FACT: Black people do not belong in the hospitality industry

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  • ronaldo
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    • Jan 2002
    • 5475
    #51
    Originally posted by Brother Bilo
    Ohhhhhhh one whole quarter Indian. Listen you douchebags, there is a difference between staring someone down and making eye contact when you speak to them. Not looking at someone when you talk to them is not respectful, it's submissive. I'm not arguing that staring someone down is disrespectful, I agree with that. Maybe you should go take some courses on reading and comprehension.
    It's not respectful to YOU. And frankly, to myself as well. But that's not the case with with every culture. I'm sure this tribe is full of shit though and don't know anything either. Perhaps it's you that needs to look beyond your own beliefs about someone (just like I had to) and take some courses.

    http://www.earthskyweb.com/culture.htm

    *Situation: Eye contact during conversion. Indian: Very little eye contact; most conversation conducted while looking away from each other; direct eye contact may be considered disrespectful to other person. Non-Indian: Eye contact is continuous or nearly continuous during conversation; lack of eye contact considered lack of respect, not paying attention to the other

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      • eightmotives
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        • May 2007
        • 811
        #52
        Originally posted by GeXus
        Yeah totally, but don't limit yourself man, just stereotype and call it all blacks. It's easier then breaking it down by gender.
        And another racist tidbit for GeXus.
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          • Empfänger Emil
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            • Aug 2004
            • 907
            #53

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              • 2012
                So Fucking What
                • Jul 2006
                • 17189
                #54
                Originally posted by Empfänger Emil
                FIRE IN THE HOLE !!!!
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                  • escorpio
                    doesn't fuck around.
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 23485
                    #55
                    Originally posted by eightmotives
                    GeXus you sound like a racist imbreed. I am sure you enjoyed the pubes in your food and the piss in your water. Come one what racist imbreed wouldn't? ;)
                    @ "imbreed"
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                      • Brother Bilo
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                        • Jun 2007
                        • 4193
                        #56
                        Originally posted by ronaldo
                        direct eye contact may be considered disrespectful to other person.
                        May be considered disrespecful. Maybe you should get past your beliefs and courses and come out into the real world, not the native world of 1000 years ago. That's all I'm saying. Making eye contact with the royal court 1000 years ago would get you killed and shit, but I'm talking about now.

                        What do you think of someone, first impression, when they don't make eye contact with you when they are talking to you?

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                          • mikeyddddd
                            Viva la vulva!
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 16557
                            #57
                            Originally posted by GeXus
                            ... if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen...
                            He wasn't in the kitchen. He was serving the assholes in the dining area.
                            Last edited by mikeyddddd; 09-07-2007, 03:07 PM.

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                              • Hollywood Horwitz
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                                • Dec 2003
                                • 4357
                                #58
                                there's plenty of white,asian or any ethniticity that are bad waiters and who act just as rude. I worked in the rest biz for years as a kid and it's probably the hardest profession to act nice and friendly all day when your getting stiffed and yelled at by kitchen staff.
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                                  • minniesoporno
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                                    • Nov 2004
                                    • 1150
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                    FACT: GeXus is a racist/idiot.

                                    I know Eh !

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                                      • ronaldo
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                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 5475
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by Brother Bilo
                                        May be considered disrespecful. Maybe you should get past your beliefs and courses and come out into the real world, not the native world of 1000 years ago. That's all I'm saying. Making eye contact with the royal court 1000 years ago would get you killed and shit, but I'm talking about now.

                                        What do you think of someone, first impression, when they don't make eye contact with you when they are talking to you?
                                        I haven't been around for 1000 years, so my personal experiences are more recent...like the one below. When I talk to someone and they don't look me in the eyes? I USED to believe it was disrespectful. Now, depending who it is obviously, I'm not so quick to condemn.

                                        http://www.aanmc.org/alumni/profiles...wKaufmann3.php

                                        AANMC: How does your different cultural background come into play on the reservation?

                                        AK: There was a learning curve, in terms of greeting people and making eye contact, for instance. Elders (50 years and older) don?t make a lot of direct eye contact because it?s considered disrespectful.

                                        Based on that answer, PERHAPS, the natives are teaching the new generations that eye contact ISN'T disrespectful to the white man, but again, I'm sure it's not the same everywhere.

                                        Do YOU think ALL of the links I've posted are mistaken?

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                                          • Brother Bilo
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                                            • Jun 2007
                                            • 4193
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by ronaldo
                                            I haven't been around for 1000 years, so my personal experiences are more recent...like the one below. When I talk to someone and they don't look me in the eyes? I USED to believe it was disrespectful. Now, depending who it is obviously, I'm not so quick to condemn.

