money on blogs

Yeah it's definitely not a quick way to cash, you're right about that. Blog networks take time and hard work before you start to see the payoffs (although I'm sure there's some lucky people that hit it off instantly with a high quality blog). I would say the only thing I really hate about building blogs is just the tediousness of it all. Sometimes you have to push yourself to keep working when it gets very boring.

+1 for the follow up.

bump for a great thread!

Such a good read and so very refreshing to see something other than a copy/paste or a catfight

some great reading

It can get very boring indeed, which is why I stagger the niches constantly and add new ones. Even if I am doing well on a particular niche I find that it gets far too tedious and I get burned out, so I make a list of all potential blogs/keywords and stagger them.

I find this has two effects-
1)keeps me from being bored silly
2)when i come back to a niche and do a blog i am writing fresh text, i don't even think about the previous blogs in that same niche so I keep it as original and SE friendly as possible.

bumperoni for a great thread

Hey folks, wanted to post another update on this. I recently have been spending more time on keyword and good domain searching than anything for the network. I also have about 3 customized themes I'm using now to help makes things a bit easier when banging out some new blogs. Something else I have recently started doing was spreading out the blogs on a few ips. Nothing crazy, I'm not an SEO guru but I've been trying to act like it a bit more these days at least. For the most part its common sense in my opinion but I don't really know much seo.

The one thing I am trying to determine is will trying to rank for the same keyword on multiple blogs on the same host and ip make a difference? Example, let's say I want to make a interracial porn blog and rank for "interracial sex". Would it be a bad idea to try and rank for that same keyword on multiple domains on that ip? Anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself here. The build out is coming slow but progress it taking place.

For those of you looking to get involved in this type of thing it will be LOTS of work. BUT, there is light at the end of the tunnel I am hoping. One thing I really try and do is just accomplish 1 thing per day with it. Focus on getting one thing done per day that way something is made daily in terms of progression. Hope everyone has a great weekend! TGIF!

i started a blog a few years ago as a side project. it became a 5 blog network - posted daily each on a specific niche. the natural seo of WP is great and with some optimization you can serp out pretty well. it did okay, traffic was okay and so were conversion rates especially within the niche.

as an affiliate for the amount of work put though it just wasn't worth it, some of those blogs sit dormant but still grab traffic now.

i did find that adding a blog as a compliment to a paysite marketing campaign is a good idea and should be considered a requirement.

there is one guy (not sure who it is) but he's got a pretty massive blog network out there and has all major "star" serps locked down, using WP as a landing page more less.

I found out that the WordPress theme we use in some blogs have a great impact in traffic and SEO. I compared two similar blogs, one with a SEO Optimized professional WordPress theme we bought for 60 bucks and the other with a free theme. Both Blogs have similar quantity of posts and are the same age.. however one of them receives 3K daily traffic, and the other only 500 hits... I never thought the WP theme was reallt THAT important, until I found out this.

BTW, how are you doing with WEBCAMS? I really cant convert cams, no matter how hard I try or what I do... they are IMPOSSIBLE to convert... What's the secret? or any advices?

cheers.

Awesome stuff!

I just did a traffic check and it seems like my hard work is paying off a bit. However I am not building fast enough. It's ALOT of work if you are a one man show! Anyway, sales haven't increased much but here is some data of my traffic:

I've been trying to build out fast and with many updates but I can only do so much. Traffic is up 11.76% over a one month trend. Sales are not up at all. I imagine the increase is due to directory traffic and building fast for the most part. I need to find other ways besides initial submissions to directories to really pump the traffic up on some of these within the network. I also have been thinking of creating one blog that pulls feeds from every blog in the network and have that be the main network blog. Good idea or bad?

It's funny but so true, maybe it's just my imagination but it seems like the blogs I make using WPs default theme end up making more money then the ones I spend a lot of time on using custom themes.

That's good news you're seeing it start to pay off! Just keep at it and don't stop!...when I first started my network I would get very frustrated by how little all my blogs were making and then BAM the sales just started coming in all at once. I respect all the guys on here who work with large adult blog networks, it's seems easy but it really can be such a pain in the ass sometimes.

I just posted this on a newbie forum about how to make and keep up on lots of handwritten blogs if you need some organization:

"Hey everyone! It's been a while since I've posted something new, hopefully this can be useful to some. I've decided to show you how to search for niches and terms that interested people will search for and how to keep up on them.

I'm going to use Thumblogger as my free blog host example. Keep in mind that you can only create 5 new blogs/day now but still create the max and do the same on other hosts or create your own blog network with WPMU. I wouldn't recommend using this technique with Sensual Writer, though, since you will most likely get a 203 error quick...

