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12-12-2011, 06:55 PM

Outstanding job by OWS today - for shutting down the Oakland port. Let's hit the 1% where it hurts!

Oakland Longshoreman DeAndre Whitten was OK with it. "I hope they keep it up," said Whitten, who lost about $500. "I have no problem with it. But my wife wasn't happy about it."

Others, such as the truck drivers who had to wait in long lines as protesters blocked gates, were angry, saying the demonstrators were harming the very people they were trying to help.

"This is joke. What are they protesting?" said Christian Vega, who sat in his truck carrying a load of recycled paper. He said the delay was costing him $600. "It only hurts me and the other drivers.

"We have jobs and families to support and feed," he said. "Most of them don't."

Shut down the port, and cause hundreds of self employed people connected to the ports to loose their pay for the day. Fucking brilliant.

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12-12-2011, 06:58 PM

I think ows will go down in history as the most retarded movement ever.

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12-12-2011, 08:05 PM

OWS is orchestrated by the .0001%. The .0001% does not give a fuck about the 1% let alone the 99%. The core of the OWS protesters are smelly anarchist/marxist-indoctrinated turds who have no idea they are just being used as tools of the .0001%.
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12-12-2011, 08:09 PM

I fully expect some major ass kicking by longshoremen if it continues. OWS will be pleading for the cops to arrest them.
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12-13-2011, 05:26 AM

Just seems damn silly.... Let's prevent the 99% from earning a day's pay two weeks before Christmas....

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12-13-2011, 05:42 AM

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12-13-2011, 05:50 AM

Too bad they didn't do Los Angeles when they had that major crisis of too many ships at the same time... would have been fun to watch that play out.
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12-13-2011, 07:36 AM

I could have understood if they blocked the warehouse of Lest say Saks5th ave. or maybe the RollsRoyce plant or dealership. But the docks that bring things to all of us??

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12-13-2011, 07:49 AM

Yeah, I don't really get how this is supposed to hurt the 1% more then it hurts the 99%...

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12-13-2011, 08:06 AM

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Yeah, I don't really get how this is supposed to hurt the 1% more then it hurts the 99%...

That's what I don't get. This group claims to represent the 99%, but that's the only group they are hurting - that and the local police departments. When they square off against the police, they are going head to head to with their own - the 99%. That poor cop who pepper sprayed the group of protesters will most likely be out of a job - Mission accomplished.

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12-13-2011, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by lumenus

OWS is orchestrated by the .0001%. The .0001% does not give a fuck about the 1% let alone the 99%. The core of the OWS protesters are smelly anarchist/marxist-indoctrinated turds who have no idea they are just being used as tools of the .0001%.

it's the same people doing the chemtrails is what I'vve been told
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12-13-2011, 01:01 PM

Once a middle-class profession, the port trucking (or drayage) industry has now been dubbed "sweatshops on wheels."

http://www.alternet.org/economy/1533...ts_in_protest/

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12-13-2011, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

http://www.alternet.org/economy/1533...ts_in_protest/

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Great article!

I wonder how many OWS haters will actually read it, since it flies in the face of their simplistic ignorant worldview.

Many people who don't want to understand OWS have no solutions, only criticism for people that are at least trying to do something to force change upon on an unfair and unjust system.

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12-13-2011, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by bm bradley

it's the same people doing the chemtrails is what I'vve been told

Sounds like you have been talking to too many whack jobs.

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12-13-2011, 02:40 PM

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http://www.alternet.org/economy/1533...ts_in_protest/

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Dubbed by whom? Fucking idiots. They don't realize that longshoremen get up every day in hopes of being able to work for the day. I am sure cutting off their income right before Christmas is really going to hurt Wall Street and the likes of Goldman Sachs.
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12-13-2011, 02:48 PM

Another great Yahoo story in a long line of BS smears on OWS.

But they failed to leave out the facts behind the shut down and who really supported it-
An open letter from the very truckers-
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews...upy_the_ports/

We are the front-line workers who haul container rigs full of imported and exported goods to and from the docks and warehouses every day.

We have been elected by committees of our co-workers at the Ports of Los Angeles, Long Beach, Oakland, Seattle and Tacoma to tell our collective story. We have accepted the honor to speak up for our brothers and sisters about our working conditions despite the risk of retaliation we face. One of us is a mother, the rest of us fathers. Between the four of us we have six children and one more baby on the way. We have a combined 31 years of experience driving cargo from our shores for America?s stores.

We are inspired that a non-violent democratic movement that insists on basic economic fairness is capturing the hearts and minds of so many working people. Thank you ?99 Percenters? for hearing our call for justice. We are humbled and overwhelmed by recent attention. Normally we are invisible.

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12-13-2011, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

http://www.alternet.org/economy/1533...ts_in_protest/

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According to the article on Yahoo News, the truck drivers were loosing between $500 and $600 a day. That ain't no fucking sweat shop.

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12-13-2011, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by baddog

Dubbed by whom? Fucking idiots. They don't realize that longshoremen get up every day in hopes of being able to work for the day. I am sure cutting off their income right before Christmas is really going to hurt Wall Street and the likes of Goldman Sachs.

Longshoreman call lots of strike days too ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/09/bu...les-ports.html

Actually, they are pretty good at it.
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12-13-2011, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Jesus H Christ

Not an OWS hater, but instead of using business, jobs, public disruption, from people who might not support their movement or using the populace as a proxy to further their cause for attention/action is just idiotic. This causes more harm then good as their primary role should be taking their message to a location that could bring direct attention to the people who CAN change things. In short, OCH or Occupy Capital Hill because disruption of jobs and business there, will definitely get attention.

