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  • DarkJedi
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    • Feb 2001
    • 28301
    #1

    Matt Cutts: "Only the links Google trusts count."

    Q. Everyone says I need more links. How do links improve the quality of the site? I don’t want to play this game and I don’t want to do this.

    A: What matters is bottom line. Links are a part of search – they represent online reputation. Although there are many tools that report links, none of the tools can tell you which links are trusted by Google (not even Google’s tools).

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    • 2intense
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      • Dec 2009
      • 12493
      #2
      OMG genius
      Originally posted by DarkJedi
      Q. Everyone says I need more links. How do links improve the quality of the site? I don?t want to play this game and I don?t want to do this.

      A: What matters is bottom line. Links are a part of search ? they represent online reputation. Although there are many tools that report links, none of the tools can tell you which links are trusted by Google (not even Google?s tools).

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        • DarkJedi
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          • Feb 2001
          • 28301
          #3
          Originally posted by 2intense
          OMG genius
          Yeah imagine that. No one's gonna buy your piece of shit links anymore.

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            • 2intense
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2009
              • 12493
              #4
              pls tell us something we don't know already.
              Originally posted by DarkJedi
              Q. Everyone says I need more links. How do links improve the quality of the site? I don?t want to play this game and I don?t want to do this.

              A: What matters is bottom line. Links are a part of search ? they represent online reputation. Although there are many tools that report links, none of the tools can tell you which links are trusted by Google (not even Google?s tools).

              http://www.searchenginejournal.com/q...singhal/36025/
              Originally posted by DarkJedi
              Yeah imagine that. No one's gonna buy your piece of shit links anymore.
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                • seeandsee
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                  • Mar 2006
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                  #5
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                    • Relentless
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                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5697
                      #6
                      There is no way Matt Cutts (whose salary is paid by Google) might possibly spread misinformation about SEO to prevent some people from trying to game their system.



                      /sarcasm


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                          #7
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                            • Jel
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 6904
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Relentless
                              There is no way Matt Cutts (whose salary is paid by Google) might possibly spread misinformation about SEO to prevent some people from trying to game their system.



                              /sarcasm
                              Indeed. You might as well listen to 'advice' from your dog.

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                                • ~Ray
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                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 18361
                                  #9
                                  see sig for serve yourself links that google likes just fine.

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                                    • jimmycooper
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                                      • May 2010
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Relentless
                                      There is no way Matt Cutts (whose salary is paid by Google) might possibly spread misinformation about SEO to prevent some people from trying to game their system.



                                      /sarcasm
                                      /deluded paranoia

                                      Here are the academic credentials of key players on the Google search team.

                                      Vice President and Google Fellow - Ph.D. in computer science from UC Berkeley
                                      Director of Product Management, Search - Bachelor's and master's degrees in aerospace engineering from MIT and an MBA from Harvard Business School.
                                      Engineering Director - PhD in computer science from the University of Michigan, undergrad at Carnegie Mellon University
                                      Google Fellow - Undergraduate degree in India from IIT, Roorkee, a MS from the University of Minnesota and a Ph.D. from Cornell University, all in Computer Science. At Cornell, he studied Information Retrieval with the late Gerard Salton, one of the founders of the field. Has co-authored more than thirty scientific papers and numerous patents.
                                      Matt Cutts - Prior to joining Google in 2000, Matt worked on his Ph.D. in computer graphics at University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. He has a master?s degree from UNC-Chapel Hill, and bachelor?s degrees in both mathematics and computer science from the University of Kentucky.

                                      http://www.google.com/insidesearch/press.html

                                      Keep in mind that those are just the key players. The entire team is made up of people with advanced degrees in fields such as computer science, computer engineering, and math from schools like MIT, Caltech, University Of Texas, Stanford, and other Ivy League caliber institutions who anticipate that there will inevitably always be people trying to 'game their system' regardless of what they publicly disclose and they therefore have absolutely no reason whatsoever to lie or mislead anyone. Especially when they can just re-adjust the system. Everything I've ever heard Matt Cutts say has been 100% on the money.

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                                        • Dirty F
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                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 59204
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                          Yeah imagine that. No one's gonna buy your piece of shit links anymore.

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                                            • blackmonsters
                                              Making PHP work
                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 20960
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Relentless
                                              There is no way Matt Cutts (whose salary is paid by Google) might possibly spread misinformation about SEO to prevent some people from trying to game their system.



                                              /sarcasm
                                              Conspiracy theorize much?

