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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
    • 76818
    #1

    How does Hollywood get away with this shit?

    I just watched the movie Alpha Dog, which was a pretty good movie. However in part of the movie, the 15 year old kid that ends up getting killed, well he strips butt ass naked and jumps in a pool with two 18 or 19 year old chicks. They show them getting into the action then imply that he fucked them both.

    So basically they are getting away with implying that a 15 year old kid had sex with two 18 or 19 year old girls. Yet they fucking get a get out of jail free pass because it's a Hollywood movie.

    Yet here in Pornland, if you take a legal 18 or even 22 year old girl and imply she's younger as in under 18, you get in a world of shit. So why does Hollywood get a double standard for doing the same thing that if we did it, would likely bring obscenity charges?
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    • _mC_
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        • nico-t
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          • Aug 2004
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          #3
          if it was a 15 year old girl..... well..... everybody loves 15 year olds.

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            • After Shock Media
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              • Mar 2001
              • 35299
              #4
              Cause they are hollywood.
              PS they can even use and show underage nudity and get away with it.

              Oh yeah even though they are competition to each other they get along and lobby very well. Sort of like how porn "families" would fight the law together before it was over ran by nerds and shortly there after money seekers with no ethics and sharing capabilities.

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                • DBS.US
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                  • Aug 2003
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                    • Pleasurepays
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 11913
                      #6
                      what is illegal about it? what is illegal about "implying" two kids have sex?

                      why do you think hardcore porn compares directly to a movie in theaters?

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                        • SPACE GLIDER
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                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1550
                          #7
                          I don't know about Alpha Dog. None of the characters were likeable or even cool. They all seemed like pathetic kids trying to play cool. I didn't feel any sympathy for any of them. Not even the one who ... you know.
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                            • Doug E
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                              • Sep 2005
                              • 511
                              #8
                              american beauty i dont think was really her topless. check out the angle on that shot of her on the couch. the way i remember it was it was too unnatural a position to be real.

                              for fucked up shit u wonder how they get away with watch larry clarkes movie, Glen Park.

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                                • After Shock Media
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                                  • Mar 2001
                                  • 35299
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Doug E
                                  american beauty i dont think was really her topless. check out the angle on that shot of her on the couch. the way i remember it was it was too unnatural a position to be real.

                                  for fucked up shit u wonder how they get away with watch larry clarkes movie, Glen Park.
                                  There are numerous movies with underage actresses showing skin. Trust me on this or I could go pull up at least 1 right now off the top of my head on IMBD or whatever its called where no body double was used.

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                                    • AaronM
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                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 46917
                                      #10
                                      New series on Showtime called Californication.

                                      Underage girl named "Mia" bangs David Duchovny in the first episode. They put that in there for a reason.

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                                        • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                          • Oct 2005
                                          • 9595
                                          #11
                                          Do they bust you if you're caught reading the Nabokov's novel "Lolita" and do they burn and censor the books in the states?
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                                            • pornask
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Aug 2006
                                              • 6518
                                              #12
                                              I think Brooke Shields was like 16 or something, when she played in Blue Lagoon and did the scene in the nude. She was definitely not an adult at the time, showed her boobs for millions to see and Hollywood got away with it...

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                                                • AGS-17
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                                                  • May 2005
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                                                  #13
                                                  15 years girls !! nice) very sexy)

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                                                    • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                                      • Oct 2005
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                                                      #14
                                                      It was discussed recently and thanks that it was confirmed as the basic right of the free artistic expression, how could you otherwise potray killing, drug abuse etc. those things are illegal too
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                                                        • V_RocKs
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                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                          • 32467
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                          I just watched the movie Alpha Dog, which was a pretty good movie. However in part of the movie, the 15 year old kid that ends up getting killed, well he strips butt ass naked and jumps in a pool with two 18 or 19 year old chicks. They show them getting into the action then imply that he fucked them both.

                                                          So basically they are getting away with implying that a 15 year old kid had sex with two 18 or 19 year old girls. Yet they fucking get a get out of jail free pass because it's a Hollywood movie.

                                                          Yet here in Pornland, if you take a legal 18 or even 22 year old girl and imply she's younger as in under 18, you get in a world of shit. So why does Hollywood get a double standard for doing the same thing that if we did it, would likely bring obscenity charges?
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                                                            • headless ghost
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                                                              • May 2005
                                                              • 893
                                                              #16
                                                              because they are big time movie producers.
                                                              and you are a bottom feeder.
                                                              more money
                                                              better lawyers
                                                              wealthy investors
                                                              etc, etc, etc
                                                              its just the way it is.
                                                              if you legitimize porn too much it won't sell.
                                                              needs the sleaze factor to create a certain taboo to make it marketable.

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                                                                • crockett
                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 76818
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                  New series on Showtime called Californication.

                                                                  Underage girl named "Mia" bangs David Duchovny in the first episode. They put that in there for a reason.

                                                                  Yea I know that one as well. I just like to know why they get away with it. Yet in the adult industry if you did the same, you would be very likely be charged with obscenity.

                                                                  Take for instance the current case of the writer that's being charged with obscenity because she wrote about sex with underage kids. Hollywood is filled with it, but they get the "free" pass on the same stuff that would put us in jail.
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                                                                    • CurrentlySober
                                                                      Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 39069
                                                                      #18
                                                                      yeah but it was also a true story.
                                                                      Besides, you didnt actually see anything.
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                                                                        • Zuzana Designs
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                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 20916
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I wondered the same thing when I watched it. I thought it was a pretty good movie. It always seems if it is a boy under age it's cool, but a girl and it's sooo bad...

