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11-28-2011, 07:16 PM

does it hurt your original site's SEO?

i am using juicy ads mobile and have it going through juicy and then onto another of my sites if they don't serve an add...

i checked my analytics and see search traffic to my brand new 3 page site for terms from my OG site... i understand how this happens, just curious if it's doing damage
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11-28-2011, 07:18 PM

If you're only redirecting mobile browsers and not GoogleBot, why would it?
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11-28-2011, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by edgeprod

If you're only redirecting mobile browsers and not GoogleBot, why would it?

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11-28-2011, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by edgeprod

If you're only redirecting mobile browsers and not GoogleBot, why would it?

because google works in mysterious ways.......
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11-28-2011, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by JohnRingo

because google works in mysterious ways.......

Usually less mysteriously than people think.
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11-28-2011, 07:28 PM

I have been redirecting my mobile traffic for over a year now and I have not seen any negative changes.

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11-28-2011, 07:35 PM

Anyone have good experiences redirecting ALL of their mobile traffic to Juicy Ads? If I redirected a lot of my traffic I would be making around $15/daily at Juicy soo around $450/monthly which I could use to buy advertising or just use as extra income...just wondering if this would be a good idea or not.

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11-28-2011, 07:47 PM

i have a small site with small traffic and use juicy mobile and make good money considering

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11-28-2011, 08:41 PM

Does it really make sense to use those redirects?

Nowadays most people enter with smartphones, as I can see in my stats, and in smartphones, people see your sites like in a small computer... So it really makes no sense to use those redirects..

Of course im not a mobile specialist, correct me if im wrong, but when I see an adult blog in a smartphone, I see it as in a small computer, the wordpress theme is rendered the same way. Again correct me if im wrong.
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11-28-2011, 08:52 PM

In my honest opinion, redirecting ALL your mobile traffic should be some last resort can't make a dime doing shit else thing...

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11-28-2011, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by VenusBlogger

Does it really make sense to use those redirects?

Nowadays most people enter with smartphones, as I can see in my stats, and in smartphones, people see your sites like in a small computer... So it really makes no sense to use those redirects..

Of course im not a mobile specialist, correct me if im wrong, but when I see an adult blog in a smartphone, I see it as in a small computer, the wordpress theme is rendered the same way. Again correct me if im wrong.

I only direct certain phones to the mobile pages, and I offer the option to "break out" and use the full site if they so choose.
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11-28-2011, 09:10 PM

Been redirecting mobile for at least a year now to various places, not just a site or two but with an .htaccess file in the root of my server redirected everything (besides a few specific sites that are sent elsewhere for niche and better conversion purposes), never really noticed any substantial dips, the amount of traffic has only risen over time.

Originally posted by edgeprod

If you're only redirecting mobile browsers and not GoogleBot, why would it?

So you receive the mobile traffic because of the page you're redirecting to and not the non-mobile version of your page?

Edit: I see what you mean now, you receive the traffic because the googlebot is not mobile. So there is no mobile googlebot? Hard to believe.

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Does it really make sense to use those redirects?

Nowadays most people enter with smartphones, as I can see in my stats, and in smartphones, people see your sites like in a small computer... So it really makes no sense to use those redirects..

Of course im not a mobile specialist, correct me if im wrong, but when I see an adult blog in a smartphone, I see it as in a small computer, the wordpress theme is rendered the same way. Again correct me if im wrong.

I wonder the same thing. I think at this point in time it is still better to send them to something directly made for mobile. In the future when it's more likely to convert mobile as well as the non-mobile on the same page it might not be a good idea to just redirect all this traffic somewhere.

But of course that depends on if you're trying to make money or gain readers.

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11-28-2011, 09:10 PM

Nobody that wonders wtf cares what u do.

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11-28-2011, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Jakez

Edit: I see what you mean now, you receive the traffic because the googlebot is not mobile. So there is no mobile googlebot? Hard to believe.

I answered his question as I interpreted it: does Google penalize you for having mobile redirects? No, when done properly. You can optimize a separate subdomain for mobile (e.g., mobile.domain.com) which can be fed to GoogleBot. You don't want your mobile site ranking for non-mobile users, optimally. Your non-mobile site is fine to rank for mobile users, because they'll get redirected.

Hope that makes sense.
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11-28-2011, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by CyberHustler

In my honest opinion, redirecting ALL your mobile traffic should be some last resort can't make a dime doing shit else thing...