First of all, look around for a good, reputable sponsor that has a good amount of niches and niche specific paysites with good blogging content. Check my sig, I definitely recommend Payserve, PIMPROLL, and Fetish Hits for this

To start, create an Excel or Open Office cell document and create these cells:
URL/NICHE/SPONSOR/SUBMITEDTODIRECTORIES(y/n)/BACKLINKED(y/)/DATEUPDATEDUNTIL

The important cells are URL and DATEUPDATEDUNTIL so that once you have a huge list, you can easily sort out which blogs that you'll have to update next and when, you'll see why in a sec.

A random note: For good quality niche sites with good content and hotlinkable images for FHGs intended for blogging that convert and rebill well, definitely try this with Payserve!

So, now that you are ready to start, first of all you'll have to do some keyword research to make sure what you are typing about will attract surfers from SEs. The way I do this is I go to https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal then type a lot of variations for the title of the blog that I'm going to create based on the niche and promo content that I have available. When you do this, make sure you check "EXACT" on the left and not "BROAD", this can cause incorrect results and have you going on a wild goose chase in some cases... and turn on adult results. Once you have a subdomain and title figure out, go back to Googles keyword tool and type in a lot of general to specific niche title idea variations based on the promo content you have and also sort through the suggested results. Use these results as bases for blog post titles and related keywords to use in content text and for image img and alt tags.

Now that you have your list, create about 10 blog posts to start, about 4-8ish sentences each depending on the content. Image galleries are much easier to type about quickly too and seem to convert just as well for me as opposed to MGPs.

After 8-10 manual posts, now create scheduled posts, about 1-3 posts per week and create enough scheduled posts to last a few months, Id say about 4-8 months each depending on how many blogs you plan on creating and how often you plan on coming back to create new posts.

Once you finish each blog, now input the info into the .xls file and then do your usual SEO with <title><meta name='keywords'><meta name='description'> with description being the same as your description under the header using main keywords, do abc or abcd backlinking with other blogs in your list with the same or similar niches/micro niches, then submit to good blog directories like www.adultblogresource.com/submitter and hand submit to SEs like Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc.

Now repeat and use the .xls file to sort by date to see when the next updates are needed

Duplicate content is making splogging with RSS and CSV output more pointless every day so this method will allow you to keep up on semi-auto handwritten blogs by the masses that are SEO friendly."

Could be useful, I guess

Might have been useful in 2007, things have changed.

What's a better way to get targeted niche SE traffic, then? Not to be a dick, I just want to know

AdultKing, since "things have changed" how about enlightening us all on what works today? What is a better way? A proven way? What way works specifically for you? I'm sure the community as a whole would be greatful to hear what's proven to work since things have changed.

seems to be working for him. what is wrong? with insight from practice, not theory.

It definitely is..

Thanks for the helpful information

Colmike7,
Solid contribution to the thread. Thanks for giving some helpful information my friend.

Sure, blogging is fun

Plus, what I wrote was a base about keeping up on handwritten blogs and general keyword research so you aren't writing about something that someone will only accidentally come across on a directory or something. Extensive keyword research alone would take a few pages for me to explain..

There are also a lot of other things that you can do to optimize your blogs like putting up sidebar ads with selling text below each one in similar niches, put up niche cam or paysite specific ad as a sticky text, popunder ads, thousands of WP widgets to choose from if you're using WPMU, when you find a niche that sells you could make a handful of mirror blogs with the same site niche content with different selling text and ads to see which combos work best but with different titles/descr to make it unique, etc. And definitely repeat what makes sales for you ;)

What worked in '07 were lots of RSS, CSV and imported splogs. Morphing feeds are becoming just as useful as importing a feed...

Sure I check ICQ messages a lot too so feel free to ask any questions. Just not right now, I'm not too sober..

always nice to see some useful infos

Yesterday, I've just noticed that one of my blogs have 2 posts. And it was online for years, I don't know where they are

if we are talking about blogs.. see sig!

I like it!

Going to try it out on a few

Beks, how are you getting 2257 info for your blogs?

I had a small blog network, consisting of 30 sites, that was seeing decent traffic but, when I started getting visitors coming from law offices on a regular basis, I figured I wouldn't take any chances with 2257.

I know they were most likely paralegals surfing for porn or someone doing some research to prepare a cease and desist, and had nothing to do with 2257, but it made me think.

I was getting 1:7000 ratios but had 300+ 2257 violations.

I was promoting an oversaturated program but I didn't feel that it was worth taking a chance, even if I improved my conversion rate.

