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DS250 runs torrent sites
Or so he says.. But he's not a "hypocrite" because he talks openly about it!Comment
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I love the "FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADAPT" comments. Not once has any of the people who have made these statements had a clue on how to adapt, but it sounds sexy to say it.
Its like a fish out of water, these guys would yell " FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADAPT!" STOP FLOPPING AROUND AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO LIVE WITHOUT WATER! "
The proverbial people who like to make the " like duh " comments but have no solution to the problem. There has not been a solution to this problem, ever, in over 10 years. But come on, stop bitching, you can do it! the answer is simple, " adapt". fucking idiots.Last edited by will76; 08-24-2007, 05:43 PM.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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BTW, the only "adapting" i see is to scrap the membership website model for pics and video sites and only charging for cams and dating.
So this would be death for a lot of people here. One way or the other... think about. All of the companies that are not into cams and dating either 1. die (go out of business, not much adapting that way). or 2. run dating and cams sites which would saturate the market and pretty much no one would make money. That sounds like a great adapting plan too. So any of the " just adapt" people have any suggestions of their own ??ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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if a site gave away its entire members area then what is the point of paying for it.Originally posted by pornopete
Live Cams and Dating can't be stolen and then distributed for free. Those things will never be affected by torrents.
If all of the current pics and vids sponsors started dating and cam sites the market would be more than saturated and cost them all money because of it.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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LOL and then upsell your porn site
fucking brillant.
a bunch of big sponsors should get together and start 1 huge dating site, get lots of publicity for it, and then in the inside upsell your porn site. Give them a cheap membership option or some type of 24 hour no charge preview that converts to $20 a month for your porn site. People who go to the dating sites looking to get laid, they don't go out every night, they will resort to porn to get off. It wouldn't convert 1:100 but it would still result in sales. You wouldn't be stealing from anyone, and you would be fighting them at their own game, kind of.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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a centralized database with an api for sites to hook into. that way the profiles are there but the look and advertising can be controlled by whoever owns the the FREE site.LOL and then upsell your porn site fucking brillant.
a bunch of big sponsors should get together and start 1 huge dating site, get lots of publicity for it, and then in the inside upsell your porn site. Give them a cheap membership option or some type of 24 hour no charge preview that converts to $20 a month for your porn site. People who go to the dating sites looking to get laid, they don't go out every night, they will resort to porn to get off. It wouldn't convert 1:100 but it would still result in sales. You wouldn't be stealing from anyone, and you would be fighting them at their own game, kind of.Comment
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bingo.
Think about it, AFF is popular because it is everywhere and has been around forever. I have never had anyone have anything good to say about using it, most people say it is full of fake profiles. If you could provide a better service for free, and it got exposure.... it definetly could put a dent in the dating sites.
Not that this is a solution to Piracy... but maybe they would be more willing to stop funding torent sites if the porn sites had more leverage.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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get out the message to surfers that DATING should be FREE tooComment
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what if the torrent sites had their own centralized free dating site that they could send to. now they're offering free porn and free dating. it would be interesting to see how they would monetize i bet they would though.
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Everything you mention will come with time......Comment
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datingtorrent.com is available btw.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Better than all that: let's get some end user type to log into AFF and steal all the profiles, including contact info, pictures... then we can let that "user" add them to the new database. Lars won't have an issue with that!
Free dating. Fucking eh! The best web2.0 fucksite possible.Comment
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Hmmmmm.....free dating sites with pirated profiles,
now you're talking true adapting. This web 2.0 stuff
might just not be so bad after all. It certainly sounds like the way these companies are suggesting it is done.
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On another note, I suppose AFF would be upset when sales of memberships drop off because of all the free dating sites. Oh well......they can always adapt.
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that is a decent size free dating site.
what we talking about here is to use the same data base by different sponsors so they can promote their membership sites on their version of the dating site.
POF uses google to make money, and i noticed an "adult dating" link that goes to aff.
If a bunch of sponsors got together, each had their own custom site using the same data base, the dating site could get very popular with that many big sponsors pushing it. Like i said it might not convert good but I do believe you would make some upsells to your porn sites.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Spamming p2p networks with ads is a good way to filter down the content and make $$ off it... tons of people started advertising via p2p networks and now its hard to find any full movies or porn on them because it's so full of ads and crap
Now we just need some company to start a torrent spamming service to upload 800 meg 20 second teasers to the torrent sites and post "works great, thanks!" comments from tons of names, while posting "FAKE!!" on on the real ones and hitting the "report as a fake link" to have them removed.
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Spamming p2p networks with ads is a good way to filter down the content and make $$ off it... tons of people started advertising via p2p networks and now its hard to find any full movies or porn on them because it's so full of ads and crap Now we just need some company to start a torrent spamming service to upload 800 meg 20 second teasers to the torrent sites and post "works great, thanks!" comments from tons of names, while posting "FAKE!!" on on the real ones and hitting the "report as a fake link" to have them removed.
Its been a while since I poked around p2p but last i checked most movies you downloaded had drm boxes pop up with an ad in them and you never got to see a movie. The movies that were on there seemed like most were short clips. At least from what I noticed. Unlike the 35 min clips on torrent sites.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Why do you insult me and call me a liar? Just because I don't want to tell you how to adapt doesn't mean I don't know how to do it or have done it already.
The adult industry give out tons of free content and at the same time offer overpriced crappy services and treat the surfers like shit, you didn't think there would be consequences?
I'm sending hundreds of new members to membership sites every day, I'm not supporting these sites or what they do, but I don't see any point in fighting lost causes. The costs for fighting these guys will by far outweigh any increased sales, sure you can bring a couple of sites down, but they will find new ways.
If that is the only way you think we can adapt then maybe you should think about it a little more. As for people being unable to adapt, that will only leave more room for those who can.Alea iacta estComment
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Was a little slow on edit, should say: I'm not supporting torrent sitesI'm sending hundreds of new members to membership sites every day, I'm not supporting these sites or what they do, but I don't see any point in fighting lost causes.
Sounded like I wasn't supporting membership sites by sending them members lolLast edited by milambur; 08-25-2007, 02:09 AM.Alea iacta estComment
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yeah, and you can still find a few sites like that here and there. Good luck finding a girl on them, 95% men, and the few women willing to show for free, in most cases, do so because no one would pay to see them.Originally posted by pornopete
It's just a fact, the vast majority of ((decent looking)) women will not perform on webcam for free. If you find a site that does please let me know
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another way would be to scrap porn membership sites (pics and vids) and just own cams and dating. But I wouldn't call that adapting.
p2pads didn't adapt since they were never threatened in the first place. They are traffic brokers, they find a new source to sell traffic, most of which is to dating and cams sites.
Like Jace (and everyone else) I have yet to see a content producer or sponsor owner (pics and vids sites) find a way to "adapt" and make money from torrents instead of losing money from them.
But everyone says " just adapt" so it must be easy since everyone says this, and the people losing money to torrents must be stupid since they haven't been able to figure this out yet.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Some people "adapt" to being heroin addicts or meth heads, but that doesn't mean it is a good situation to be in. The porn industry is in need of an intervention.Comment
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Adapt could also mean "walking away" and not looking back
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