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                                                                            • Fletch XXX
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                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                              • 60840
                                                                              #20




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                                                                                • CurrentlySober
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                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 39069
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX




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                                                                                  banned Blind Faith cover

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                                                                                    • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                      • Jan 2002
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                                                                                      #22
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                                                                                        • CurrentlySober
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                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 39069
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
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                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 76818
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner
                                                                                              yeah but it was also a true story.
                                                                                              Besides, you didnt actually see anything.
                                                                                              Well he did strip naked when he got in the pool, so yea he was naked in the movie, how old the actor was I have no clue, but in the movie he was playing the part of a 15 year old.

                                                                                              The fact you don't see anything isn't really the point. In adult if you did the same thing they did, you would likely be looking at jail time if you were implying one of your models was underage.
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                                                                                                • gooddomains
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 10127
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  hollywood is not part of the porn industry

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                                                                                                    • bronco67
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                                                                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                                                                      • 29026
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      It's all about context. Alpha Dog is telling a story based on actual events. Porn is basically gratuitous.

                                                                                                      This is so apples and oranges it ain't even funny.

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                                                                                                        • Angie77
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                                                                                                          • Aug 2007
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Now I know why I didn't bother to see that movie.
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                                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                              • 76818
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                              It's all about context. Alpha Dog is telling a story based on actual events. Porn is basically gratuitous.

                                                                                                              This is so apples and oranges it ain't even funny.

                                                                                                              I used the movie Alpha Dog as a simple example. The movie American Beauty wasn't based on a real story. The movie Poison Ivy wasn't based on a real story. Same as the example above with Californication..ect ect..

                                                                                                              Yet all those films had ratings with "strong sexual content" yet used minors having implied sex with adults. So are you saying it's ok for a porn film to have actors/actresses pretending to be underage and having even implied sex with adults, as long as it tells a story?

                                                                                                              See that is the point I'm getting at.. We have at this very moment a writer from the adult industry being charged with obscenity, just for written words. Yet at the very same time Hollywood gets away with the same BS and actually puts it on film.
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                                                                                                                • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                  • 9595
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by CarlosBS
                                                                                                                  Do they burn Nabokov's Lolita novels in US because they are implying underage sex?
                                                                                                                  All right, I will try to make my point simple and leave out references to classic literary works:

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                                                                                                                    • Steve Awesome
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                                                                                                                      • Jan 2007
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Hollywood has been impervious for years. Check it out -- 1938...

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                                                                                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                          • 39866
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by pornask
                                                                                                                          I think Brooke Shields was like 16 or something, when she played in Blue Lagoon and did the scene in the nude. She was definitely not an adult at the time, showed her boobs for millions to see and Hollywood got away with it...
                                                                                                                          have you seen Pretty Baby?

                                                                                                                          Brooke Shields is 13 in that and fully nude
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                                                                                                                            • Young
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                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                              • 10468
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Get off the "Poor us" routine.

                                                                                                                              It's the same reason that murder in movies is legal....and Snuff Films are not.

                                                                                                                              Hollywood implies the sex...it doesn't actually happen. If you're over the age of 10 years old you might understand the difference.

                                                                                                                              In American Beauty it was about the guy with the mid life crisis. Alpha Dog was a true story. Poison Ivy was about the young femme fetale and the consequences. Even the controversial Lolita. In each one of those cases it fit the context of the movie.

                                                                                                                              Poor us...poor porn. why does everyone pick on us. wahhhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

                                                                                                                              Last edited by Young; 09-16-2007, 12:10 PM.
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                                                                                                                                • NoWhErE
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                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 10605
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Maybe its because the Jews don't control porn like they do Hollywood...
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                                                                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 76818
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Young
                                                                                                                                      Get off the "Poor us" routine.

                                                                                                                                      It's the same reason that murder in movies is legal....and Snuff Films are not.

                                                                                                                                      Hollywood implies the sex...it doesn't actually happen. If you're over the age of 10 years old you might understand the difference.

                                                                                                                                      In American Beauty it was about the guy with the mid life crisis. Alpha Dog was a true story. Poison Ivy was about the young femme fetale and the consequences. Even the controversial Lolita. In each one of those cases it fit the context of the movie.

                                                                                                                                      Poor us...poor porn. why does everyone pick on us. wahhhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


                                                                                                                                      poor you that you don't know how to use the internet yet..
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                                                                                                                                        • bronco67
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 29026
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Young
                                                                                                                                          Get off the "Poor us" routine.

                                                                                                                                          It's the same reason that murder in movies is legal....and Snuff Films are not.

                                                                                                                                          Hollywood implies the sex...it doesn't actually happen. If you're over the age of 10 years old you might understand the difference.

                                                                                                                                          In American Beauty it was about the guy with the mid life crisis. Alpha Dog was a true story. Poison Ivy was about the young femme fetale and the consequences. Even the controversial Lolita. In each one of those cases it fit the context of the movie.

                                                                                                                                          Poor us...poor porn. why does everyone pick on us. wahhhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

                                                                                                                                          Exactly...its all about CONTEXT. The snuff film analogy is perfect. Porn and cinema are 2 different things.

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