This is my point exactly. They are fucking up parks by occupying them, crapping in garage cans, and attracting the bottom .001% of the 99% - the homeless, the rapists, the criminals, causing local governments money in over time and legal issues that will last for years, preventing the 99% from making money... When the truth is they need to be bring this to Washington DC.

ALL PROTESTS LEAD TO WASHINGTON DC. It's the only place that can change anything.

They are trying to compare this to the civil rights movement and the Vietnam protests, but they are missing the point entirely. These two movements didn't deny people their rights or go to Vietnam to protest. OWS is only hurting the 99% while doing zero to accomplish any of their goals.

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12-13-2011, 03:01 PM

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Longshoreman call lots of strike days too ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/09/bu...les-ports.html

Actually, they are pretty good at it.

Are you telling me you don't see a difference between longshoremen having a labor strike for a local or national bargaining issue and some punks coming in and telling them they can't work?
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12-13-2011, 03:01 PM

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Longshoreman call lots of strike days too ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/09/bu...les-ports.html

Precisely. The fact is the longshoremen are largely behind these OWS shutdowns as it draws attention to their situation.

And equally as important they are proving to be a major thorn in the side of Goldman Sachs etc.

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12-13-2011, 03:02 PM

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Longshoreman call lots of strike days too ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/09/bu...les-ports.html

Actually, they are pretty good at it.

And that's fine, that's great, and that's wonderful. That's what America is all about. If you want to protest your work, do it. But that's their choice.

Two weeks before Christmas OWS has decided to deny workers their right to work. They are sending hundreds of people home from work, and telling hundreds others not to show up. "Sorry, no paycheck for you today, because OWS has decided to shut us down". OWS doesn't represent these people.

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12-13-2011, 03:04 PM

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Many people who don't want to understand OWS have no solutions, only criticism for people that are at least trying to do something to force change upon on an unfair and unjust system.

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Okay...

What solutions has the loosely organized OWS provided?

What have they done aside from criticism, chanting, taking over parks and ports?

What change are they trying to force upon others? And how can "force" be construed as a good thing, when the movement itself should be protesting the "force" of the 1%?

Send OWS to City Hall, houses of government officials, to state capitals, and to the national capital and I will support them. Until then...

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12-13-2011, 03:10 PM

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Okay...

What solutions has the loosely organized OWS provided?

What have they done aside from criticism, chanting, taking over parks and ports?

What change are they trying to force upon others? And how can "force" be construed as a good thing, when the movement itself should be protesting the "force" of the 1%?

Send OWS to City Hall, houses of government officials, to state capitals, and to the national capital and I will support them. Until then...

i'm going to slide right under you and park myself before the posting of random youtube videos and site links like infowars.com get posted accompanied by the usual vague statements like "here, you need to educated your self on what OWS is about" - which pre-qualify you as ignorant on the topic while avoiding the actual points and which pretend as if parks aren't full of filthy weirdos beating drums and making no real sense... and doing so without a clear objective that might actually be achieved of affect change in some manner.

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12-13-2011, 03:10 PM

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According to the article on Yahoo News, the truck drivers were loosing between $500 and $600 a day. That ain't no fucking sweat shop.

Pay for the fuel, maintenance and repair, depreciation (rebuilds) insurance, truck payments then for their own and family's health care insurance, retirement savings, etc. if they have money left over after the "mobile home" or rent payment and what's left?

These guys are not union employees with benefits -- they are independent contractors so are lots of other workers so they are not eligible for employer paid benefits.

Read what you want to read ... hear what you want to hear ... that doesn't change the reality of the situation.
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12-13-2011, 04:14 PM

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I fully expect some major ass kicking by longshoremen if it continues. OWS will be pleading for the cops to arrest them.

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12-13-2011, 04:36 PM

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Pay for the fuel, maintenance and repair, depreciation (rebuilds) insurance, truck payments then for their own and family's health care insurance, retirement savings, etc. if they have money left over after the "mobile home" or rent payment and what's left?

These guys are not union employees with benefits -- they are independent contractors so are lots of other workers so they are not eligible for employer paid benefits.

Read what you want to read ... hear what you want to hear ... that doesn't change the reality of the situation.

The reality of the situation is all OWS is doing is hurting people. It's called being self employed. And no matter what his bills are, the OWS just cost him a day's worth of work.

OWS has accomplished NOTHING. It doesn't even know what it wants. Instead, it just causes the average working Joe his wages for the day. Brilliant.

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12-13-2011, 09:23 PM

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As much as I like to take jabs at you, an Ex-marine, and your knowledge of military history, you still can't see the strategy, surprising. All explain it in terms I know you'll understand.

They OWS people are using the same strategy as the Vietcong. Force the populace to fight the battles with them, so they can reserve their own supplies to wear down the opposition. If you haven't figured this out yet, OWS isn't a true protest/movement, but a battle of attrition.

The Bankers/Fed Reserve/Government who've created these problems or those who can fix them, figured they'd get tired and go away and that's not going to happen. By simply being there, no-matter how valid the message or not, there's a constant reminder of a problem, and why negative/positive/opinions (press) are irrelevant as this helps them, regardless.

It's a proven and effective method as we see the cops clued in and pulled back because if the press/opinions die down, some protestor will provoke an ass beating, as it then starts all over again.

It's actually a brilliant plan. This country is in severe political and financial trouble and somethings got to give, as there will be a huge blow-back. That's when these idiots are going to stand up and scream, we told you so and the only thing you did about it was complain about park conditions and shitting in trashcans, setting a clear path for their own true agendas.

I think you think too much.

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12-13-2011, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

The reality of the situation is all OWS is doing is hurting people. It's called being self employed. And no matter what his bills are, the OWS just cost him a day's worth of work.

OWS has accomplished NOTHING. It doesn't even know what it wants. Instead, it just causes the average working Joe his wages for the day. Brilliant.

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