I realize that most bloggers, and affiliates in general, do not comply with 2257.

Even though I've never heard of many people getting fucked over by 2257 regs, I still would like to comply.

Do you know of any ways?

The best way to be sure is to consult a lawyer for porn laws in your area, don't rely on what people say on a board..

Also, I usually blog with mature or obviously not teen content and if I do, I use topless images at most linking to my sponsor's hosted gallery with 2257. (This helps with clicks in to galleries and conversion ratios as well) and hotlink the ones that aren't.

I'm not sure if you were thinking I was asking how to be 2257 compliant but I am more interested in how to get the docs required to be compliant.

Regardless, I've asked this question of a few lawyers and they've pretty much said the same thing; The only way to get 2257 docs is from content providers.

Of course, It wasn't paid advice so I doubt they put much effort in their response.

I was actually blogging with NonNude content but I had two lawyers tell me that, because of text and certain positions the models had taken, I may be required to comply with 2257- but that's a different story.

Mike, do you know of any ways to get 2257 docs besides buying content?

(Sorry for jacking this thread, beks)

Not really without just using the nude content that's already hosted on my sponsor's sites with 2257 there. Every affiliate manager that I've asked won't touch the discussion..

To get back on topic, thought I'd mention that if you blog with handwritten scheduled posts, or any kind for that matter, and using WP I definitely recommend using a ping widget that pings posts and services as they are posted with customizable ping list and not the default WP ping function since it can ping incorrectly and in some cases cause your blogs from being banned from some services..

Search my posts, I have posted ad infinitum about blogging strategy.

Also, the excel spreadsheet thing is one idea, but you can automate the lot with something like Mars Edit (Mac) or some of the better multiblog management tools for Windows.

Keyword research is complicated but tools like Market Samurai will ease the pain, if you can afford it Raven Tools will help you even more.

Searching for "exact match" on the Google keyword tool will not help you attract the broad match results you want to rank for, it will only help you for specific longer tail searches and while these are important, broad ranking is the key to making real money with a blog.

Read my many posts on keyword research, blogging and outsourcing. If you want to make serious impact you need to be smart.

Read Medium Pimpin's explanation on his blog network , how he's built it and how it makes money.

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18222642&postcount=22

This subject has been done to death on this board and Colmike7 is so far off the mark in most of the bullshit he's spewing in this thread I just can't be bothered picking it apart.

4 to 8 sentences hey ?

Can anyone say "shallow content"

Welcome to Panda/Farmer, 4 to 8 sentences wont cut it in 2012. You need quality well written content of substance.

When approximately can you start earning money from totally new blog you just made? For example 10 posts on the blog. 2 months?

HEY LAME ASS!!!!

It is not the system that is flawed .... it is HUMAN NATURE!

The system is actually one of the easiest formulas to guarantee success, but it has to be followed TO A TEE!! only giving a 50% effort wil not cut it, and yes I agree with you whole-heartedly, except I would say it will be closer to 98% that will fail ...

Of 100 people reading this going "Hey - I could do this!" maybe TWO of them will actually take the ball and run with it ...

A few years ago I was a captain/mentor in Beta Brigade ... a training system for adult webmasters. Of all the new webmasters that I schooled - giving them all identical resources, tools, and advice, only TWO of my charges actually put the consistant effort into what they were doing, to end up becoming very successful ... Both of them are millionares now .. One of them is "JEL" that posts here, and the other one is "REDNAX" who is more content keeping his business to himself, and may lurk here, but does not post.

Human nature is suc that people are lazy by default. I shake my head at how affiliate programs have played right into their hands - with free-hosted galleries, and RSS feeds and all kinds of sales aides that enable webmasters to continue to be lazy ...

Back in 1995-2000, we were lucky if we had a couple generic banners at most to promote a program ... if we wanted galleries, or sales aides, we created them ourselves ..

Being an adult webmaster required a bit of effort, but if you had the right stuff, you were paid well for it.

You cannot chastise these guys willing to share their success with you, when in fact the problem lies within people's tendency to want everything handed to them with minimal effort. THAT'S NOT COOL!!

STOP ACTING LIKE A SPOILED FUCKING BRAT! SUCCESS IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT, BUT RATHER A REWARD FOR CONTINUOUS HARD WORK!!

Good Day.



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Have to be honest and say this was me. I just can't be bothered these days. Not for the money but for something to do. Blogging sounded like fun so started two. Life story was fun to remember the old days. Sharing the knowledge on how I shoot made me realise this is a guide for perverts to find girls.