                                              Google doesn't have to spread misinformation; they have a delete button.
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                                                • Relentless
                                                  www.EngineFood.com
                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 5697
                                                  #13
                                                  I've done well on a number of sites doing pretty much the opposite of what Matt Cutts says works or doesn't work. If following his 'advice' is making you money I am surprised to hear it, but also glad you are doing well.


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                                                    • porno jew
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                      • 10166
                                                      #14
                                                      thread over head. reply with another wall of text.

                                                      Originally posted by jimmycooper
                                                      /deluded paranoia

                                                      Here are the academic credentials of key players on the Google search team.

                                                      Vice President and Google Fellow - Ph.D. in computer science from UC Berkeley
                                                      Director of Product Management, Search - Bachelor's and master's degrees in aerospace engineering from MIT and an MBA from Harvard Business School.
                                                      Engineering Director - PhD in computer science from the University of Michigan, undergrad at Carnegie Mellon University
                                                      Google Fellow - Undergraduate degree in India from IIT, Roorkee, a MS from the University of Minnesota and a Ph.D. from Cornell University, all in Computer Science. At Cornell, he studied Information Retrieval with the late Gerard Salton, one of the founders of the field. Has co-authored more than thirty scientific papers and numerous patents.
                                                      Matt Cutts - Prior to joining Google in 2000, Matt worked on his Ph.D. in computer graphics at University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. He has a master?s degree from UNC-Chapel Hill, and bachelor?s degrees in both mathematics and computer science from the University of Kentucky.

                                                      http://www.google.com/insidesearch/press.html

                                                      Keep in mind that those are just the key players. The entire team is made up of people with advanced degrees in fields such as computer science, computer engineering, and math from schools like MIT, Caltech, University Of Texas, Stanford, and other Ivy League caliber institutions who anticipate that there will inevitably always be people trying to 'game their system' regardless of what they publicly disclose and they therefore have absolutely no reason whatsoever to lie or mislead anyone. Especially when they can just re-adjust the system. Everything I've ever heard Matt Cutts say has been 100% on the money.

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                                                        • Black All Through
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                                                          • Oct 2010
                                                          • 2078
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Relentless
                                                          I've done well on a number of sites doing pretty much the opposite of what Matt Cutts says works or doesn't work. If following his 'advice' is making you money I am surprised to hear it, but also glad you are doing well.

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                                                            • AmeliaG
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                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                              • 10662
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by jimmycooper
                                                              /deluded paranoia

                                                              Here are the academic credentials of key players on the Google search team.

                                                              Vice President and Google Fellow - Ph.D. in computer science from UC Berkeley
                                                              Director of Product Management, Search - Bachelor's and master's degrees in aerospace engineering from MIT and an MBA from Harvard Business School.
                                                              Engineering Director - PhD in computer science from the University of Michigan, undergrad at Carnegie Mellon University
                                                              Google Fellow - Undergraduate degree in India from IIT, Roorkee, a MS from the University of Minnesota and a Ph.D. from Cornell University, all in Computer Science. At Cornell, he studied Information Retrieval with the late Gerard Salton, one of the founders of the field. Has co-authored more than thirty scientific papers and numerous patents.
                                                              Matt Cutts - Prior to joining Google in 2000, Matt worked on his Ph.D. in computer graphics at University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. He has a master?s degree from UNC-Chapel Hill, and bachelor?s degrees in both mathematics and computer science from the University of Kentucky.

                                                              http://www.google.com/insidesearch/press.html

                                                              Keep in mind that those are just the key players. The entire team is made up of people with advanced degrees in fields such as computer science, computer engineering, and math from schools like MIT, Caltech, University Of Texas, Stanford, and other Ivy League caliber institutions who anticipate that there will inevitably always be people trying to 'game their system' regardless of what they publicly disclose and they therefore have absolutely no reason whatsoever to lie or mislead anyone. Especially when they can just re-adjust the system. Everything I've ever heard Matt Cutts say has been 100% on the money.

                                                              First of all, if disinformation would obviously be effective, what makes you think a team of bright people would not think of the effective methodology?

                                                              Secondly, while I'm sure Matt Cutts is very bright, I had no idea that UNC is now considered Ivy League caliber. Go Tarheels. Ditto University of Texas. Those schools graduate some fine students, but it is as silly to equate them with MIT, Stanford, and "other Ivy League caliber institutions" as to suggest that smart people would not do the smart thing because they are smart.
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                                                                • Pete Goodman
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                                                                  • Nov 2011
                                                                  • 99
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                  Yeah imagine that. No one's gonna buy your piece of shit links anymore.

