The porn industry is under attack - what are we going to do about it?

For those of you who are too lazy to go look.
Do you notice a trend here. Picture speaks louder then words.

For those of you who are too lazy to go look.


Do you notice a trend here. Picture speaks louder then words.

You sir, are clueless. Comparing TGP's vs regular torrent sites is just stupid. Go plot your nice graph again, but do it with some porn-only torrent sites and you'll see that the surfers visiting porn torrent sites are really just a handfull compared to oh say Torrentspy and Piratebay.

95% of the people that visit those torrent sites are just looking for an illegal copy of windows, their favourite tv-show or that one mp3 album they heard the other day.

I agree that handing out complete member area's is just stupid and should be stopped, but why complain about those 2-5 minute clips that are posted on porntubes? It's just business, a fast evolving business that is. Stop complaining and get with the program or feel the consequences in a few years from now. I have the distinct idea that very few people here are innovators, and that's what we should be right at this moment. Stop bitching and go find a way to make money off of those porntubes, I know I've found one.

The torrent sites are scumbags. That's bottom line. I am going to be attending the piracy roundtable that they are hopefully going to be having in Amsterdam since I can't make it to the L.A. one.

As far as why surfers still come to the REAL TGP's. That's an easy one. It's a matter of trust. If you notice also...Shavedgoat and Grampland offer more than just galleries. We have things for the surfers to do. We were the first to offer humor on a porn site way back in 1996 and I've continued that tradition to this day on the ShavedGoat site.

But back to why they still come....there are several factors. Trust is the main one. They KNOW that I won't fuck them, or let them get fucked, or have anything that can infect their computer or link to anything like that. I know it may sound far fetched to many of you...but people DO develop a trust and a relationship with a website. I'm an entertainer, and that's what I do. I try to keep my audience entertained.

The difference between something that is "okay" and something that is "good" is very small. But it's those little details that make all the difference in the world to the surfers. That's why I keep my shit looking like I designed it with Crayola crayons! LOL! Surfers feel more comfy that way. My sites feel like that old neighborhood bar that you've went to all your life. The place is dark, and old, and smells funny. But you'll go there and pay 3 dollars for a beer. Even though you could go to the store and pay 3 dollars for a 6 pack.

It's just a matter of building up an audience and having them get to know you. That's why all the fake TGP's can't make money. And that's why it's so damn hard to start a new TGP and make anything with it.

And as far as the Alexa stuff goes....all I can say is the same thing I used to say to all the guys who went crazy with all the big circle jerk TGP's a few years ago. They were doing crazy numbers for the time..over a million uniques...but it was all circle jerk and blind linked traffic. Useless.

And as I would see them at the shows and listen to them talk, I reminded them over and over that the ONLY statistic that really mattered was the number of dollars going into the bank account.

Now most of those sites are long gone. But the real ones are still here. And will be until the day that the govt. finally shuts down all free porn sites. So yeah, I'm doing better than ever. The torrents are NOT gonna last. WE are going to put a stop to piracy. I've already done a few things that have cost me personally. But I'm putting my money where my mouth is and I'm walking the walk as well as talking the talk.

What costs me a little now, will be worth it in the future. But the present is still better than it was. If I ever find myself going backwards in the amount of money I'm making....well fuck that...it just isn't gonna ever happen. Just not an option.

Hey bro, isn't that the same Torrent Spy that just got banned in the U.S. by court order? I'd say that those Alexa numbers are gonna change REAL fast for them in the next few days. Score one for the good guys.

You sir, are clueless. Comparing TGP's vs regular torrent sites is just stupid. Go plot your nice graph again, but do it with some porn-only torrent sites and you'll see that the surfers visiting porn torrent sites are really just a handfull compared to oh say Torrentspy and Piratebay.

95% of the people that visit those torrent sites are just looking for an illegal copy of windows, their favourite tv-show or that one mp3 album they heard the other day.

I agree that handing out complete member area's is just stupid and should be stopped, but why complain about those 2-5 minute clips that are posted on porntubes? It's just business, a fast evolving business that is. Stop complaining and get with the program or feel the consequences in a few years from now. I have the distinct idea that very few people here are innovators, and that's what we should be right at this moment. Stop bitching and go find a way to make money off of those porntubes, I know I've found one.

"just adapt" is the mantra from the people who are likely already fucking the industry over by running torrent and tube sites with long videos and tons of unrelated sponsorship banners and links.

"just adapt" roughly translates to "don't fuck up my scam".

zwitch to kiddy induztry...

bump....

All this talk of TGP's "sucking" and "stuck in the 90's" is blatantly untrue. Me, The Hun, Pierre, Shemp, Greenguy, and a couple of others are running stronger than ever before. You guys are making the mistake of confusing us with the THOUSANDS of clowns who bought some software and made a "TGP" Those are NOT TGP's. And they do suck and always have and always will.

Fuck trading with sites when you can make this much money!

-Thehun has almost 4 milions around one year ago, now according sextracker it is 3,2 milions (today)
-Worldsex has almost 2 milions around one year ago, now according sextracker is 1,5 milions (today)

this is nothing like tgps in 2000.... they were not necessarily giving away unlicensed content - it was often bought from the content producer (like u). there are well run tgps that do not lnk to ANY unlicensed content.

Actually this is a great deal like TGP was when it started.
Threads like this were written, a lot of people said cut it off, it is hurting the industry, it will ruin sales, others said adapt. The industry adapted, sales got worse.

This is NOT history repeating itself. You are comparing apples and oranges.TGP's market, and have always marketed toward selling MEMBERSHIPS TO PAYSITES. These torrents are doing NOTHING like that at all. They are stealing our content and getting paid by dating sites.

TOTALLY different. This is nothing but pure thievery. Please don't lump TGP's with this bullshit.

those who adapt to change the fastest are the big winners

Compete with them. Make sites that appeal to the surfers more than they do.

Content costs are so low as to be a very small factor in starting a site, so please stop whining about it. It's a red herring and you know it. In fact if I gave you all my content and you used the same method we all do to drive traffic, you would still need to charge $30. The selling price is governed by the affiliate system and not the cost of the product.

The one thing that allows them to give out content for free is they are not paying 60% to 75% of their turn over on "traffic". Do the sums and work it out. Then take out 10% for processing.

Sell the surfer what he needs at a price he will pay and if you answer he will not pay, pack your bags and leave by the back door quietly.

arent these idiots bound by same 2257 laws?

do you guys get pissed about other stolen content? or just afraif of torrents because its YOUR CONTENT being stolen?

Stolen audio is being used in gfy banners at this very moent, why no one crying about it?

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