It's illegal?
That sucks, there was a fisting bar I hit up a few times in the city years ago.
Good shit.
That sucks, there was a fisting bar I hit up a few times in the city years ago.
Good shit.
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It's unAmerican not to love a good fisting!
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What if the fister has really small hands, and the fistee, a really big butt?
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Oh don't get me wrong... I have no problem with fisting. If that's what someone wants to do, all parties involved agree... I say, enjoy! I just think there's on display in this thread a lack of understanding of obscenity laws, how they ARE a threat and how the ARE NOT a threat.... and how they work. Hell, even the title of this thread is misinformation.
And for the record... I also think the state of the law is bullshit.Comment
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I had a shit load of one of my DVDs returned from a very large buyer because for TWO SECONDS the guys thumb disappeared. The unwritten rule is, NO THUMBS. During the edit we thought we cut all of that out but you just cant see 100% of his thumb for 2 fucking seconds.
In case you are wondering, we had 2 hands and a cock up an asshole.
Now... it was ok to have 4 fingers from 2 different people AND a huge cock up her ass, but when one of the guys twisted his thumb out of sight for 2 seconds, lord have mercy!!!Comment
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I never was one who enjoyed that particular niche.---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---
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why would it matter? If you really like to fist then gagging would act as a muting agent.Comment
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i know of atleast one US program who have fisting content on their site, would it be appropriate to mention it here ? this is a respectable program too with big names and hot girls and no hardcore.. just solo and the fisting.."Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author UnknownComment
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Allegedly, If one was good at getting their fist into their gf, she would hypothetically claim that, "it is the most intense feeling" she had ever had... further, that it forced her to 'orgasm constantly until the fist was removed'. With that big of an object in the vagina, the G-spot, all of the vaginal wall as well as the cervix is constantly stimulated. Any of these areas can produce orgasm when stimulated individually, so obviously the intensity would be increased when all are simultaneous. Add a tongue to the labia and clitoris and her insanity is guaranteed. Female genitalia is amazingly resilient in that even after a fist or even delivering a baby, intercourse still produces friction. However, in the case of fisting, like anal sex or any sex, would obviously have to be consensual, very conscientious on the penetrator's part, slow and WELL lubricated.
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Would this be considered oral sex to a fister?
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Is obscenity an outdated concept?
If you guys were in charge of writing the sex laws, how would they read?
Would everything be OK except CP?Comment
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Congress voting on fisting?
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There are many in the industry who believe that producers like Rob Black and Max Hardcore deserve whatever they get and bring the industry into the feds radar. I used to be one of them. Now I'm thankful that they're standing up to the authorities because if THEY lose, what's next? Interracial? Gangbangs? Gay? It could be something that WE as an industry may deem entirely acceptable, but those OUTSIDE see as obscene. We'd get no sympathy because in their eyes, WE'D be getting what WE deserve.
The definition of obscene is simply too vague because if you put 10 people in a room, you could very well get 10 different answers. If you put the same 10 people in a room, they could all tell you what constitutes murder though...unless of course one of them is a lawyer. (edit-how can a judge give instructions about what's obscene to a jury?)
Community Standards is even more ridiculous. So one day your community deems what we do as acceptable. Then a bunch of the hardcore moral majority move into your neighborhood and it's all of a sudden illegal??
One reason you'll never see a black and white scenario on the books is because the lawyers wouldn't allow it...not even the ones on our side. If they did, they'd be out of work. We'd all know what we could and couldn't do and wouldn't need a high priced attorney on retainer who can spew nothing more than his INTERPRETATION of the law.Last edited by ronaldo; 08-31-2007, 10:40 AM.Comment
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That's a whole bunch of crap.Vibrators, dildos, cock rings and all other sex toys? We've got them ALL for you.
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I am SHOCKED at how many people here do not understanfd the first thing about US Obscenity law
NOTHING is illegal until a jury declares it obscene and you are convicted for it.
period
end of story
CP is the only thing that is "illegal"Mike South
It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.Comment
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I mean think of it. You get brought up on obscenity charges because you sold a dvd online to a person who ordered it from their living room in a plain brown box to their mailbox (note: not 1 single person in the community knows a damn thing). Now for some reason, community standards are applied and a jury is *forced* to watch your fetish in the courtroom, and decide FOR YOU if you're allowed to watch it.
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I actually get hired for fisting job all the time.....I have small hands!! I have been fisted before......it is actually not painful at all.......you take your time and it is ver sensual and erotic. I have done two live fisting shows.......one way back when at the ia2000 show at one of the parties.Now with VNA Vette Nation Army
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it's basically a liability - production companies dont shoot it usually because the distributors tell them not to or they won't buy the products - so - if a producer wants to shoot it they can - but - if they want to sell it they can't sell it everywhere - we used to call it the european version because the market isnt as much of a risk for the more extreme content overseas from what I understand - it is always about the sales - legal is a bit of a strange animal and definately best to get a lawyer if it's your ass on the line.Comment
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