                                            http://www.aanmc.org/alumni/profiles...wKaufmann3.php

                                            AANMC: How does your different cultural background come into play on the reservation?

                                            AK: There was a learning curve, in terms of greeting people and making eye contact, for instance. Elders (50 years and older) don?t make a lot of direct eye contact because it?s considered disrespectful.

                                            Based on that answer, PERHAPS, the natives are teaching the new generations that eye contact ISN'T disrespectful to the white man, but again, I'm sure it's not the same everywhere.

                                            Do YOU think ALL of the links I've posted are mistaken?
                                            I'm not saying all your postings are mistaken, but I don't agree with you. I dont see it as disrespectful if someone doesn't make eye contact with me when they talk. I see it as weakness or shady, either way, I don't trust them. It's like a weak and/or limp handshake, can't trust that.

                                            What I'm saying is that Phoenix is completely surrounded by reservations and I have hung out, interacted and observed many different Natives and eye contact when speaking has never been an issue, for about 10 years now. I'm just going off of personal experience too. Maybe the indians in your neck of the woods are more of the submissive type.

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                                              • xNetworx
                                                So Fucking What
                                                • Jan 2004
                                                • 14445
                                                #62

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                                                  • Varius
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                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 6890
                                                    #63
                                                    You obviously have never eaten at many local restaurants in Costa Rica. If one day they can get my order right (hey it's hard to work at McDonalds and put what is on the bill, in the bag, isn't it?) I will be stunned.

                                                    Even the fancy restaurants are terrible, but usually they are lightyears ahead of any local tico places or bars
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                                                      • p1mpdogg
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                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 16714
                                                        #64
                                                        only whites should be waiters and waitresses...

                                                        i hate blacks and their niggah attitudes
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                                                          • ronaldo
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                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 5475
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Brother Bilo
                                                            I'm not saying all your postings are mistaken, but I don't agree with you. I dont see it as disrespectful if someone doesn't make eye contact with me when they talk. I see it as weakness or shady, either way, I don't trust them. It's like a weak and/or limp handshake, can't trust that.

                                                            What I'm saying is that Phoenix is completely surrounded by reservations and I have hung out, interacted and observed many different Natives and eye contact when speaking has never been an issue, for about 10 years now. I'm just going off of personal experience too. Maybe the indians in your neck of the woods are more of the submissive type.
                                                            I'll grant you that the natives anywhere and everywhere could be different.

                                                            What you perceive as weak or shady, yes, I used to as well. Not so much weak, but shady as in trying to hide something. Now I accept it as a cultural difference. In Natives most assuredly. Based on some of the stuff I've read today (thanks for making me look into it further), I'd be more likely to cut Asians and Hispanics the same slack.

                                                            I'll also agree to disagree with you and stand by what I've seen, experienced and learned on the subject. As I'm sure you will.

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                                                              • pr0
                                                                rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                • May 2001
                                                                • 23088
                                                                #66
                                                                sounds to me like gexus went way out of his way to be nice....& the asshole was just a dick

                                                                you shouldn't have turned it into a black thing though buddy....i mean, do you really think theres a bunch of bigot neo-cons out there pushing porn that will side with you?

                                                                next time be politically correct so no one busts your balls...or better yet, leave & make a new name

                                                                you've already been branded a racist now, instead of what you really are...a bigot

                                                                you're not claiming to be superior than another race, you just think your superior in the hospitality business

                                                                which = bigotry not racism

                                                                black people are better at basketball (in general) its a fact...why can't we be better at hotel management (in general)?

                                                                get a fucking dictionary people
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                                                                  • tiger
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                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                    • 6986
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Try going to a restaurant other then Taco Bell.

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                                                                      • Brother Bilo
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                                                                        • Jun 2007
                                                                        • 4193
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by pr0
                                                                        sounds to me like gexus went way out of his way to be nice....& the asshole was just a dick

                                                                        you shouldn't have turned it into a black thing though buddy....i mean, do you really think theres a bunch of bigot neo-cons out there pushing porn that will side with you?

                                                                        next time be politically correct so no one busts your balls...or better yet, leave & make a new name

                                                                        you've already been branded a racist now, instead of what you really are...a bigot

                                                                        you're not claiming to be superior than another race, you just think your superior in the hospitality business

                                                                        which = bigotry not racism

                                                                        black people are better at basketball (in general) its a fact...why can't we be better at hotel management (in general)?

                                                                        get a fucking dictionary people
                                                                        Fuck politically correct. That's why America is so fucked up. People can't speak their minds anymore without Al Sharpton or Oprah calling out racism.