Not entirely true. I have a site that does well but doesn't convert mobile. So yes, using juicy mobile ads is a nice way to add to the bottom line.
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11-28-2011, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by JohnRingo

Not entirely true. I have a site that does well but doesn't convert mobile. So yes, using juicy mobile ads is a nice way to add to the bottom line.

This approach is used in two common scenarios: 1) when you cannot convert your own mobile traffic (in JR's case, his content may not be applicable for mobile), and 2) when you don't have significant mobile traffic to warrant catering to it.
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11-28-2011, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by JohnRingo

Not entirely true. I have a site that does well but doesn't convert mobile. So yes, using juicy mobile ads is a nice way to add to the bottom line.

Exactly. But like I said, in the future, who knows if mobile traffic will convert close to non-mobile on the same non-mobile site. For now IMO it's a good idea to redirect it somewhere to make the most of it.

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11-28-2011, 10:05 PM

And the awesome thing with juicy is that their mobile code offers u to pass through to another of your more mOblie friendly sites as wel.
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11-28-2011, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by JohnRingo

And the awesome thing with juicy is that their mobile code offers u to pass through to another of your more mOblie friendly sites as wel.

Know of any places to send the non-purchased traffic that pays similar to Juicy?

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11-28-2011, 10:20 PM

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11-28-2011, 10:32 PM

Just an advice for people. Do NOT redirect iPad and iPhone traffic to mobile sites. I have done extensive testing with this, and you will get MORE sales form your iPhone and iPad traffic if you send them to the full site instead of the mobile version.
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11-28-2011, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Konda

Just an advice for people. Do NOT redirect iPad and iPhone traffic to mobile sites. I have done extensive testing with this, and you will get MORE sales form your iPhone and iPad traffic if you send them to the full site instead of the mobile version.

Interesting. But it surely to depends on the site?

Also, most paysites will redirect your mobile traffic to their mobile version, which has far different conversions.

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11-28-2011, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by Jakez

Interesting. But it surely to depends on the site?

Also, most paysites will redirect your mobile traffic to their mobile version, which has far different conversions.

I noticed indeed that some paysites are sending their iPhone and iPad traffic to their mobile versions, I am sure most of them have not even bothered to check if they are actually making more sales from this traffic by doing this. I have done a lot of tests in this field and on all tests iPhone and iPad traffic converts better on non-mobile versions.
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11-28-2011, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Konda

I noticed indeed that some paysites are sending their iPhone and iPad traffic to their mobile versions, I am sure most of them have not even bothered to check if they are actually making more sales from this traffic by doing this. I have done a lot of tests in this field and on all tests iPhone and iPad traffic converts better on non-mobile versions.

This has also been my experience. I do not redirect iPad/iPod/iPhone users to mobile on most sites. And on the few that I do, I give them the option to see the full site instead.
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11-29-2011, 03:48 AM

I would think that a lesson can be learned from this. From what I see, mobile versions of sites give away a lot less free content. Could this be why they convert so well?
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11-29-2011, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by Konda

Just an advice for people. Do NOT redirect iPad and iPhone traffic to mobile sites. I have done extensive testing with this, and you will get MORE sales form your iPhone and iPad traffic if you send them to the full site instead of the mobile version.

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11-29-2011, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by Konda

I noticed indeed that some paysites are sending their iPhone and iPad traffic to their mobile versions, I am sure most of them have not even bothered to check if they are actually making more sales from this traffic by doing this. I have done a lot of tests in this field and on all tests iPhone and iPad traffic converts better on non-mobile versions.
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11-29-2011, 04:13 PM

Google says:
- if you redirect it to mobile version of your site - they will improve your rankings
- if you redirect it somewhere else - they will fuck you up (or at least will not send you any mobile traffic)

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11-29-2011, 06:46 PM

Well I am testing this and will let u know
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11-29-2011, 06:57 PM

It's got to suck being dependent on a 3rd party for traffic man oh man
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11-30-2011, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Solace

It's got to suck being dependent on a 3rd party for traffic man oh man

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11-30-2011, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by Konda

Just an advice for people. Do NOT redirect iPad and iPhone traffic to mobile sites. I have done extensive testing with this, and you will get MORE sales form your iPhone and iPad traffic if you send them to the full site instead of the mobile version.

What would be a logic explaination for this?

We only redirect iphone traffic to mobile, not the ipad though. We also still offer the full desktop option if they want.

Are you talking about paysites?

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11-30-2011, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by HomerSimpson

Google says:
- if you redirect it to mobile version of your site - they will improve your rankings
- if you redirect it somewhere else - they will fuck you up (or at least will not send you any mobile traffic)

just my 2c

This mirrors my experience.
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