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                                                                    • porno jew
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                                      • 10166
                                                                      #18
                                                                      yeah sure seems like they are being honest and not evading anything with this answer.

                                                                      When we search for appliances, why do we only get Sears and other major stores?

                                                                      Cutts: The web is one of the only places where the small business can move faster than the big guys. The big companies are often big for reason and as a result they can outrank other pages. However, the search engine does give the small business a chance Google Webmaster Tools is somewhat of an equalizer though and small businesses should use this ? i.e. big businesses are more likely to use text in images/flash and small businesses will know better. Also, small businesses should concentrate on the small niche.

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                                                                        • blackmonsters
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                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 20960
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Relentless
                                                                          I've done well on a number of sites doing pretty much the opposite of what Matt Cutts says works or doesn't work. If following his 'advice' is making you money I am surprised to hear it, but also glad you are doing well.
                                                                          Can you back up what you said with links to these sites?

                                                                          You are selling SEO in your sig, so if I apply your logic of "Matt Cutts and misinformation"
                                                                          to your sig then...........????

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                                                                            • blackmonsters
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                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 20960
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                                              First of all, if disinformation would obviously be effective, what makes you think a team of bright people would not think of the effective methodology?

                                                                              Secondly, while I'm sure Matt Cutts is very bright, I had no idea that UNC is now considered Ivy League caliber. Go Tarheels. Ditto University of Texas. Those schools graduate some fine students, but it is as silly to equate them with MIT, Stanford, and "other Ivy League caliber institutions" as to suggest that smart people would not do the smart thing because they are smart.
                                                                              If what you just said made any sense to me, I'd be really scared.

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                                                                                • porno jew
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                                  • 10166
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                  Can you back up what you said with links to these sites?

                                                                                  You are selling SEO in your sig, so if I apply your logic of "Matt Cutts and misinformation"
                                                                                  to your sig then...........????

                                                                                  ...
                                                                                  why would he out his sites and techniques?

                                                                                  no wonder you can't even get hired at labor ready.

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                                                                                    • blackmonsters
                                                                                      Making PHP work
                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                      • 20960
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                      why would he out his sites and techniques?

                                                                                      no wonder you can't even get hired at labor ready.
                                                                                      Fuck labor ready, you can't get hired on this board.



                                                                                      PS : As if anybody looking for SEO secrects can't see who comes up first on google and then view the source.
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                                                                                        • stocktrader23
                                                                                          Let's do some business.
                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 18781
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by 2intense
                                                                                          pls tell us something we don't know already.



                                                                                          Laugh away but if you sell links Google already knows about it. Link buying is pretty fucking worthless aside from the direct traffic.


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                                                                                            • Jel
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                                                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                                                              • 6904
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                              yeah sure seems like they are being honest and not evading anything with this answer.

                                                                                              When we search for appliances, why do we only get Sears and other major stores?

                                                                                              Cutts: The web is one of the only places where the small business can move faster than the big guys. The big companies are often big for reason and as a result they can outrank other pages. However, the search engine does give the small business a chance Google Webmaster Tools is somewhat of an equalizer though and small businesses should use this ? i.e. big businesses are more likely to use text in images/flash and small businesses will know better. Also, small businesses should concentrate on the small niche.
                                                                                              I think naming it 'webmaster tools' is an inside joke.

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                                                                                                • porno jew
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                                                  • 10166
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                                                  Laugh away but if you sell links Google already knows about it. Link buying is pretty fucking worthless aside from the direct traffic.
                                                                                                  yeah that's why the sites that dominate all the top porn keywords buy shitloads of links every day.

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                                                                                                    • blackmonsters
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                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                      • 20960
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                      yeah that's why the sites that dominate all the top porn keywords buy shitloads of links every day.
                                                                                                      Google "black monster cock".

                                                                                                      Maybe I get different results than you.
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                                                                                                        • stocktrader23
                                                                                                          Let's do some business.
                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                          • 18781
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                          yeah that's why the sites that dominate all the top porn keywords buy shitloads of links every day.
                                                                                                          They just ignore the bullshit links. Those same top sites also have a pile of legitimate links pointing to them naturally. Also, if you buy popups on PornHub it's not like there is a website advertising that PornHub is selling popups. Google knows exactly what most people are doing and adjusts accordingly. You don't think there are obvious signs that someone is selling links? Google has all the data they need to discount your shit and not let you know a damn thing.