                                                                        Perfect example, Don Imus. All he said was that those ball players looked like nappy headed hoes. Shit, I heard worse on the radio on my way into work today. I say, if he thinks black folks are the most hospitable people, then he can. I'm sure you would think the same if every black person that waited on you sucked too.

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                                                                          • minusonebit
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Feb 2006
                                                                            • 7391
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Most blacks (esp. the young, dumb ones) in both retail and hospitality are extremely rude. What I like is when there is a group of the little fuckers standing there talking while I am waiting to check out, pay, whatever and they ignore me, or continue talking on their cell phone. I have always found "Where is your manager at?" is a good way to interrupt.

                                                                            And their fucking "culture" doesn't mean a fucking thing. They need to treat customers properly or the business should fire them. Any business that does not fire them, when the issue is brought to their attention, does not deserve your business and you'd be a fool to continue patronizing the establishment.

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                                                                              • pr0
                                                                                rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                • 23088
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by Brother Bilo
                                                                                Fuck politically correct. That's why America is so fucked up. People can't speak their minds anymore without Al Sharpton or Oprah calling out racism.

                                                                                Perfect example, Don Imus. All he said was that those ball players looked like nappy headed hoes. Shit, I heard worse on the radio on my way into work today. I say, if he thinks black folks are the most hospitable people, then he can. I'm sure you would think the same if every black person that waited on you sucked too.
                                                                                dude, im the one in here trying to save his ass by informing people its not racism, its bigotry

                                                                                i'm a huge fucking bigot...& proud of it

                                                                                so take your fight to someone else
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                                                                                  • gadabout
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                                                                                    • Jun 2007
                                                                                    • 329
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Whether they're waiters, or cashiers or whatever. Almost every black cashier will not even acknowledge your existence when you get to the register, or even thank you at the end of the transaction.
                                                                                    It has nothing to do with race. It is the job.
                                                                                    Why would a cashier even want you to be there or come back? They don't make a penny off of you being there. Most cashiers make about $0.05-$0.10 per person they check out. What are you willing to do for that?
                                                                                    Waiters get tipped crap from most people. There should be an automatic 10-15% put on every bill. Then you give them more when they are good. They get paid about $3.50 a hour without tips. When people complain all day and give them a dollar or two what do you expect them to act like?

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                                                                                      • eightmotives
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                                                                                        • May 2007
                                                                                        • 811
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        All racist fucks eat a dick. Your choice what color it is.
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                                                                                          • Jai
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                                                                                            • May 2005
                                                                                            • 6915
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by wdsguy
                                                                                            They also don't tip.
                                                                                            now thats a fact

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                                                                                              • Jai
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                                                                                                • May 2005
                                                                                                • 6915
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by gadabout
                                                                                                It has nothing to do with race. It is the job.
                                                                                                Why would a cashier even want you to be there or come back? They don't make a penny off of you being there. Most cashiers make about $0.05-$0.10 per person they check out. What are you willing to do for that?
                                                                                                Waiters get tipped crap from most people. There should be an automatic 10-15% put on every bill. Then you give them more when they are good. They get paid about $3.50 a hour without tips. When people complain all day and give them a dollar or two what do you expect them to act like?
                                                                                                not true, when old white cashiers serve me , they are pretty polite

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                                                                                                  • Elli
                                                                                                    Reach for those stars!
                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                    • 17991
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by gadabout
                                                                                                    It has nothing to do with race. It is the job.
                                                                                                    Why would a cashier even want you to be there or come back? They don't make a penny off of you being there. Most cashiers make about $0.05-$0.10 per person they check out. What are you willing to do for that?
                                                                                                    Waiters get tipped crap from most people. There should be an automatic 10-15% put on every bill. Then you give them more when they are good. They get paid about $3.50 a hour without tips. When people complain all day and give them a dollar or two what do you expect them to act like?
                                                                                                    Silly me, I thought helping the customer as long as he is in the restaurant was all part of the job description. That's what "waiting on" refers to.
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                                                                                                      • gadabout
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                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        not true, when old white cashiers serve me , they are pretty polite
                                                                                                        not true in the way they act but what they are thinking is still the same usually

                                                                                                        Silly me, I thought helping the customer as long as he is in the restaurant was all part of the job description. That's what "waiting on" refers to.
                                                                                                        Do you think most of these people want those jobs? Most of the jobs the people that work there can get are like this. They work there because they have to not because they want to.

