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  • VforVendetta
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    • Mar 2006
    • 2525

    #1

    LiveJasmin cookie question

    Why if someone click on my link and signup on livejasmin, i shouldn't earn money for this ? Actually it's very difficult find someone that doesn't have the livejasmin cookie in his pc....i don't know why they choose this way to tracking affiliate id, i think it's totally wrong.
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  • helterskelter808
    So Fucking Banned
    • Sep 2010
    • 3405

    #2
    Originally posted by VforVendetta
    Why if someone click on my link and signup on livejasmin, i shouldn't earn money for this ? Actually it's very difficult find someone that doesn't have the livejasmin cookie in his pc....i don't know why they choose this way to tracking affiliate id, i think it's totally wrong.
    Hmm. If only there was a solution to this.

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    • 2intense
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      • Dec 2009
      • 12496

      #3
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      • VforVendetta
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        • Mar 2006
        • 2525

        #4
        Originally posted by 2intense
        links deleted long time ago
        ?? What's links ?
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        • stocktrader23
          Let's do some business.
          • Jan 2003
          • 18781

          #5
          Originally posted by VforVendetta
          Why if someone click on my link and signup on livejasmin, i shouldn't earn money for this ? Actually it's very difficult find someone that doesn't have the livejasmin cookie in his pc....i don't know why they choose this way to tracking affiliate id, i think it's totally wrong.
          You should. You don't. Remove links. Move on.


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          • HandballJim
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            • Sep 2008
            • 4024

            #6
            I was never able to convert with them...
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            • helterskelter808
              So Fucking Banned
              • Sep 2010
              • 3405

              #7
              Originally posted by VforVendetta
              ?? What's links ?
              If you went to a shop and felt they were ripping you off, would you continue shopping there?

              Edit: A link is a massive pink thing that HandballJim always posts, along with a few spurious words of white text.
              Last edited by helterskelter808; 11-13-2011, 10:06 AM.

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              • martinsc
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                • Jun 2005
                • 27043

                #8
                sometimes decisions seem to come out of peoples asses instead out of their head....
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                • Tempest
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                  • May 2004
                  • 10217

                  #9
                  Originally posted by VforVendetta
                  Why if someone click on my link and signup on livejasmin, i shouldn't earn money for this ? Actually it's very difficult find someone that doesn't have the livejasmin cookie in his pc....i don't know why they choose this way to tracking affiliate id, i think it's totally wrong.
                  Stop promoting them... They only way they'll change things is if they start to lose significant affiliates and traffic.

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                  • TubeSubmitters
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 2679

                    #10
                    Don't they have a 7 minute cookie or something?
                    Buying sites with income, paying by paxum, hit me up

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                    • Pete Goodman
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 99

                      #11
                      when sites like www.sex.com and every major tube have popups to them, how do you expect to make money?

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                      • stocktrader23
                        Let's do some business.
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 18781

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bengtarne
                        Don't they have a 7 minute cookie or something?


                        I'd say worse actually.

                        Originally posted by Pete Goodman
                        when sites like www.sex.com and every major tube have popups to them, how do you expect to make money?
                        New cookies are supposed to overwrite old cookies. If some idiot sends a surfer to a popup and pisses them off then they hit my website where I sell the product and link them to it I should get credit. The fact that they DON'T give credit to the last cookie shows that they intend to take the money for themselves.

                        Does the affiliate cookie have the same persistence or is it only their cookies? I mean I could cookie a million people with a 1x1 iframe of their site but something tells me I wouldn't make a single sale because they only use the magic trailing cookie on their own code.
                        Last edited by stocktrader23; 11-13-2011, 11:00 AM.


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                        • porno jew
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                          • Nov 2006
                          • 10166

                          #13
                          had a few whales from them.

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                          • VforVendetta
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                            • Mar 2006
                            • 2525

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stocktrader23
                            New cookies are supposed to overwrite old cookies. If some idiot sends a surfer to a popup and pisses them off then they hit my website where I sell the product and link them to it I should get credit. The fact that they DON'T give credit to the last cookie shows that they intend to take the money for themselves.
                            Right, but i don't understand why they choose this criterion....in this way they help all the tubes and all that sites that open pop-up or use other systems to place lj cookie.
                            Little sites like mine that work with search engine to receive traffic aren't facilitate to get credits. I think they should pay the latest webmaster site that send the signup, and not the old webmaster that place their cookie with a pop-up....boh, i don't understand
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                            • Tempest
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                              • May 2004
                              • 10217

                              #15
                              Originally posted by VforVendetta
                              Right, but i don't understand why they choose this criterion....in this way they help all the tubes and all that sites that open pop-up or use other systems to place lj cookie.
                              Little sites like mine that work with search engine to receive traffic aren't facilitate to get credits. I think they should pay the latest webmaster site that send the signup, and not the old webmaster that place their cookie with a pop-up....boh, i don't understand
                              What's to understand.... Allow cookie stuffing.. Get a shit ton of traffic... Drive your site way up the alexa rankings and SERPs to get even more traffic and sales... Since everyone is popping the site on the tubes etc, everyone knows about it so if they're looking for cams they'll probably end up going their on their own. Do some other "tricks" with the cookies to "facilitate" getting sales without having to pay affiliates... Why should they give a fuck about the little affiliates...

