TheHun is now showing all galleries in a frame.. isn't that a huge cookie issue?

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  • The Hun
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 1207

    #46
    Originally posted by sixsax
    You have got to be fucking kidding me. For the third motherfucking time, a frame is a third party object hence cookies set in a frame are THIRD PARTY COOKIES! Any stupid asshole can go Google it to prove you wrong. If you're not trying to manipulate people and it's your developer feeding you this bullshit, fire him on the spot.
    what's in a name...

    I mean, if it's in a frame it's not really third party cookie, is it? If for instance thehun.net loads a frame from kinghost.com and kinghost sets a cookie thehun can't get to that cookie without some sort of server side code. So a domain can only get to the cookies it set itself. That's not really third party to me since a third party wouldn't be able to set a cookie for a second party... only on a frame on his own domain.

    Now if this whole discussion is based on my literal translation of third party cookies and the term 'third party cookies' means that a domain, no matter how deep in frames it's hidden, can set a cookie on a computer you're right... that can easily be done. No problem

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    • sixsax
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2006
      • 213

      #47
      Originally posted by The Hun
      what's in a name...

      I mean, if it's in a frame it's not really third party cookie, is it? If for instance thehun.net loads a frame from kinghost.com and kinghost sets a cookie thehun can't get to that cookie without some sort of server side code. So a domain can only get to the cookies it set itself. That's not really third party to me since a third party wouldn't be able to set a cookie for a second party... only on a frame on his own domain.

      Now if this whole discussion is based on my literal translation of third party cookies and the term 'third party cookies' means that a domain, no matter how deep in frames it's hidden, can set a cookie on a computer you're right... that can easily be done. No problem
      Ok, I think you're mixing things up. The problem is not security related, no modern browser allows domain A to read cookies set by domain B. The problem is privacy related.

      When I visit domain A and domain A includes a page from domain B in a frame, domain B is considered a third party object by the browser, because I never requested domain B. Therefore domain B can be limited in its ability to set cookies, not just for domain A which it never can, but also for itself, domain B.

      As I wrote earlier, I don't think it will be a major loss, but it's simply not true that is has no effect.

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      • The Hun
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2001
        • 1207

        #48
        Oh that... I read that all over google ;-)

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        • nikki99
          Supermodel
          • Nov 2004
          • 23087

          #49
          gotta love the hun!
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          • raymor
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2002
            • 3745

            #50
            Originally posted by The Hun
            what's in a name...

            I mean, if it's in a frame it's not really third party cookie, is it? If for instance thehun.net loads a frame from kinghost.com and kinghost sets a cookie thehun can't get to that cookie without some sort of server side code. So a domain can only get to the cookies it set itself. That's not really third party to me since a third party wouldn't be able to set a cookie for a second party... only on a frame on his own domain.

            Now if this whole discussion is based on my literal translation of third party cookies and the term 'third party cookies' means that a domain, no matter how deep in frames it's hidden, can set a cookie on a computer you're right... that can easily be done. No problem
            "Third party cookie" is a technical term with a precise meaning and it's not what it sounds like. It does not mean a.com setting a cookie to be read by b.com. It means a cookie set by an image, frame, or other object on a domain different from the main page. Do if you frame a page, any cookie set by the framed page is called a third party cookie.

            Third party cookies became interesting when ad networks starting using them. A.com would have a banner or frame from adtracker.com. B.com also runs a banner or frame from adtracker.com. With third party cookies allowed, adtracker.com could then track the user across both a.com and b.com. Privacy advocates didn't like that.
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            • JFK
              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
              • Jan 2002
              • 67373

              #51
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              • Darkcrni
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2007
                • 1704

                #52
                Hun guys am having problem logging at "The Hun Management Area".

                Anybody else having this problem?

                Its almost all day now.

