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  • porno jew
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Nov 2006
    • 10166

    #251
    he bought playboy because it provides them an in to tv / cable markets.

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    • Wizzo
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      • Nov 2000
      • 15224

      #252
      Originally posted by porno jew
      he bought playboy because it provides them an in to tv / cable markets.
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      • Barefootsies
        Choice is an Illusion
        • Feb 2005
        • 42635

        #253
        Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
        Finally, the more companies he buys and goes public? - The more he can legitimize cash.
        As he said in the speech, 'they look at themselves as more of a TECHNOLOGY company than a porn company'. He also stated they were looking in the mainstream side for some opportunities, and sharing their software.

        Once they get some mainstream diversity, they would be able to pass for a TECHNOLOGY company more than a porn company. Which would allow them to go public or whatever their true end goal is. However, going public has a lot of draw backs, so I doubt they are in any rush.

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        • stocktrader23
          Let's do some business.
          • Jan 2003
          • 18781

          #254
          Yes Paul, he made up the 9 figure loan and instead shit out a printing press and made lots of $1 bills as to not draw attention to the counterfeits.


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          • porno jew
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Nov 2006
            • 10166

            #255
            Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
            If the markets were so profitable or a good outlet, do you think Playboy would of sold them? Also, I highly doubt you'll ever see Brazzers type content on the PBC. He simply bought a trusted Adult brand to legitimize his growing empire. The same reason why he gave a speech (damage control) due to his past reputation.
            he has stated multiple times why they partnered with playboy and in the keynote as well. makes sense to me.

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            • madm1k3
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2005
              • 472

              #256
              Yep another great Internext speech?

              This reminds me of the last internext seminar I went to where hosting companies promised everyone that "illegal tubes" would be shut down, or that they wouldn't host such sites. And everyone went out of the room smiling, saying these guys are all right.

              So this guy gets up there and gives a speech about how Manwin is a tech company and really doesn't like pirated content and on his sites there is none, and everyone walks away smiling again?
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              • stocktrader23
                Let's do some business.
                • Jan 2003
                • 18781

                #257
                Originally posted by madm1k3
                Yep another great Internext speech?

                This reminds me of the last internext seminar I went to where hosting companies promised everyone that "illegal tubes" would be shut down, or that they wouldn't host such sites. And everyone went out of the room smiling, saying these guys are all right.

                So this guy gets up there and gives a speech about how Manwin is a tech company and really doesn't like pirated content and on his sites there is none, and everyone walks away smiling again?
                What do you expect him to do? He didn't even start these tubes, he bought them. The industry has changed and you either deal with what's in front of you or bitch on GFY. He is dealing, you are bitching.


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                • Roald
                  SecretFriends.com
                  • May 2001
                  • 27910

                  #258
                  Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                  If the markets were so profitable or a good outlet, do you think Playboy would of sold them? Also, I highly doubt you'll ever see Brazzers type content on the PBC. He simply bought a trusted Adult brand to legitimize his growing empire. The same reason why he gave a speech (damage control) due to his past reputation.
                  besides having access to the channels the Playboy brand is much more accepted in mainstream making it easier to get deals done.


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                  • madm1k3
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 472

                    #259
                    Originally posted by stocktrader23
                    What do you expect him to do? He didn't even start these tubes, he bought them. The industry has changed and you either deal with what's in front of you or bitch on GFY. He is dealing, you are bitching.
                    I'm not bitching, I don't give a fuck. I just find it funny how 1 speech can change the opinion of a guy who was hated on this board. And if you beleive he just happened to buy some major tube sites... guess you enjoyed the speech
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                    • Mike Dutch
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                      • Aug 2003
                      • 5607

                      #260
                      some people need to adapt or stop posting here if you cant, since it means you out of business

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                      • DWB
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 31779

                        #261
                        Originally posted by porno jew
                        he bought playboy because it provides them an in to tv / cable markets.
                        Originally posted by Roald
                        besides having access to the channels the Playboy brand is much more accepted in mainstream making it easier to get deals done.
                        You guys do realize that MANY studios have TV & cable deals without Playboy? It's not difficult to do if you have the right material and what is acceptable for broadcast. Most companies will shoot for such outlets along side of their hardcore scenes then edit a broadcast version with the soft scenes. Many, many companies do this already.

