Anybody know a script which does only billing cascade and affiliate tracking?

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  • AmeliaG
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    • Jan 2003
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    #1

    Anybody know a script which does only billing cascade and affiliate tracking?

    Does anyone know a standalone script which does billing cascading and affiliate tracking? I'm really happy with all the sales tools SpookyCash has, so the MPA3, NATS, Executive Stats, and (I think) Partnersoft systems all come with a lot of extraneous stuff for handling POTD and FHGs and all that. We've already got affiliate newsletters, a hosted TGP, and RSS blog feed etc. But it would be cool to find something which would allow me to put multiple billers in an affiliate cascade and track affiliate sales, possibly with referrer tracking. Anything more stripped down available off the rack?
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  • amateurcanada
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    • Jul 2001
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    #2
    Well if you do not wish to use NATS to do those features you can accomplish the same if you use CCBILL to run your program. They have denial and approval urls you can set manually to tranfer to another biller upon denial for a simple cascade. nats allows a much more broad and higher converting cascade system.

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    • Blue Player
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      • Jun 2007
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      #3
      Is this what you are looking for?
      http://am.awizsoft.com/

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      • Paul Markham
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        • Jun 2001
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        #4
        Originally posted by Blue Player
        Is this what you are looking for?
        http://am.awizsoft.com/
        Will get my programmers to look at this.



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        • AmeliaG
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          #5
          Originally posted by Blue Player
          Is this what you are looking for?
          http://am.awizsoft.com/
          Maybe. But how current is it? They still say they support Ibill and that sort of worries me.
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          • Blue Player
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            • Jun 2007
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            #6
            I just brought a copy and have it running with Epoch and CCBill and it seems fine.

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            • Blue Player
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              • Jun 2007
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              #7
              The affiliate can choose how the cascade works etc, pretty good stats display. Can track by banner.

              I have yet to go live with it but at the moment I am pretty please with it. I have tested a site with it over the past month and it has increased turnover by 60% due to the way I set it up.

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              • After Shock Media
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                • Mar 2001
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                #8
                Originally posted by AmeliaG
                Maybe. But how current is it? They still say they support Ibill and that sort of worries me.
                Support is quick, they seem to be on the ball and honestly I think they are just too damn busy to work on their own site at all. I am still tinkering with it as well as their cms.

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                • nata25
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                  • Feb 2002
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AmeliaG
                  Maybe. But how current is it? They still say they support Ibill and that sort of worries me.
                  Sorry, where did you see IBILL?... Maybe you get some cached page.
                  On the site:
                  http://am.awizsoft.com/
                  is stated: CCBILL, Paycom, Segpay, 2000Charge.
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                  • Blue Player
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                    • Jun 2007
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by nata25
                    Sorry, where did you see IBILL?... Maybe you get some cached page.
                    On the site:
                    http://am.awizsoft.com/
                    is stated: CCBILL, Paycom, Segpay, 2000Charge.
                    Segpay is Ibill, just Ibill minus all the debts.
                    Last edited by Blue Player; 09-02-2007, 03:27 AM.

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                    • nata25
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                      • Feb 2002
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Blue Player
                      Segpay is Ibill, just Ibill minus all the debts.
                      SegPay is different engine, which does work on the market now. For Affiliate script it is the only what does matter. To use or not to use this service - is a matter of clients' choice
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                      • Blue Player
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                        • Jun 2007
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                        #12
                        Even though I havent yet tested with alot of affiliate the awiz script from what I have seen so far I would recommend it.

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                        • AmeliaG
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blue Player
                          Even though I havent yet tested with alot of affiliate the awiz script from what I have seen so far I would recommend it.
                          Any idea if that software is $349 or $895? Any major programs using it? How it compares to say Partnersoft?
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                          • aico
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                            • Mar 2004
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Blue Player
                            I just brought a copy and have it running with Epoch and CCBill and it seems fine.
                            Just out of curiosity, if you have Epoch, why wouldn't you use their MPA3 powered system? It allows for cascading with CCBill and others, and it's free.

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                            • Mutt
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                              • Sep 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by aico
                              Just out of curiosity, if you have Epoch, why wouldn't you use their MPA3 powered system? It allows for cascading with CCBill and others, and it's free.
                              cascading where if the surfer is rejected by Paycom and cascades to CCBILL and joins the affiliate's CCBILL code gets tracked and he gets his payout from CCBILL?
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                              • aico
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                                • Mar 2004
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                cascading where if the surfer is rejected by Paycom and cascades to CCBILL and joins the affiliate's CCBILL code gets tracked and he gets his payout from CCBILL?
                                no, Epoch still pays the affiliate on the CCBill sales.

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                                • Mutt
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                                  • Sep 2002
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by aico
                                  no, Epoch still pays the affiliate on the CCBill sales.
                                  huh? so how does Paycom get compensated for paying out an affiliate on a signup Paycom didn't even process?
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                                  • After Shock Media
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Mutt
                                    huh? so how does Paycom get compensated for paying out an affiliate on a signup Paycom didn't even process?
                                    I would imagine it works like Nats does. The affiliate program has 1 account with paycom, 1 with ccbill, and whatnot. The affiliate program gets 1 large check from each program and of course they must act as the check writer and send out checks themselves instead of paycom doing it. The lite version would keep track of who is owed what etc. Though this is just a random guess.

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                                    • aico
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                                      • Mar 2004
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                      huh? so how does Paycom get compensated for paying out an affiliate on a signup Paycom didn't even process?
                                      they don't get compensated, they pay it out of your balance. Are all your sales generated from affiliates?
                                      Last edited by aico; 09-02-2007, 04:51 PM.