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                                                                                                          • robfantasy
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                                                                                                            • Jun 2002
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                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            if you had any balls you would confront him and ask how why he is giving you shitty service, but you have none so you hold in your anger until you get home and start a thread about it on GFY

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                                                                                                              • aico
                                                                                                                Moo Moo Cow
                                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                • 14748
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Maybe you should try eating where the highest priced meal isn't $7.99

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                                                                                                                  • EddiePulp
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                                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                    • 1332
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    how does the fact he was a dumb, lazy, impolite fuck have anything to do with race?
                                                                                                                    I dont need a sig.

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                                                                                                                      • Elli
                                                                                                                        Reach for those stars!
                                                                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                        • 17991
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by gadabout
                                                                                                                        not true in the way they act but what they are thinking is still the same usually

                                                                                                                        Do you think most of these people want those jobs? Most of the jobs the people that work there can get are like this. They work there because they have to not because they want to.
                                                                                                                        He obviously wanted the job because he's there. If he's going to do a job, he might as well put some effort into it. Otherwise he should be fired, pronto.

                                                                                                                        In other words, it is not my problem if you don't like your job. Do your job and don't take whatever personal problems out on me while you're doing it.
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                                                                                                                          • commonsense
                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                            • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                            • 1790
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            LOL at everyone getting trolled.


                                                                                                                            Based on averages, there HAS to be a certain race that gives the worst service overall. That's a fact. Regardless of which color it is, there has to be one that is lesser than the rest. This is true in EVERYTHING.

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                                                                                                                              • pornask
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                                                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                • 6518
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Haven't read through the whole thread, but in general you can get an asshole waiter regardless of race. Here's a useful tip n how to close the deal with a shitty waiter...

                                                                                                                                give them a credit card to pay for your mean, they will run it through their little machine and will bring you the print out with the subtotal and a little line in which you write the tip amount. Just go ahead and write -10% as the tipe, then subtract the tip from their subtotal and write down your discounted total on the line where what you are supposed to pay for is...

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                                                                                                                                  • broke
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                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
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                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    I couldn't have been more happy with the black woman that helped me out at Victoria's Secret today.

                                                                                                                                    Attentive, polite, & personable... the service industry trifecta.
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                                                                                                                                      • gadabout
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                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Elli
                                                                                                                                        He obviously wanted the job because he's there. If he's going to do a job, he might as well put some effort into it. Otherwise he should be fired, pronto.

                                                                                                                                        In other words, it is not my problem if you don't like your job. Do your job and don't take whatever personal problems out on me while you're doing it.
                                                                                                                                        You obviously have not looked at the jobs with hardly no qualifications lately. They are there because they have to pay bills. Most people that work those kind of jobs work just hard enough not to get fired. I can't blame them because really what is going to happen if they do better? maybe a quarter raise or ten bucks more in the tip

                                                                                                                                        You are looking at it from the customers point of view not the person doing the job. If you look at it that way ofcourse you are right. If you look from their view they are right. It is really just all perception.

                                                                                                                                        Now if you go into a fancy restaurant where you are paying $50-$100 a plate I would say you are totally right. They make enough money that there is no reason for that. I have never got bad service in a place like that because they know at the end of the night they will be doing well and not have got stiffed.

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                                                                                                                                          • baddog
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                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by gadabout
                                                                                                                                            You obviously have not looked at the jobs with hardly no qualifications lately. They are there because they have to pay bills. Most people that work those kind of jobs work just hard enough not to get fired. I can't blame them because really what is going to happen if they do better? maybe a quarter raise or ten bucks more in the tip

                                                                                                                                            You are looking at it from the customers point of view not the person doing the job. If you look at it that way ofcourse you are right. If you look from their view they are right. It is really just all perception.
                                                                                                                                            Why do I get the impression this is based on experience?

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                                                                                                                                              • gadabout
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                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                used to work as a cashier a long time ago so I know how they feel and my sister was a waitress

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                                                                                                                                                  • TeenSluts
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                                                                                                                                                    ahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

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                                                                                                                                                      • Elli
                                                                                                                                                        Reach for those stars!
                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2003
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                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by gadabout
                                                                                                                                                        You obviously have not looked at the jobs with hardly no qualifications lately. They are there because they have to pay bills. Most people that work those kind of jobs work just hard enough not to get fired. I can't blame them because really what is going to happen if they do better? maybe a quarter raise or ten bucks more in the tip

                                                                                                                                                        You are looking at it from the customers point of view not the person doing the job. If you look at it that way ofcourse you are right. If you look from their view they are right. It is really just all perception.