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                • The Hun
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 1207

                  #53
                  we are going through a less-then-fortunate server upgrade right now. We had to move to a new server. That too was from 1995 almost ;-)

                  the move was a bit harsh to my taste, especially now it results in some odds and pieces not functioning the way they should... we'll get on the webmaster submit ASAP to make sure that's working.

                  and as soon as the update is done I'll start on the priority thing... that has been on the agenda for far too long now ;-)

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                  • CaptainHowdy
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 94725

                    #54
                    Nothing changes my feelings towards The Hun ...

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                    • The Hun
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 1207

                      #55
                      Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                      Nothing changes my feelings towards The Hun ...
                      that can be explained in to very contrasting ways ;-)

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                      • The Hun
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 1207

                        #56
                        'to' should be 'two' obviously... I thought this thing used to have an edit function as well? or did too many people chicken out of their comments too often?

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                        • garce
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 7103

                          #57
                          Originally posted by nikki99
                          gotta love the hun!
                          No, you don't. Maybe at one time you did have to love "The Hun", but you don't have to anymore.

                          I'm not following all this crap, but every program on the face of the earth can delete your account and keep your money if you load their content (or site) in a frame.

                          I have no idea what desperate is as desperate does is doing, but if you have sponsor shit being loaded in a frame - it might be a good idea to tread carefully. I'll assume that The Hun is opening sponsor links in a new window or tab but - if they're not - umm, well, thanks for the traffic.

                          They'd be better off redirecting the domain to a hosted Pimproll tube. I'm not being negative - I owe my whole "career" to The Hun and AL4A.



                          Still love you, Nikki... Whether that's a good thing or not I dunno.

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                          • The Hun
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 1207

                            #58
                            Originally posted by garce
                            No, you don't. Maybe at one time you did have to love "The Hun", but you don't have to anymore.

                            I'm not following all this crap, but every program on the face of the earth can delete your account and keep your money if you load their content (or site) in a frame.

                            I have no idea what desperate is as desperate does is doing, but if you have sponsor shit being loaded in a frame - it might be a good idea to tread carefully. I'll assume that The Hun is opening sponsor links in a new window or tab but - if they're not - umm, well, thanks for the traffic.
                            yes... ok... very helpful... very constructive as well. Ah well, I'm used to that by now, don't worry ;-)...

                            Why do people always look at the down sides of things? Open the sponsor in a new window, or put a target='_top' in there to escape from the frame. Is that really such a huge, unmountable problem?? The votes bring in a lot more extra traffic. So do the 'more links from this submitter'. I know this industry well enough though that the skepticists out there tend not to look at the upside of things. I think I know what I'm doing... don't worry, I'm laughed at before TGP's were even called TGP's... Guess I proved the skeptics wrong before. If you don't believe in this, redirect your traffic to a tube. If you do believe in this enjoy the traffic we send. It's free and it's still a lot! And it's starting to get more as well, so we must be doing something right!

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                            • porno jew
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 10166

                              #59
                              i think the iframes are a great idea mr. hun don't listen to these haters.

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                              • georgeyw
                                58008 53773
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 9865

                                #60
                                Originally posted by The Hun
                                yes... ok... very helpful... very constructive as well. Ah well, I'm used to that by now, don't worry ;-)...

                                Why do people always look at the down sides of things? Open the sponsor in a new window, or put a target='_top' in there to escape from the frame. Is that really such a huge, unmountable problem?? The votes bring in a lot more extra traffic. So do the 'more links from this submitter'. I know this industry well enough though that the skepticists out there tend not to look at the upside of things. I think I know what I'm doing... don't worry, I'm laughed at before TGP's were even called TGP's... Guess I proved the skeptics wrong before. If you don't believe in this, redirect your traffic to a tube. If you do believe in this enjoy the traffic we send. It's free and it's still a lot! And it's starting to get more as well, so we must be doing something right!
                                What about having the gallerys leave the frame when there is a click on a sponsor link?

                                I do not see the use in keeping the frame when the person leaves the site.
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