Norwegian Mass Murderer May Never sentenced to prison - Right or wrong? (PS. Anders Behring Breivik)

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  • OY
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    • Oct 2002
    • 5401

    #1

    Norwegian Mass Murderer May Never sentenced to prison - Right or wrong? (PS. Anders Behring Breivik)

    So as some of you may have heard already - Anders Behring Breivik has been decleared INSANE. According to Norwegian law, insane people cannot be sentenced to prison or preventive detention. He can, however, be confined to a mental hospital for the rest of his life.

    CNN:

    "Anders Behring Breivik suffers "grandiose delusions" and "believes he is chosen to decide who is to live and who is to die," Prosecutor Svein Holden announced.

    Police said psychiatrists had determined that the 32-year-old man was psychotic at the time of the attacks and during 13 interviews experts conducted with him afterward. The doctors also found him to be paranoid and schizophrenic, police said."

    LA Times:

    "A psychiatric evaluation has found that Anders Behring Breivik, the man who killed 77 people in Norway in July, was clinically insane at the time of the attacks, prosecutors said Tuesday.

    The finding could pave the way for psychiatric treatment instead of a prison sentence for the right-wing, anti-Muslim militant, according to Norwegian law.

    After hours of interviews with Breivik, two forensic psychiatrists concluded that he was a paranoid schizophrenic who operated in his own "delusional universe""

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    So the question is simple; Do you agree that INSANE people should be put into mental care institutions rather than prisons?

    (PS. Death penalty is not the issue here. Norway does not have death penalty.)

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  • v4 media
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    • Feb 2005
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    #2
    You can hold the insane indefinitely, in Norway you can't keep people in prison more than about 20 years. So maybe not a bad idea.

    The UK did it with the Yorkshire Ripper.

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    • Fletch XXX
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      • Jan 2002
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      #3
      prisons are rehabilitation centers.

      There is no hope for rehabilitating an insane person why would you put them in jail?

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      • MaDalton
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        #4
        whatever it takes so that he will be never free again
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        • nextri
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          • May 2004
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          #5
          I think it's a good thing, because him being classified as insane, gives his political agenda less credibility, and is probably not what he was hoping for. People tend to not take people diagnosed with "paranoid schizophrenia" very serious.
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          • pornmasta
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            • Jun 2006
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            #6
            The problem is that nobody believes that he is really insane.
            We are talking about an non existent 3rd party that believes it, because they decided he is...
            There is obviously a problem with this system.

            Or you need another sentence or this is totalitarism...
            Last edited by pornmasta; 11-30-2011, 06:12 AM.

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            • pornmasta
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              • Jun 2006
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              #7
              Originally posted by nextri
              I think it's a good thing, because him being classified as insane, gives his political agenda less credibility, and is probably not what he was hoping for. People tend to not take people diagnosed with "paranoid schizophrenia" very serious.
              Do you think he is insane ?
              He is inhuman but not insane...
              Last edited by pornmasta; 11-30-2011, 06:16 AM.

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              • PR_Glen
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                • Oct 2006
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                #8
                Originally posted by pornmasta
                Do you think he is insane ?
                He is inhuman but not insane...
                what are you basing that off of? I'm pretty sure the team of psychiatrists analyzing him for the last 6 months have a better grasp than you do...


                Why do people get the impression that an insane asylum is this fantastic great place compared to prison? Go visit one.. they are far worse... Most of us would go crazy being in one for more than a day.
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                • scottybuzz
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                  • May 2006
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PR_Glen
                  what are you basing that off of? I'm pretty sure the team of psychiatrists analyzing him for the last 6 months have a better grasp than you do...


                  Why do people get the impression that an insane asylum is this fantastic great place compared to prison? Go visit one.. they are far worse... Most of us would go crazy being in one for more than a day.
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                  • OY
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                    • Oct 2002
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                    prisons are rehabilitation centers.

                    There is no hope for rehabilitating an insane person why would you put them in jail?
                    Actually they are talking about it being possible to treat and maybe cure him. Will he then get out, doubtful.

                    I personally think he is a smart and tipped over completely. Insane? Probably... but I am not 100% sure.
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                    • LAJ
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                      • Jun 2001
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                      whatever it takes so that he will be never free again
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                      • Cyber Fucker
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                        • Sep 2005
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                        #12
                        I think that he probably wants to be in prison that's why some isolated and secure mental institution could be possibly better punishment for him... also there is probably no maximum years sentence for mental institution.. so he could be kept there to the end of his life. But I'm no one to judge here.
                        Last edited by Cyber Fucker; 11-30-2011, 07:46 AM.

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                        • ottopottomouse
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                          #13
                          Send him to an asylum and even if he is sane and managing to pretend at the moment he won't stay sane for long after he's admitted as a patient. Even the staff at those places end up with a very twisted idea of what is normality.
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                          • pornmasta
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                            • Jun 2006
                            • 20017

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PR_Glen
                            what are you basing that off of? I'm pretty sure the team of psychiatrists analyzing him for the last 6 months have a better grasp than you do...


                            Why do people get the impression that an insane asylum is this fantastic great place compared to prison? Go visit one.. they are far worse... Most of us would go crazy being in one for more than a day.