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                              • porno jew
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 10166

                                #16
                                how does their cookie system work exactly? can a awe rep pls clarify?

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                                • RyuLion
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 32365

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bengtarne
                                  Don't they have a 7 minute cookie or something?
                                  You are kidding right? This is soooo wrong..

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                                  • helterskelter808
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Sep 2010
                                    • 3405

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by porno jew
                                    how does their cookie system work exactly? can a awe rep pls clarify?
                                    I don't think they could ever explain their labyrinthine rules and exceptions and clauses on their own message board, so I doubt you'll get a clear answer here.

                                    Can't speak for now because I haven't promoted them for over 5 years, but back then IIRC they had a 14 day cookie or some such bullshit which, AFAIK, meant revshare ended after 14 days.

                                    Personally I found that absurd, but I guess it works both ways, since it means other people can't lock in a referral for life, so you can make money from someone who has already been referred.

                                    As for this cookie thing, ironically I think it may have come about by request of affiliates. I seem to remember years ago people complaining that their cookies were being overwritten by cookie stuffers, so AWE made it so the cookie couldn't be overwritten. I could be misremembering that though.

                                    With a cookie with a very short life it makes sense and seems fair to me though, because if you refer someone to a site and they don't sign up immediately, but come back to it a week later, if they've been to a site that has stuffed a cookie in the meantime then you won't get credit, even though you're the one who originally referred them.

                                    Basically people will complain whatever system it is, if it's not their cookie that's counted.

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                                    • porno jew
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Nov 2006
                                      • 10166

                                      #19
                                      well they have lifetime revshare now which seems to be working, but yeah no idea on the obscure cookie rules.

                                      Originally posted by helterskelter808
                                      I don't think they could ever explain their labyrinthine rules and exceptions and clauses on their own message board, so I doubt you'll get a clear answer here.

                                      Can't speak for now because I haven't promoted them for over 5 years, but back then IIRC they had a 14 day cookie or some such bullshit which, AFAIK, meant revshare ended after 14 days.

                                      Personally I found that absurd, but I guess it works both ways, since it means other people can't lock in a referral for life, so you can make money from someone who has already been referred.

                                      As for this cookie thing, ironically I think it may have come about by request of affiliates. I seem to remember years ago people complaining that their cookies were being overwritten by cookie stuffers, so AWE made it so the cookie couldn't be overwritten. I could be misremembering that though.

                                      With a cookie with a very short life it makes sense and seems fair to me though, because if you refer someone to a site and they don't sign up immediately, but come back to it a week later, if they've been to a site that has stuffed a cookie in the meantime then you won't get credit, even though you're the one who originally referred them.

                                      Basically people will complain whatever system it is, if it's not their cookie that's counted.

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                                      • stocktrader23
                                        Let's do some business.
                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 18781

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by VforVendetta
                                        Right, but i don't understand why they choose this criterion....in this way they help all the tubes and all that sites that open pop-up or use other systems to place lj cookie.
                                        Little sites like mine that work with search engine to receive traffic aren't facilitate to get credits. I think they should pay the latest webmaster site that send the signup, and not the old webmaster that place their cookie with a pop-up....boh, i don't understand
                                        Who do you think is buying up all of that tube traffic. (Hint: The tube sites most likely aren't affiliates)

                                        Originally posted by Tempest
                                        What's to understand.... Allow cookie stuffing.. Get a shit ton of traffic... Drive your site way up the alexa rankings and SERPs to get even more traffic and sales... Since everyone is popping the site on the tubes etc, everyone knows about it so if they're looking for cams they'll probably end up going their on their own. Do some other "tricks" with the cookies to "facilitate" getting sales without having to pay affiliates... Why should they give a fuck about the little affiliates...
                                        Or buy ads and stuff your own cookie that can't be overwritten.

                                        Originally posted by helterskelter808
                                        I don't think they could ever explain their labyrinthine rules and exceptions and clauses on their own message board, so I doubt you'll get a clear answer here.

                                        Can't speak for now because I haven't promoted them for over 5 years, but back then IIRC they had a 14 day cookie or some such bullshit which, AFAIK, meant revshare ended after 14 days.

