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  • baddog
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    • Apr 2001
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    #1

    Does Iowa Matter?

    Apparently not.


  • CDSmith
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    • May 2001
    • 51460

    #2
    I was about to say "Election-wise, or about anything?"

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    • raymor
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      • Oct 2002
      • 3745

      #3
      Iowa will narrow the field a bit, but historically New Hampshire really matters. In every election since 1948, I think, the nominee took first or second in New Hampshire. So next week instead of nine candidates it should basically be two. Historically, second place in New Hampshire is fine, third place means you're not getting the nomination.

      Iowa is less clear cut, but it should help clear up who the leaders are. Historically I think a fourth place finisher in Iowa may have gotten the nomination once.
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      • seeandsee
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        • kane
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          • Aug 2001
          • 20684

          #5
          On the grand scale of winning the presidency it doesn't matter a whole lot, but it is pretty clear that it has become at least fairly important to winning your party's nomination. 8 of the last 9 nominees of their party won Iowa. That is pretty telling.

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          • Joshua G
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            • Jul 2008
            • 8198

            #6
            the entire election process is a disgusting joke. We need a praetorian guard, who will appoint strong leaders & kill the bad emperors.

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            • baddog
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              • Apr 2001
              • 107089

              #7
              Originally posted by kane
              8 of the last 9 nominees of their party won Iowa. That is pretty telling.
              The graph is for the last 10 caucuses. Where do you see 8 out of 9?

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              • Rochard
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                • Dec 2001
                • 75733

                #8
                It's already been decided. Everyone already sees how this is gonna play out. Mitt will be the Republican Nominee, and he'll loose to Obama.
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                • INever
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                  • Jan 2005
                  • 4028

                  #9
                  Ask the peeps riggging the election if it matters!
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                  • kane
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                    • Aug 2001
                    • 20684

                    #10
                    Originally posted by baddog
                    The graph is for the last 10 caucuses. Where do you see 8 out of 9?
                    I was counting both parties.

                    So on the democrats we have Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Obama

                    For Repubs there is G. Bush then Dole the GW Bush twice then Huckabee.

                    Of those nine who won the Iowa Caucus for their party only Huckabee failed to go on and win the nomination.

                    Of course Clinton and and one of the GW Bush nominations they were the incumbent and running unopposed so I guess to be more accurate it would be 6 out of 9.

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                    • baddog
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                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kane
                      I was counting both parties.
                      Whatever it takes to spin the results?

                      Of course Clinton and and one of the GW Bush nominations they were the incumbent and running unopposed so I guess to be more accurate it would be 6 out of 9.
                      You are proving that you can spin stats to have whatever desired result you want. Why would you limit it to the last 4 elections? You think they are getting more accurate or something?

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                      • baddog
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                        • Apr 2001
                        • 107089

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                        8 out of last 9 who won Iowa won their party presidential nominee
                        No they did not. 6/9 Republicans and 7/9 Democrats did.

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                        • kane
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                          • Aug 2001
                          • 20684

                          #13
                          Originally posted by baddog
                          Whatever it takes to spin the results?



                          You are proving that you can spin stats to have whatever desired result you want. Why would you limit it to the last 4 elections? You think they are getting more accurate or something?
                          If you don't spin it and you just take the raw results regardless of whether or not the person that won was an incumbent then in both parties 7 out of the last 10 candidates who won the Iowa Caucus went on to win their party's nomination. I would say that is a pretty strong indicator that it does matter.

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                          • baddog
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                            • Apr 2001
                            • 107089

                            #14
                            Until you eliminate the incumbents.

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                            • nation-x
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 5370

                              #15
                              The people who say it doesn't matter don't want Ron Paul or Rick Santorum to win... it's as simple as that... it does matter because it means delegates... a loss in Iowa can be overcome... but it still matters.

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                              • femdomdestiny
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                                • Apr 2007
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                                #16
                                Of course it does Matter, Captain Kirk is from Iowa!
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                                • HDADULT
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                                  • Aug 2005
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                                  #17


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                                  • DaddyHalbucks
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                                    • Feb 2004
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                                    #18
                                    Four years ago, the media branded Iowa as all-important; now, with Ron
                                    Paul in a position to possibly win the caucus, the GOP is poised to
                                    say ‘who cares about Iowa.’

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                                    • INever
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                                      • Jan 2005
                                      • 4028

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                      Four years ago, the media branded Iowa as all-important; now, with Ron
                                      Paul in a position to possibly win the caucus, the GOP is poised to
                                      say ?who cares about Iowa.?

                                      http://www.infowars.com/epic-media-f...a-caucus-2012/
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                                        • Nov 2003
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                                        #20
                                        It only matters if the establishment candidate wins there. If not, it is irrelevant.

                                        Stupid democracy. Why don't the rabble just eat up whatever the powers that be shoves down their throats.

                                        Having choice is a privilege... not a right!





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                                          #21
                                          Iran has to IMPORT GASOLINE. And the media has Americans scared about that tin pot dictatorship?

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                                          • uno
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                                            • Dec 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by nation-x
                                            The people who say it doesn't matter don't want Ron Paul or Rick Santorum to win... it's as simple as that... it does matter because it means delegates... a loss in Iowa can be overcome... but it still matters.
                                            The dems would love Rick Santorum or Ron Paul to win.
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                                            • Rochard
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                                              • Dec 2001
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                              Iran has to IMPORT GASOLINE. And the media has Americans scared about that tin pot dictatorship?
                                              The irony is comical. They export oil, but can't refine it. They really have no clue at all.
                                              Herschel Savage
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                                              • baddog
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                                                • Apr 2001
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by nation-x
                                                The people who say it doesn't matter don't want Ron Paul or Rick Santorum to win... it's as simple as that... it does matter because it means delegates... a loss in Iowa can be overcome... but it still matters.


                                                Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                Four years ago, the media branded Iowa as all-important; now, with Ron
                                                Paul in a position to possibly win the caucus, the GOP is poised to
                                                say ?who cares about Iowa.?
                                                Of course you would accept whatever the media says as gospel.

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