                            In one word: "hypocrisy"

                            1st asylum are here to cure people not to make them crazy.
                            But i guess this is what you suggest we do to him.

                            2nd he is able to plan something during years. He need to think how to trick people (the bomb) to kill elsewhere, it suggests that he is able of abstraction.
                            So he is not schizophrenic.
                            These psychiatrists are not politician.
                            Do you think that bin laden was insane.
                            He was not and not because muslin people are allowed to be sane terrorists...

                            I'm able to understand his goal, so do you think he is crazy for me ?
                            no, for me he is inhuman...
                            But not insane... and yes he proved a weakness of the system, so even now for me, he won.

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                            • CaptainHowdy
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                              • Dec 2004
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                              #15
                              I don't see the difference ...

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                              • pornmasta
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                                • Jun 2006
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Cyber Fucker
                                I think that he probably wants to be in prison that's why some isolated and secure mental institution could be possibly better punishment for him... also there is probably no maximum years sentence for mental institution.. so he could be kept there to the end of his life. But I'm no one to judge here.
                                The problem is that your are cheating with the system...
                                Last edited by pornmasta; 11-30-2011, 07:56 AM.

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                                • JosephFM
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                                  • Feb 2010
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                                  #17
                                  That motherfucker planned the whole thing and he even traveled to the island after the explosions to shoot those kids.

                                  He knew what he was doing, he is not insane.

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                                  • scottybuzz
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by JosephFM
                                    That motherfucker planned the whole thing and he even traveled to the island after the explosions to shoot those kids.

                                    He knew what he was doing, he is not insane.
                                    reminder: being insane does not mean you are incapable of doing nothing and sit in a chair all day dribbling over yourself.
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                                    • crash_jackson
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                                      #19
                                      He had his reasons... So I vote for his freedom!!
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                                      • pornmasta
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                                        • Jun 2006
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                        reminder: being insane does not mean you are incapable of doing nothing and sit in a chair all day dribbling over yourself.
                                        he can be paranoid or psychopathic. He acted for political reason so he is probably more paranoid than psychopathic. But like i wrote before, i understand that he wanted to prove that there is a problem with the way that norway handles justice and if you have to cheat to put him in jail all his life or he proved a weakness of the system or he proved that Norway is an hypocritical country.

                                        So and since for me it is crystal clear, he is not insane for me...
                                        Last edited by pornmasta; 11-30-2011, 08:16 AM.

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                                        • _Richard_
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                                          • Oct 2006
                                          • 30991

                                          #21
                                          it would be a terrible idea putting that crazy nut in jail

                                          gotta be some reason behind the 'forever in an instituation' thing

                                          on a side note, is there anyone here from that country? any word on investigations into the police response?

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                                          • Nicky
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                                            #22
                                            Putting him in jail will probably lead to more people getting killed. Keep him in a closed institution where he gets 1h of outside time a day in a cage and then back into a 65sq foot room, for the rest of his life.

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                                            • porno jew
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                                              #23
                                              funny in a way as the islamophobic conspiracy theories he believed in were gaining ground and becoming more popular in europe and the US. think the ground zero mosque controversy.

                                              that guy just took the theories to their logical conclusion.

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                                              • Nembrionic
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                prisons are supposed to be rehabilitation centers.

                                                There is no hope for rehabilitating an insane person why would you put them in jail?
                                                There, I fixed that for you.

                                                And I agree. An insane person in a prison is a recipe for disaster.
                                                Put them in a place that's appropriate.

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                                                • OY
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                                                  #25
                                                  I think it is more of an ideological question.

                                                  Do you think that someone that is insane should be held accountable for his/her crime?
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                                                  • OY
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by OY
                                                    I think it is more of an ideological question.

                                                    Do you think that someone that is insane should be held accountable for his/her crime?
                                                    As usual this is a question too sensitive for people to even want to consider...
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                                                    • blackmonsters
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by porno jew
                                                      funny in a way as the islamophobic conspiracy theories he believed in were gaining ground and becoming more popular in europe and the US. think the ground zero mosque controversy.

                                                      that guy just took the theories to their logical conclusion.
                                                      You mean the theory that people who think that way are ultimately murderous fucking slime?

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                                                      • GregE
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by v4 media
                                                        You can hold the insane indefinitely, in Norway you can't keep people in prison more than about 20 years. So maybe not a bad idea.

                                                        The UK did it with the Yorkshire Ripper.
                                                        If a designation of insanity is the only thing that will keep him off of the streets forever, then yeah, that's the way to go.
                                                        Last edited by GregE; 12-01-2011, 03:39 AM.

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                                                        • bronco67
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                                                          #29
                                                          If you've got enough of a handle on your mental faculties to plot something like that, and execute it as planned -- then how fucking "crazy" can you be?

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                                                          • fatfoo
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                                                            #30
                                                            Norwegian Mass Murderer caused a major world change, also causing Norway to get a lower ranking in the "World's Safest Countries" list. It's not for me to judge or decide whether he should be sent to prison or mental institution. The efforts should be focused on prevention of future killings. I'm sure that there are many steps that can be taken to prevent loss of human life.
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