                                        Personally I found that absurd, but I guess it works both ways, since it means other people can't lock in a referral for life, so you can make money from someone who has already been referred.

                                        As for this cookie thing, ironically I think it may have come about by request of affiliates. I seem to remember years ago people complaining that their cookies were being overwritten by cookie stuffers, so AWE made it so the cookie couldn't be overwritten. I could be misremembering that though.

                                        With a cookie with a very short life it makes sense and seems fair to me though, because if you refer someone to a site and they don't sign up immediately, but come back to it a week later, if they've been to a site that has stuffed a cookie in the meantime then you won't get credit, even though you're the one who originally referred them.

                                        Basically people will complain whatever system it is, if it's not their cookie that's counted.
                                        I'm almost positive that your cookie is overwritten but theirs isn't. It would be nice if someone would clarify.


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                                        • Jarmusch
                                           
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 12479

                                          #21
                                          I remember AWE once said they don't use cookies on their tube popunder buys, I just don't remember if it was on GFY or on their defunct board.

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                                          • porno jew
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Nov 2006
                                            • 10166

                                            #22
                                            why do people think cookies don't get overridden? any tests or just speculation?

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                                            • rowan
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                                              • Mar 2002
                                              • 17393

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by helterskelter808
                                              Can't speak for now because I haven't promoted them for over 5 years, but back then IIRC they had a 14 day cookie or some such bullshit which, AFAIK, meant revshare ended after 14 days.
                                              If I remember correctly it wasn't that the cookie (for new sales) disappeared after 14 days, it was that the membership you referred got "delinked" from your affiliate account after 14 days, and you no longer got paid for any further sessions... which would be similar to a normal paysite not paying you for rebills, but still claiming they're doing revshare (50% of the signup is sharing, right???)

                                              Some of the messages posted by AWE reps a couple of years ago clearly show the contempt they have for the concept of an affiliate being paid a fair amount for referring an ongoing and potentially long term membership.

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                                              • helterskelter808
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Sep 2010
                                                • 3405

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by porno jew
                                                why do people think cookies don't get overridden? any tests or just speculation?
                                                Good question. I just tried websites promoting LJ and the cookie (REVS) was overwritten by the second site.

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                                                • helterskelter808
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Sep 2010
                                                  • 3405

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by rowan
                                                  If I remember correctly it wasn't that the cookie (for new sales) disappeared after 14 days, it was that the membership you referred got "delinked" from your affiliate account after 14 days, and you no longer got paid for any further sessions... which would be similar to a normal paysite not paying you for rebills, but still claiming they're doing revshare (50% of the signup is sharing, right???)
                                                  Yep, I stopped promoting them within a month or two of starting after I got a bunch of signups that just evaporated into nothing after a couple of weeks. Seemed extremely unlikely someone would sign up, buy multiple credits for a few days then just stop completely. I didn't know about the two week stuff at that point.

                                                  But for that and multiple other reasons I stopped promoting them and have never been able to understand why other people seem to love them so much. They even scrapped the $100 bonus years ago.

                                                  Originally posted by helterskelter808
                                                  I just tried websites promoting LJ and the cookie (REVS) was overwritten by the second site.
                                                  I guess I did misremember about that or maybe people complained but AWE didn't change it. But anyway an AWE cookie from Pornhub (for example) isn't overwritten; the only PSID in the cookies is from Pornhub.

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                                                  • VforVendetta
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                    • 2525

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by porno jew
                                                    why do people think cookies don't get overridden? any tests or just speculation?
                                                    You can verify this thing, it's not difficult....the PSID it's not overwritten, REVS or PPS doesn't change.

                                                    You must pay attention because the PSID cookie appear only in the second click on the pop-up.
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                                                    • Betty-AWE
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2011
                                                      • 150

                                                      #27
                                                      Dear All,

                                                      Our cookie system is quite simple and straightforward, as set out in our FAQ:

                                                      Lifetime+(20%) program: the new member is tied to your affiliate id on a database level.

                                                      Revshare (30%) program: member credit purchases are tracked by a (VERY GENEROUS) 14-day, non-rewritable cookie.

                                                      PPS ($40 and promotional $222): visitors get a 30-day, non-rewritable cookie.

                                                      Please keep in mind that with AWE you can promote how you choose!
                                                      If you are not satisfied with our cookie system, you can always try our Whitelabel 2.0 which offers domain-based tracking. No matter what cookie your member carries, every sale is credited on the Whitelabel site (except PPS members previously referred by you).

                                                      Should you have any questions about our system, you can check our FAQ or submit a support ticket on our website. You can also contact me on any of the below contact details or any of my colleagues.