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                                                                                                            • porno jew
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                                                                              • 10166
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                                                              They just ignore the bullshit links. Those same top sites also have a pile of legitimate links pointing to them naturally. Also, if you buy popups on PornHub it's not like there is a website advertising that PornHub is selling popups. Google knows exactly what most people are doing and adjusts accordingly. You don't think there are obvious signs that someone is selling links? Google has all the data they need to discount your shit and not let you know a damn thing.
                                                                                                              clueless as usual ....

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                                                                                                                • stocktrader23
                                                                                                                  Let's do some business.
                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                  • 18781
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                                  clueless as usual ....
                                                                                                                  Yes porno jew, your ignorant ass is smarter than Google. They have no interest in who links to a website or why and are complete noobs on the topic.


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                                                                                                                  "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                                                                                                                    • Jel
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                      • 6904
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                      Google "black monster cock".

                                                                                                                      Maybe I get different results than you.
                                                                                                                      broad 60.5k per month
                                                                                                                      exact 3.6k per month

                                                                                                                      Hardly a top porn keyphrase.

                                                                                                                      Anyway, 6 tubes in the first 10 results.

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                                                                                                                        • porno jew
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                                                                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                          • 10166
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                          Google "black monster cock".

                                                                                                                          Maybe I get different results than you.
                                                                                                                          black monster cock: 720 local monthly searches a month.

                                                                                                                          top adult keyword example fail.

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                                                                                                                            • porno jew
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                                                                                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                              • 10166
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                                                                              Yes porno jew, your ignorant ass is smarter than Google. They have no interest in who links to a website or why and are complete noobs on the topic.
                                                                                                                              think you should stick to your dollar a referral website. you seem better at that.

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                                                                                                                                • stocktrader23
                                                                                                                                  Let's do some business.
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 18781
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                                                  think you should stick to your dollar a referral website. you seem better at that.
                                                                                                                                  I'm good at everything I do, thanks for noticing.


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                                                                                                                                    • blackmonsters
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                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 20960
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                                      broad 60.5k per month
                                                                                                                                      exact 3.6k per month

                                                                                                                                      Hardly a top porn keyphrase.

                                                                                                                                      Anyway, 6 tubes in the first 10 results.
                                                                                                                                      Who came up in the number one spot for you?
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                                                                                                                                        • porno jew
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                          Who came up in the number one spot for you?
                                                                                                                                          you i assume, but no one searches for that phrase so thus no one spends much effort, if any all, to try and rank for that.

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                                                                                                                                            • Jel
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                                                                                                                                              • 6904
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                              Who came up in the number one spot for you?
                                                                                                                                              blackmonsters.com

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                                                                                                                                                • blackmonsters
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                                                  blackmonsters.com
                                                                                                                                                  Yep, with no backlinks and PR0.


                                                                                                                                                  Maybe if I buy a lot of back links I will come up number -1.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Jel
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                      Yep, with no backlinks and PR0.
                                                                                                                                                      painful. Anyway, I assume you have an inkling why you are ranking top though, and if it's making you money, then good luck to you, that's the aim of the game

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                                                                                                                                                        • AmeliaG
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                          If what you just said made any sense to me, I'd be really scared.


                                                                                                                                                          What are you confused by and what are you scared of?
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                                                                                                                                                            • porno jew
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                                                              painful. Anyway, I assume you have an inkling why you are ranking top though, and if it's making you money, then good luck to you, that's the aim of the game
                                                                                                                                                              he is ranking because of the keywords in the domain and because it is a zero competition and search volume phrase.

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                                                                                                                                                                • blackmonsters
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                                                                  painful. Anyway, I assume you have an inkling why you are ranking top though, and if it's making you money, then good luck to you, that's the aim of the game
                                                                                                                                                                  The only inkling I have is that I spent 10 years NOT "toying" with google's results and I
                                                                                                                                                                  think that is what Matt Cutts is referring to.

                                                                                                                                                                  That's why I argue that SEO people should do what he says because this is what they
                                                                                                                                                                  are going to look at when they decide to push someone down in results.

                                                                                                                                                                  I don't think I moved up in rank, I think other people moved themselves down!
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                                                                                                                                                                    • blackmonsters
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                                                                                      he is ranking because of the keywords in the domain and because it is a zero competition and search volume phrase.
                                                                                                                                                                      Google : "black monster"

                                                                                                                                                                      Search :
                                                                                                                                                                      About 45,300,000 results (0.14 seconds)

                                                                                                                                                                      45 million results and there is no competition?

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                                                                                                                                                                        • blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                                          Making PHP work
                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 20960
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          The only thing holding my site back is that I don't steal content.