                                                                                                                                                        Now if you go into a fancy restaurant where you are paying $50-$100 a plate I would say you are totally right. They make enough money that there is no reason for that. I have never got bad service in a place like that because they know at the end of the night they will be doing well and not have got stiffed.
                                                                                                                                                        I guess the restaurant owner should start paying their staff reasonable wages, then. Here even the McDonald's staff do their best (even if they are underskilled at times). And yes, the useless people do get fired. But the minimum wage in BC is $8 an hour and people are campaigning to raise it to $10, so at that price a shopkeeper really can't afford to keep useless staff on hand.
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                                                                                                                                                          • GreyWolf
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                                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                                                            • 2036
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                            I personally get good service from everyone. My wife says I act like the mayor, I ask them how they are, say please and thank you.Treat them like people, servers tend to get treated as non people and that adds to the atitude.
                                                                                                                                                            Hehe.. When Mr Mayor shows some respect, 99.9% he's going to get the same in return - rarely fails.

                                                                                                                                                            Totally agree Tony - it costs so little to reach out and show consideration - it's prob more about "relating" and having a personality. Almost all the restaurants we go to - we know all servers/owners/operators by first name and noticed they all come up and shake hands and chat, whether or not that server is even handling the order.

                                                                                                                                                            Suppose it's just a matter of just being "normal" - and shows some class instead of acting like an ignorant redneck.



                                                                                                                                                            GeXus: One of the restaurants where the owners/servers were mainly black has some of the best food ever and included on the Egon Ronay guide. Karl, the chef (and black) will prepare *anything* you want - whether it's on the menu or not. Suggest something to him and he'll turn up at the table and describe how he can enhance your suggestion - the guy takes pride in what he does.

                                                                                                                                                            Your original post has nothing to do with race, but perhaps to you it does.

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                                                                                                                                                              • gadabout
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                                                                                                                                                                Those jobs are still paying about $6 here. I can see what you are saying when they are starting to get paid a little more. If wages where higher here they might care a little more. Right now I know people working two jobs at $6 just to be able to pay for monthly bills.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • GreyWolf
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by gadabout
                                                                                                                                                                    Those jobs are still paying about $6 here. I can see what you are saying when they are starting to get paid a little more. If wages where higher here they might care a little more. Right now I know people working two jobs at $6 just to be able to pay for monthly bills.
                                                                                                                                                                    Know what you are saying man - the salary levels in many corp chain restaurants and fast food joints are disgusting and an abuse of staff. The minimum wage in the US, even after recent revision, is a joke in comparison to all other western countries.

                                                                                                                                                                    Can also give an example of even worse tho this is not in the US and the cost of living is less. Know of international hotel chains who pay their staff $80-$120/month to work six days/week, 12 hour shifts. This is below the legal minimum wage level and, as you suggested earlier, the only reason there is not a staff revolt is because they need their jobs - they'd be fired, and have been, if they complained about wages.

                                                                                                                                                                    Despite the wage conditions, the staff are always very polite and cheerful. Was chatting to one young girl and asking how she would get home at night after work - the hotel does not even take the effort to provide transport for staff after midnight and many have to walk many miles to get home - cabs are not a thing they'd consider paying for on that salary. The irony is these same hotel chains have a few coaches which they own and sitting empty outside in the car park at midnight onwards.
                                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by GreyWolf; 09-07-2007, 11:07 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                        Black peoples make best fried chicken.
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                                                                                                                                                                          • gadabout
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by GreyWolf
                                                                                                                                                                            Know what you are saying man - the salary levels in many corp chain restaurants and fast food joints are disgusting and an abuse of staff. The minimum wage in the US, even after recent revision, is a joke in comparison to all other western countries.

                                                                                                                                                                            Can also give an example of even worse tho this is not in the US and the cost of living is less. Know of international hotel chains who pay their staff $80-$120/month to work six days/week, 12 hour shifts. This is below the legal minimum wage level and, as you suggested earlier, the only reason there is not a staff revolt is because they need their jobs - they'd be fired, and have been, if they complained about wages.

                                                                                                                                                                            Despite the wage conditions, the staff are always very polite and cheerful. Was chatting to one young girl and asking how she would get home at night after work - the hotel does not even take the effort to provide transport for staff after midnight and many have to walk many miles to get home - cabs are not a thing they'd consider paying for on that salary. The irony is these same hotel chains have a few coaches which they own and sitting empty outside in the car park at midnight onwards.
                                                                                                                                                                            I know it can always be worse. I just understand how they must feel here since I was there once and still know people like that here.

                                                                                                                                                                            I am looking at moving out of the US and starting some business in Brazil. I know some people there already and they say it is a lot like you said in some places.

                                                                                                                                                                            It really bothers me when I see things like that happen when I know there is something that could be done.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • cyko
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by MOCKBA
                                                                                                                                                                                Black peoples make best fried chicken.
                                                                                                                                                                                Fry that chicken!

                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGrqW3nx5HM


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