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                                                      • VforVendetta
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2006
                                                        • 2525

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Betty-AWE
                                                        Lifetime+(20%) program: the new member is tied to your affiliate id on a database level.
                                                        so the lifetime cookie is writeble ? Can you explain me better how this work ?
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                                                        • RyuLion
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 32365

                                                          #29
                                                          Thanks for your reply Betty!

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                                                          • NewNick
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                                                            • Mar 2009
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                                                            #30
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                                                            • dirtwars
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Mar 2008
                                                              • 41

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by VforVendetta
                                                              so the lifetime cookie is writeble ? Can you explain me better how this work ?
                                                              You don't understand cookies. The lifetime is not re-writable.

                                                              I tested a shitload of adult cookies back when i cared. . . and i saw some really fucked up shit. I looked extensively at livejasmin cookies.

                                                              . . and what is written above by them is true.

                                                              I'm interested to see what people say about this.

                                                              Lots of pieces in their cookies but the ones to be concerned with are:

                                                              psid and waccid. Visit a site and examine that cookie. Then go to a new one.

                                                              you'll see the psid stays no matter how many other pages your visit. The waccid is the last entering cookie. I'm pretty sure that the sales cookie is the psid. . . It used to be a 30 or 45 day cookie about a year ago if i'm not mistaken, but they say now its 14 for REV and 30 for PPS

                                                              That means . . . once the REV cookie is dropped in the browser . . no matter where the surfer goes or what he does after (assuming he doesn't delete his cookies) for 14 days wherever the page is he buys from . . . the sale goes to the original cookie setter psid.

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                                                              • cooldude7
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2009
                                                                • 4306

                                                                #32
                                                                this is new for me., damn i missed this whole thread., so they pay to 1st cookie., few months back i asked this, here, who pays to 1st cookie., damn

                                                                nice to know they pays to 1st cookie....

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                                                                • VforVendetta
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                  • 2525

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by dirtwars
                                                                  You don't understand cookies. The lifetime is not re-writable.
                                                                  ? Betty says

                                                                  Lifetime+(20%) program: the new member is tied to your affiliate id on a database level.
                                                                  She doesn't speak about cookie for lifetime.

                                                                  If a person have the PPS/REVS cookie in the computer....and this person click on my link with a lifetime revshare, i'll earn money from his signup ? Or the lifetime cookie is writeble with a REVS/PSS cookie ?
                                                                  Last edited by VforVendetta; 11-14-2011, 10:47 AM.
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                                                                  • dirtwars
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Mar 2008
                                                                    • 41

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by VforVendetta
                                                                    ? Betty says



                                                                    She doesn't speak about cookie for lifetime.

                                                                    If a person have the PPS/REVS cookie in the computer....and this person click on my link with a lifetime revshare, i'll earn money from his signup ? Or the lifetime cookie is writeble with a REVS/PSS cookie ?
                                                                    I'll check it right now
                                                                    Last edited by dirtwars; 11-14-2011, 11:37 AM. Reason: now see your point. . . . let me check it

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                                                                    • dirtwars
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Mar 2008
                                                                      • 41

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by VforVendetta
                                                                      ? Betty says



                                                                      She doesn't speak about cookie for lifetime.

                                                                      If a person have the PPS/REVS cookie in the computer....and this person click on my link with a lifetime revshare, i'll earn money from his signup ? Or the lifetime cookie is writeble with a REVS/PSS cookie ?
                                                                      I just checked it by hand its what is to be expected. I'll answer your questions.

                                                                      "If a person have the PPS/REVS cookie in the computer....and this person click on my link with a lifetime revshare, i'll earn money from his signup ?" - NO.

                                                                      But that cookie in the computer only lasts 14 days. Bascially you want to be first in. If you promote jasmin by pm'n people off a tube site members list that already promotes jasmin. . don't expect any sales. Or say your a cookie stuffer and are targeting the user at the signin. . . again nope.

                                                                      Lifetime starts when someone signs up. When they sign up they have an account name, and whoever's cookie referred that account (your 14 day cookie, or anothers, or who ever happend to have their cookie active at that time) gets the lifetime payment.

                                                                      This shouldn't be confusing. . and believe me you wouldn't want it to be any other way if your legit.

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                                                                      • dirtwars
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Mar 2008
                                                                        • 41

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                        why do people think cookies don't get overridden? any tests or just speculation?
                                                                        I've tested a lot of adult sponsors. . . few overwrite the cookie.

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                                                                        • Betty-AWE
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2011
                                                                          • 150

                                                                          #37
                                                                          The Lifetime+ cookie works the same as the Revshare cookie: 14-day, non-rewritable.

                                                                          After the original cookie expires (14-days), a new cookie can be set with a new PSID.

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                                                                          • FreeHugeMovies
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                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                            • 14141

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Isn't this the company that changed their referrals and or changed their %?

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