Maybe will complete the life story thing. Got a lot more on Word than is on the site.

Still you and Lamis I suspect are right, the motivation to keep going is going to deter a lot.

As much as GFY loves to piss on you Paul, it takes a lot to admit your faults, and like a recovering addict, admitting that you have a problem is the first step you must take to correct it.

I have NEVER minced my words (and sometimes that does get me in trouble ...). Keeping motivated enough to succeed at being self-employed is one of the toughest challenges you will face in your life ... IT'S NOT EASY - and most of us are ultimately going to fail. The people here that are financially pretty well off, represent a very small cross section of all the people who have ever posted on - or read - GFY. For every person here who appears to have money (and of them probably HALF are full of shit, but that is a topic for another day ...), there are at very minimum 100 others who are struggling to make next month's rent payment. I am not putting anybody down, but those are the cold hard facts.

I am not "struggling" per se ... but keeping motivated enough to make each day productive, is still very much something I deal with on an ongoing basis! Mind you, it is not as tough -- 15 years in -- being self employed as it was in the beginning, as I have developed specific routines to try to keep me 'on track' ... We also did not have YouTube, FaceBook, Twitter, Farmville, and the hundreds of other easy distractions that exist today ...

Ultimately, the level of success one will experience is a CONSCIOUS choice each and every one of us will make.

I used to easily pay 80% of my living expenses with my 20+ mainstream blogs less than 2 years ago .... but I started slacking off, and neglecting my blogs. Sure I had more ME TIME for myself and my family - but it came at a cost. My blogs still make me a few hundred dollars a month, but have probably lost 75% of their previous income, and it's an uphill struggle to try to build them back up to the level of income they previously provided for me.

One thing that I am going to suggest - and I believe this to be 100% true, is that being a webmaster is one job that you can control how successful you will be, and how financially sound you will be. If you plan your work, and then WORK YOUR PLAN - CONSISTANTLY, you will enjoy a level of financial freedom more than the next guy.

REMEMBER that sitting in front of a computer for 18 hours a day DOES NOT GUARANTEE anything more then hemorrhoids, without a plan of action.

FUCKING THE DOG does not pay very well, and never has ...

unless you are selling the pups!!

How much have you made off of blogs? A little bit over a year ago I was completely broke -$2000 in my bank account. Then I did nothing but what I typed, with a lot more little steps since I was just showing a broad idea of mass blogging and organization that you can read and modify to fit your own techniques and ideas, and now I have 90k in the bank even after having fun and spending about $1000/day on nothing, 3 houses (One is my dads since he was broke too..) and school loans are now paid off.

Just trying to help since adult blogging literally saved my life..

See if I post anything else on here

So you made in about one year on blogs enough to go from zero to spending 1k a day and buying three houses and paying off a student loan?

I usually agree with your posts and you have created some really helpful threads but I create blog posts with just a couple of sentences and it works great. I kept getting huge increases of traffic during Panda updates for blogs that sometimes only had 2-3 sentences for each post.

Not all on adult blogs, but a majority of them are (15,000ish) with about 150 affiliates from grinding when I smoke my hookah and the rest I make on mainstream blogs using the same techniques.

The rest I make building websites, SEO and designing banners/logos for local companies.

Hookah sales alone have made me a little over 20k this year..

How many blogs would you say you have? Like a rough estimate?

18-20,000ish. I don't keep up on a lot of them, though, but I do once they start making sales and a lot make sales that I forget about. I did just make enough minimum on Silvercash, Braincash, and Platinumbucks to pay rent this month and I don't remember any of their sites..

How many blogs you put on 1 domain? All paid domains or also free blog services?

Tell me something about the width of the images you put on the blogs, WHAT would be appropriate IMAGE size width if you were about to make lot of blogs? 400, 500, 600? Depends on the resolution you use but I would like to get some opinions of you people.

Most are free domains using Thumblogger, Sensual Writer, Sexus, Blogbugs (sucks, but worked when I started..), xlogz, etc. because I'm paranoid about 2257 but doesn't seem to make a difference with SEO, even though I don't have much to base that on besides many page 1 spots and a few thousands incoming longtails for each blog all PR0-4...

I also have a paid domain that I just started with WPMU hosted by one of my sponsors, once it's set up I plan on a few thousand more there.

Not being a dick here but I just don't see how that can happen in a year or so, 20k blogs pulling in what about a million? I just don't believe it, too many people in this industry just talk shit too much. I would love to see stats, examples to back this up.

If it is true then my hats off to you, your a fucking genius and I suck at life!


PS and your a stoner, damn I thought stoners smoked pot, that's what they do for work