                        Of course Playboy will get a few more doors open, but without them they would have been fine if they shot the right scenes, which I'm sure they did. So I don't believe they did it just to get their foot in the broadcast door. It makes more sense to say they just wanted to be a powerhouse in that market like they are in every other market. In that case, you would go after Playboy and Digital Playground. But not just so they can have that as an outlet.

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                        • DamianJ
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 15808

                          #262
                          Originally posted by Mike Dutch
                          some people need to adapt or stop posting here if you cant, since it means you out of business
                          That would only leave 3 people posting here.

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                          • DWB
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 31779

                            #263
                            Originally posted by Mike Dutch
                            some people need to adapt or stop posting here if you cant, since it means you out of business
                            You do know that you can do your own thing, not have to use unethical business practices, disagree with people, and still make a living, don't you?

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                            • Paul Markham
                              Too old to care
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 52942

                              #264
                              Originally posted by DamianJ
                              That would only leave 3 people posting here.

                              Who are the other 2?

                              I retired and that's adapting.

                              We will all find out soon enough or it's a non porn plan. No legit financier puts up 9 figures for things that will happen in 12 months. So we should all just chill and wait it out. This business is too extreme in it's attitude sometimes. One minute Fabian/Manwin is the most hated man/company in porn, then he/they are the most loved.

                              This is for sure, for many of you, Manwin are competition. Even affiliates.



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                              • DWB
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                                • Jul 2003
                                • 31779

                                #265
                                Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                                Look at the big picture. A guy with practically unlimited cash, who's snapping up companies with heavy CC processing, has advanced knowledge in massive CC processing, and the advanced knowledge sewing it all together. In short, "most" of the companies he's buying are irrelevant, accept for post established processing (cake) or public (icing) appeal. It's not that hard to figure out where he's going with this.

                                Although it's fun to speculate as none of us truly know, but if I were a betting man, and I am, I'd buy his stock in a heartbeat if he went public just so I can hedge against it, if possible. Why?

                                I've been around the block more times then even I care to remember, but also know, those who can't manage or control their simple energy intake, can never go the true distance. It's usually a sign of much greater problems and what I'd be betting against.
                                I agree with that. He said in the video he'd have to find a mainstream venture before he could think about going public, and that is probably exactly what he'll do. Who knows, maybe they'll buy Facebook.

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                                • Mr Cheeks
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 901

                                  #266
                                  Originally posted by dr.BoB
                                  good looking out. much appreciated..

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                                  • SZNY
                                    SZNY
                                    • May 2004
                                    • 2800

                                    #267
                                    So he gave a speech, made his point, shared his vision and explained in his words how he all did it. He is now the biggest player in this industry by controlling all the chains he needs.

                                    Now as a Tech company with an army of employees, consultants, lawyers and a bunch of shared toilets he now has to connect the dots and monetize all his acquisitions.

                                    The question is what is the rest of the competition (from what is left) going to do? Alliance with other adult companies to form a strong pact, join forces with MW (within LegendaryStats) or continuing in solo mode?
                                    Last edited by SZNY; 01-23-2012, 01:09 PM.
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                                    • stocktrader23
                                      Let's do some business.
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 18781

                                      #268
                                      Originally posted by SZNY

                                      The question is what is the rest of the competition (from what is left) going to do? Alliance with other adult companies to form a strong pact, join forces with MW (within LegendaryStats) or continuing in solo mode?
                                      Would be smart for a few companies to get together on a new delivery method / mega site ala NetFlix. Put some of the older content there, accept that you won't get $30 per month and cross sales out of every customer and enjoy a new revenue stream. Or wait until Manwin is licensing your content up front to get a million $14.95 per month customers of their own.


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                                      • Paul Markham
                                        Too old to care
                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 52942

                                        #269
                                        Originally posted by SZNY
                                        The question is what is the rest of the competition (from what is left) going to do? Alliance with other adult companies to form a strong pact, join forces with MW (within LegendaryStats) or continuing in solo mode?


                                        Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                        Would be smart for a few companies to get together on a new delivery method / mega site ala NetFlix. Put some of the older content there, accept that you won't get $30 per month and cross sales out of every customer and enjoy a new revenue stream. Or wait until Manwin is licensing your content up front to get a million $14.95 per month customers of their own.
                                        That's the hard part. The big ones will want to run it, so let them do a buy out or a deal. Still it will be like Princes sharing the Kingdom and lead to in fighting. If they can get past that, it could work.

