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12-05-2011, 09:31 AM

what is going on this month. I can't remember when last time I had 1:3400 conversions. My average conversion for all those years is stable and it is 1:1000. this is more then three times worse.

Someone experiencing same?

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12-05-2011, 09:41 AM

for me December is always mediocre as far as adult goes because everyone is spending their money on xmas stuff. i have noticed worse ratios, however not as bad as you mention.

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12-05-2011, 09:46 AM

Last month I've ended with 1:817 (uniques).
December 2010 was: 1:1011
December 2009 was: 1:824
December 2008 was: 1:953
December 2007 was: 1:561

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12-05-2011, 09:48 AM

Based on how much traffic is that?

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12-05-2011, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by femdomdestiny

what is going on this month. I can't remember when last time I had 1:3400 conversions. My average conversion for all those years is stable and it is 1:1000. this is more then three times worse.

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Have you experienced some chargebacks recently ?
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12-05-2011, 09:59 AM

nope. Nothing unusual. Just at the end of last month two, but that's on some sponsor I am not promoting so much.

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12-05-2011, 10:01 AM

Paysite conversions aren't going to get any better any time soon. Plus we're not even five days in so unless you are pushing 25,000 or more uniques to sponsors daily it's a pretty small sample. And if you're mostly ccbill then you probably don't need me to tell you the reality of that.

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12-05-2011, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by femdomdestiny

nope. Nothing unusual. Just at the end of last month two, but that's on some sponsor I am not promoting so much.

CCBill? Check your chargeback:transaction ratios both last month and for the year. There is a rumor that CCBill scrubs affiliates more if that ratio is too high. afaik it's just a rumor and no one knows if it's true besides ccbill staff.

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12-05-2011, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

CCBill? Check your chargeback:transaction ratios both last month and for the year. There is a rumor that CCBill scrubs affiliates more if that ratio is too high. afaik it's just a rumor and no one knows if it's true besides ccbill staff.

I have reasons to think that's true.
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12-05-2011, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

CCBill? Check your chargeback:transaction ratios both last month and for the year. There is a rumor that CCBill scrubs affiliates more if that ratio is too high. afaik it's just a rumor and no one knows if it's true besides ccbill staff.

where I can see that? I am looking at nifty stats , 0 chargebacks last month and 1 refund.

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12-05-2011, 10:15 AM

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I have reasons to think that's true.

If it's true then I think they should publish some kind of indicator that CB are considered too high and that the affiliate is getting scrubbed for it. Most of the CB I get are from sponsors which are barely alive and haven't updated in years. I'd rather pull them than take the risk of them messing up my conversions with higher volume programs. They should be doing something about those programs not targeting established affiliates who have no control over the member area. Not to mention that much of the CB problem has to do with the shitty pre checked cross sales some programs have.

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12-05-2011, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by femdomdestiny

where I can see that? I am looking at nifty stats , 0 chargebacks last month and 1 refund.

If you change the range it should show you. If not use your ccbill stats. Take Refunds+Chargebacks divided by sales and rebills. 1% is the accepted number from the card companies. Anything over 2% is definitely high. Keep in mind no one knows if they really do this let alone what the numbers are.

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12-05-2011, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

Paysite conversions aren't going to get any better any time soon. Plus we're not even five days in so unless you are pushing 25,000 or more uniques to sponsors daily it's a pretty small sample. And if you're mostly ccbill then you probably don't need me to tell you the reality of that.

What's your analysis seeing no improvement for lower traffic sites? ` Holidays? ` Last yr this time conversions were good. `
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12-05-2011, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

If you change the range it should show you. If not use your ccbill stats. Take Refunds+Chargebacks divided by sales and rebills. 1% is the accepted number from the card companies. Anything over 2% is definitely high. Keep in mind no one knows if they really do this let alone what the numbers are.

They have probably also stats for a lower range of days.
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12-05-2011, 10:39 AM

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What's your analysis seeing no improvement for lower traffic sites? ` Holidays? ` Last yr this time conversions were good. `

I think paysite ratios are just going to get worse every year unless something major changes. That's always been the trend. This time the holidays will hurt too but what I mean with the lower traffic sites is only the sample size. If you only send 2,000 uniques per day out over five days that's just 10,000 uniques to go on. If you send 25,000 uniques out per day it's 125,000 so you have a larger sample and it should be more consistent. But for a small affiliate it should still normally about even out on a monthly basis even if they only send 2,000 uniques a day.

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12-05-2011, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

I think paysite ratios are just going to get worse every year unless something major changes. That's always been the trend. This time the holidays will hurt too but what I mean with the lower traffic sites is only the sample size. If you only send 2,000 uniques per day out over five days that's just 10,000 uniques to go on. If you send 25,000 uniques out per day it's 125,000 so you have a larger sample and it should be more consistent. But for a small affiliate it should still normally about even out on a monthly basis even if they only send 2,000 uniques a day.

yes, but no. There is another explanation.
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12-05-2011, 10:45 AM

same here 1:2500

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12-05-2011, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by pornmasta

yes, but no. There is another explanation.

Oh I agree. Lots of possible explanations.

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12-05-2011, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

Paysite conversions aren't going to get any better any time soon. Plus we're not even five days in so unless you are pushing 25,000 or more uniques to sponsors daily it's a pretty small sample. And if you're mostly ccbill then you probably don't need me to tell you the reality of that.

My conversions ,if day is bad ,or week (but almost never happen for whole week), won't exceed 1:1600. It is always same or similar for years, so I doubt it is too early. I know my sales and traffic very good

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12-05-2011, 11:55 AM

Last month 1:2100

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12-05-2011, 12:00 PM

and what is you average during year before that month? I gess it also depends on niche

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12-05-2011, 12:08 PM

Average this year is actually 1:3000. I thought it was better than that, to be honest.

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12-05-2011, 12:19 PM

Looks pretty average so far. Kinda like It's been this whole year. Running a steady over-all at around 1:1000.

The only thing converting really good is our eurorevenue sites, especially germangoogirls and bukkakeboys. Looking at under 1:300 averages for them to start Dec and was like that whole November too. Too bad I don't have as much bukkake and gay traffic as I have other.

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12-06-2011, 07:46 PM

It's cause programs are now forced to shave triple as much as usual to get their .xxx domains.
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