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                                      • AmeliaG
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by aico
                                        Just out of curiosity, if you have Epoch, why wouldn't you use their MPA3 powered system? It allows for cascading with CCBill and others, and it's free.
                                        (1) The same reason I'm not totally into using MPA3 or NATS -- SpookyCash already has cutting edge sales tools, including some stuff most programs do not have, so I don't really want to rip up my existing program site's good points and jam them into an unnecessary larger template (on another domain too for the Epoch version.) I'd really like to just add billing cascading, direct affiliate tracking, and better tracking of which referring links actually turn into joins. It is also important that old affiliate links continue to work. If I were just starting out, I'd probably opt for the Epoch hosted MPA3 system, but I'm not just starting out.

                                        (2) I'd like to be able to cut checks to affiliates. I think that some of my best affiliates don't even notice that they do well with SpookyCash because they don't get their checks from me. I know I take folks who actually cut me checks a bit more seriously. Not on purpose, but it often works out that way. It is easier to forget a sponsor when the check doesn't come from them.
                                        Last edited by AmeliaG; 09-02-2007, 05:23 PM.
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                                        • aico
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                          (1) The same reason I'm not totally into using MPA3 or NATS -- SpookyCash already has cutting edge sales tools, including some stuff most programs do not have, so I don't really want to rip up my existing program site's good points and jam them into an unnecessary larger template (on another domain too for the Epoch version.) I'd really like to just add billing cascading, direct affiliate tracking, and better tracking of which referring links actually turn into joins. It is also important that old affiliate links continue to work. If I were just starting out, I'd probably opt for the Epoch hosted MPA3 system, but I'm not just starting out.

                                          (2) I'd like to be able to cut checks to affiliates. I think that some of my best affiliates don't even notice that they do well with SpookyCash because they don't get their checks from me. I know I take folks who actually cut me checks a bit more seriously. Not on purpose, but it often works out that way. It is easier to forget a sponsor when the check doesn't come from them.
                                          Actually the question wasn't directed to you, it was direct to the Blue guy who just bought a program to do what he already had available to him.


                                          But to address your #2, you can pay your affiliates with Epoch, or have Epoch cut the check, either works and is available. I actually prefer Epoch does it, this way the affiliates are certain they will get paid, not that I wouldn't pay them, but the assurance is there if Epoch does it.

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                                          • Blue Player
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by aico
                                            Just out of curiosity, if you have Epoch, why wouldn't you use their MPA3 powered system? It allows for cascading with CCBill and others, and it's free.
                                            This script allows the affiliate to choose who they get paid by. There are also loads more tools in there.

                                            Personally after being arse raped by DRM 2000, Ibill and Globill I like to have everything on my server and not rely on any software that accesses 3rd party servers. Then if anyone goes down I dont lose links etc.

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                                            • AmeliaG
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by aico
                                              But to address your #2, you can pay your affiliates with Epoch, or have Epoch cut the check, either works and is available.
                                              That is what I thought too, but apparently the program can't cut the check; ya have to let Epoch do it.
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                                              • AmeliaG
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Blue Player
                                                This script allows the affiliate to choose who they get paid by. There are also loads more tools in there.

                                                Personally after being arse raped by DRM 2000, Ibill and Globill I like to have everything on my server and not rely on any software that accesses 3rd party servers. Then if anyone goes down I dont lose links etc.
                                                Heh, Ibill only really copped an inappropriate feel off me, but, yeah, the Globill thing hurt, especially because I paid all of my affiliates out of pocket. It was cool in the long run because they were okay staying with me, but, wow, oh wow, did it suck in the short run.

                                                So I definitely hear ya on this one.
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                                                • aico
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                  That is what I thought too, but apparently the program can't cut the check; ya have to let Epoch do it.
                                                  No you don't, I can pay or I can choose to let them pay. It's very simple, I either click Epoch to Pay, or I to pay. Not sure where you are getting your info, but I use Epoch and I know I can pay if I choose.

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                                                  • AmeliaG
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by aico
                                                    No you don't, I can pay or I can choose to let them pay. It's very simple, I either click Epoch to Pay, or I to pay. Not sure where you are getting your info, but I use Epoch and I know I can pay if I choose.
                                                    I believe they initially intended to set it up that way, but the option did not end up being included in the final product roll-out.
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                                                    • jacked
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                                                      #27
                                                      clickman has something that sounds like it would suit your needs

                                                      http://clickman.com/clickcash.html

                                                      look at the mid-level and full system

                                                      either way give him a shout i'm sure he'll be able to put something together for you
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                                                      • aico
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                        I believe they initially intended to set it up that way, but the option did not end up being included in the final product roll-out.
                                                        ha, well look at that, the option gone now... I stand corrected. It was there at some point, I swear.

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                                                        • Lange
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                                                          #29
                                                          Just to clear a couple of things up with regards to Epoch...

                                                          Epoch pays all partnership (revshare) sales processed through Epoch by default.

                                                          With sales processed through your secondary biller, you can have Epoch pay the affiliates or you can pay the affiliates.

                                                          If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

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                                                          • AmeliaG
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jacked
                                                            clickman has something that sounds like it would suit your needs

                                                            http://clickman.com/clickcash.html

                                                            look at the mid-level and full system

                                                            either way give him a shout i'm sure he'll be able to put something together for you

                                                            Any idea what the pricing on that is or what some programs using it are? Thanks!
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                                                            • jacked
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                              Any idea what the pricing on that is or what some programs using it are? Thanks!
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                                                              • AmeliaG
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jacked
                                                                give me a shout on icq
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