                                        Putting together a site with approx 10,000 scenes, across the 3-5 top niches. With people feeding traffic into tours slanted towards the niche they are targeting. Pricing $14.95 approx, could work. Give affiliates 2 options, keep sending or go.

                                        Or offering a week in this site, week in that and so on for four weeks at $14.95 and let the customer choose what 4 he likes the best. He could even select once in his first choice.

                                        Now can BB, RK and a few others get their heads around it?



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                                        • porno jew
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Nov 2006
                                          • 10166

                                          #270
                                          pimproll already has sites like that. did it make them the netflix of porn? no.

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                                          • alias
                                            aliasx
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 19010

                                            #271
                                            If you actually read a Paul Markham post, you just got fucked.
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                                            • mikesouth
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 6334

                                              #272
                                              What i don't get is why everyone believes all the bullshit....haven't we heard this before? We don't own tubesites.....

                                              I gotta good idea that Manwin owns a LOT more of porn valley than people know...that new testing clinic and AVN for starters
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                                              • mikesouth
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                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 6334

                                                #273
                                                Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                would be smart for a few companies to get together on a new delivery method / mega site ala netflix. Put some of the older content there, accept that you won't get $30 per month and cross sales out of every customer and enjoy a new revenue stream. Or wait until manwin is licensing your content up front to get a million $14.95 per month customers of their own.
                                                ........bingo!........

                                                That or be relegated to micro niche content
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                                                • JFK
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                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 67369

                                                  #274
                                                  Originally posted by madm1k3
                                                  Yep another great Internext speech?

                                                  This reminds me of the last internext seminar I went to where hosting companies promised everyone that "illegal tubes" would be shut down, or that they wouldn't host such sites. And everyone went out of the room smiling, saying these guys are all right.

                                                  So this guy gets up there and gives a speech about how Manwin is a tech company and really doesn't like pirated content and on his sites there is none, and everyone walks away smiling again?
                                                  I think you hit the nail, right on the head ! It's all about the Smiles

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                                                  • Paul Markham
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                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 52942

                                                    #275
                                                    Originally posted by porno jew
                                                    pimproll already has sites like that. did it make them the netflix of porn? no.
                                                    Was that in reply to my post?

                                                    Can you point me to them please.



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                                                    • RTP
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                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                      • 1335

                                                      #276
                                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham

                                                      Putting together a site with approx 10,000 scenes, across the 3-5 top niches. With people feeding traffic into tours slanted towards the niche they are targeting. Pricing $14.95 approx, could work. Give affiliates 2 options, keep sending or go.

                                                      Or offering a week in this site, week in that and so on for four weeks at $14.95 and let the customer choose what 4 he likes the best. He could even select once in his first choice.

                                                      Now can BB, RK and a few others get their heads around it?
                                                      stop giving out the magic formula for free

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                                                      • Konda
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                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                        • 2280

                                                        #277
                                                        Lol at the 9 digit loan from a "wallstreet fund", everyone knows where they money came from...

                                                        Later in the speech he even mentions "our investor", but he quickly realized he revealed his lies and changes it to lender.
                                                        Last edited by Konda; 01-24-2012, 01:37 AM.

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                                                        • DWB
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 31779

                                                          #278
                                                          Originally posted by madm1k3
                                                          Yep another great Internext speech?

                                                          This reminds me of the last internext seminar I went to where hosting companies promised everyone that "illegal tubes" would be shut down, or that they wouldn't host such sites. And everyone went out of the room smiling, saying these guys are all right.

                                                          So this guy gets up there and gives a speech about how Manwin is a tech company and really doesn't like pirated content and on his sites there is none, and everyone walks away smiling again?
                                                          Good post. And spot on.

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                                                          • Operator
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                                                            • May 2009
                                                            • 2419

                                                            #279
                                                            Fuck tofu

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                                                            • Qbert
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                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                              • 813

                                                              #280
                                                              Originally posted by Operator
                                                              Fuck tofu
                                                              No, not a good idea. It's messy. And it won't respect you in the morning, just like Manwin.

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