriers can run on one reactor and use the second one to power a city, provide fresh water from the bay, airport for supplies and a full hospital. I thought is was pretty cool when I heard about it.
                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                            think about that

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                                              • 2012
                                                So Fucking What
                                                • Jul 2006
                                                • 17189
                                                #27
                                                Originally posted by pumpercloggs
                                                I hope you all can share links like this ^ with everyone you know.
                                                I used to do things like that. Nobody gives a fuck . About anything ... get high.
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                                                  • Vendzilla
                                                    Biker Gnome
                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 23200
                                                    #28
                                                    Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                    Yep... that's called an inner circle, well kinda of a separated inner circle, but close enough.

                                                    Washington was the first.... and it never stopped.
                                                    Yeah, I just love that Barry is going to throw more money at it
                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                    think about that

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                                                      • TheDoc
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 13827
                                                        #29
                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                        Yeah, I just love that Barry is going to throw more money at it
                                                        He's not throwing more at it, he already approved and set aside the money.

                                                        Other Countries are leaving us in the dust with green technology, which is 100% working for them. If we don't start producing our own, we're going to have to buy from them, and be right back in the same shit hole that we're in now.

                                                        Historically the Gov loans / backs major projects like this.... if you agree with them or not makes no difference, at this point if it was Obama doing the interstate highway system, you would be against it.
                                                        ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                        It's all disambiguation

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                                                          • DWB
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 31779
                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by dj the kid
                                                            this is, and has been, standard procedure in us politics and administrations for quite some time. Whether republican or democrat, they all do it, two sides of the same coin.

                                                            When i see people claim allegiance to either party, i find it quite amusing.
                                                            +1

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