                                                                                                                                                                          If I had $50k to buy content my site would explode with traffic.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • porno jew
                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                                                              • 10166
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              try and find a seo tutorial on how to use a keyword tool and interpret results. maybe there is one on youtube.

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                                              Google : "black monster"

                                                                                                                                                                              Search :
                                                                                                                                                                              About 45,300,000 results (0.14 seconds)

                                                                                                                                                                              45 million results and there is no competition?

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Jel
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 6904
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                                                                                                  he is ranking because of the keywords in the domain and because it is a zero competition and search volume phrase.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Aged site, 208k internal pages isn't hurting either, add in the fact that as you say people aren't going all out to nail it with that search volume and yup.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • porno jew
                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 10166
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                                                      Google : "black monster"

                                                                                                                                                                                      Search :
                                                                                                                                                                                      About 45,300,000 results (0.14 seconds)

                                                                                                                                                                                      45 million results and there is no competition?

                                                                                                                                                                                      who cares if there is a 100 billion pages that turn up for a search. no one looks for those phrases and why no site / seo bothers targeting and building links for them.

                                                                                                                                                                                      that is why you rank with no backlinks. (well you have a couple).

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jel
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 6904
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                                                          The only inkling I have is that I spent 10 years NOT "toying" with google's results and I
                                                                                                                                                                                          think that is what Matt Cutts is referring to.

                                                                                                                                                                                          That's why I argue that SEO people should do what he says because this is what they
                                                                                                                                                                                          are going to look at when they decide to push someone down in results.

                                                                                                                                                                                          I don't think I moved up in rank, I think other people moved themselves down!
                                                                                                                                                                                          matt cutts talks shit when not behind closed doors, and spreads disinformation like a master. I wouldn't exactly say do the opposite of what he says, but more like pay no attention to what he puts out there.

                                                                                                                                                                                          You rank for the reasons stated, the number of results returned doesn't mean people are competing for that phrase, so it's 'easier' (please note the easier, not 'easy') to get there for that particular phrase.

                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm not knocking you for it, far from it, you still need to put the work in, but seriously, ignore matt cutts. Do your own testing, and go with what works for you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Dubya
                                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 1152
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                                                                                                                              Yeah imagine that. No one's gonna buy your piece of shit links anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • bean-aid
                                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2011
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 16493
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                                                                                                  broad 60.5k per month
                                                                                                                                                                                                  exact 3.6k per month

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hardly a top porn keyphrase.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Anyway, 6 tubes in the first 10 results.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  What service do you use to estimate search numbers?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • jimmycooper
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 4016
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                                                                                                                                                                      First of all, if disinformation would obviously be effective, what makes you think a team of bright people would not think of the effective methodology?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Secondly, while I'm sure Matt Cutts is very bright, I had no idea that UNC is now considered Ivy League caliber. Go Tarheels. Ditto University of Texas. Those schools graduate some fine students, but it is as silly to equate them with MIT, Stanford, and "other Ivy League caliber institutions" as to suggest that smart people would not do the smart thing because they are smart.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Unless you buy in to the conspiracy kook crap, I don't think disinformation should be considered as an effective strategy because there are no benefits to doing so.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Regarding the colleges, I think that Harvard, Yale, and Princeton (along with non-Ivy League Stanford) are pretty much in their own league. Same with MIT. After that I think you have to factor in specific programs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Here are some University Of Texas national rankings.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      #9 in Computer Engineering
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #6 in Overall Business Undergrad
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #1 in Accounting
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #9 in Entrepreneurship
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #6 in Finance
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #6 in Management
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #4 in MIS

                                                                                                                                                                                                      http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...kings/business
                                                                                                                                                                                                      http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...gs/engineering

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Th undergraduate advertising program, which is what I did, is also widely regarded to be the best in the country.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      http://advertising.utexas.edu/about

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'd take any of the above Texas degrees over pretty much any degree from a lesser Ivy League school like Brown. Big public schools get slammed in the overall rankings because they usually have a large # of students in less competitive liberal arts programs with poor student/teacher ratios and the fact that state imposed mandatory admissions laws generally lead to a high dropout rate. I think the short list of top tier public schools would include Texas, Michigan, Illinois, Berkeley, and UNC. I don't know what the high ranking programs are at any of them aside from Texas, but along with non-Ivy League private schools like NYU, University Of Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, and a few others, I think certain programs at each could be seen as the equivalent or better than a general liberal arts degree at Brown. Easily.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by jimmycooper; 11-12-2011, 12:52 PM.

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