My apology to SonOfSam . . . and a pic

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Afghanistan no and nothing change yet in my opinion.
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Iraq Yes.
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btw. Rashid Dostum was Allied of US in the Afghanstan war and He is an Uzbek Turk.., but even though this, what i can say is US just tryed to clean it's own shit,
but toilet paper didn't work enough, Taleban is rizing again, if You got news from Afghanstan.

Afghanistan no and nothing change yet in my opinion.
 
Iraq Yes.

btw. Rashid Dostum was Allied of US in the Afghanstan war and He is an Uzbek Turk.., but even though this, what i can say is US just tryed to clean it's own shit,
but toilet paper didn't work enough, Taleban is rizing again if You got news from Afghanstan.

Did I miss someone arguing about Afghanistan?

Did sonofscam get sent to afghanistan?

Well, your reasoning and numbers seem to be very one sides especially when you're sizing up America against the Islamic world. Have you run the numbers for people dead in America's wars and not just the wars the had a presence in but the ones where their roles were primarily behind the scenes?

I am in no way condoning terrorism, and as an Arab, if fact in huge part because I am an Arab, I find it distasteful and hugely offensive that my people would visit these kind of atrocities upon the world, whether in their own lands or outside of it.

Having said that, let's take a look at a few reasons why the Muslim world would come about to hate the West; what ignites and fans the flames of this anger?

Arabs and Muslims have long wanted to create an "Islamic Civilization" ... something born of its own right. The Western, and in particular, American, subjugation of that abmition by dividing the Arab world by way support of dictators is one reason for the animosity.

America has a solid history of dividing and fragmenting the Arab/Islamic world simply by virtue of the rulers it supports.

The US has perverted attempts to democratize and the Muslims see them as hypocrits and nothing more than playground bullies. Preaching freedom and democracy while preventing Arabs from enjoying these same freedoms while exploiting their wealth is not the best way to make friends and influence people.

Last but not least, we have Palestine. The agonizing thorn is the side of the Islamic world.

These are the dark and gloomy reasons but by no means the only reasons for the Arab/Islamic world hates America. These same reasons are why some European countries hate America.

A lot of the rulers supported by america have introduced Arab people to autocratic, human rights-abusing regimes. Being stripped of freedom to express themselves many Muslims have sought conspiracy theories as an viable alternative to explain the problems of the universe.

They look to men like Bin Laden to deliver them from what they see as their opression by the all mighty, all controlling, American powerhouse that's behind the scenes.

The likes of Bin Ladin focus their attention on the poor and unschooled, the people they know are suffering. The paint glossy pictures and make Islam the kind of revoluntionary antidote these people seek. The kind of Islam that will solve all their problems. It won't surprise you to know that this very same message was first preached by Ayatollah Khomeini. Two people, both formerly in bed with the US, now both having the wrath of the US upon them ... does anyone else see a trend here?

Let sleeping dogs lie is one of those quality sayings and one that holds much truth. The Muslims that are instigating acts of terror against the US are the very same Muslims that the US was once very comfortable to get into bed with. As Americans, as people who enjoy more freedom than those less fortunate in the Middle East, do you not realize that as a people, as a region, as a religion, they just want to be left to their own devices?

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Well look who it is.. if it isn't baddogs boyfriend..

how ya doin cdsmith... enjoying the weather in your thong you like to wear, you creepy old fuck..

you know what's funny? How you get no pussy

I was thinking about that when i saw your post... and how you used to always talk about not having a girlfriend for over 15 years etc etc...

it must suck being a loser who cant get any ass cause you're ugly old and a loser

it's all good though... come to van and i'll get you a hooker so you can lose your virginity you ugly idiot

Wow, this thread got weird.

Excuse me sir. This thread is for people who have opinions.




(btw.. if i didn't already call you on it.. you would probably come back and be like, my opinion is that you're an asshole sonofsam blah blah blah blah)

i go back reading.. and this is what i find...

1) The rule of the Visigoths ended in A. D. 711 when the Moors invaded Spain.

2) The fractious Moor teriroires were eventually destroyed by the Almoravids (1056-1147

3) All together there were six Crusades in a period of 176 years. The Crusades lasted from 1095 until 1271 - to reclaim the Holy Lands.

Meaning.. right around the complte removal of Islam from Europe, the Church began its first crusade to take back the holy lands - right after Jerusalem. Other than in Spain, Muslims were driven out of Europe by the middle of the 8th century. The European church used the Muslim conquering of the "Holy City", Jerusalem as justification & motivation to start the crusades.

Furthermore...

Casualty estimates:

Total deaths during the Crusades (1096-1270) are estimated at about 1.5 million. Many of the deaths are attributed to starvation and disease.


in comparrison to Genocide committed in the name of Allah:

3,000,000 Bangladeshi Hindus Killed during the Pakistan-Bangladesh war in 1971.
From 1894 to 1896 Abdul Hamid, Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, killed 150,000 Armenian Christians.
In India, Sikh Guru Tegh Bahadur along with his disciples was burned to death by the Moghul ruler Aurangzeb in 1675.
Another Sikh, Bhai Mati Das was sawn into right and left halves while he was still alive.
In July 1974, 4,000 Christians living in Cyprus were killed by Fahri Koroturk, president of Turkey and his Islamic army.
From 1843 to 1846 10,000 Assyrian Christians including women and children were massacred by the Muslims.
From 1915 to 1918 750,000 Assyrians were killed in the name of Islamic Jihad.
In 1933 thousands of Assyrian villagers were murdered by the Iraqi soldiers in Northern Iraq.
Since 1990 more than 10,000 Kashmiri Hindus have been brutally murdered by Islamic fundamentalists.
Over 280,000 Ugandans killed during the reign of Idi Amin from 1971 to 1979.
Over 30,000 Mauritanians have been killed by the Islamic dictators since 1960.
In 1980, 20,000 Syrians were murdered under the rule of Hafez Al-Assad, President of Syria.
Since 1992 120,000 Algerians have been murdered by the Islamic fundamentalist army.
2974 people died as an immediate result of the attacks of 9/11.

Thats 4,376,974 + people - MOSTLY CIVILIANS!

Whiplashdug: stfu.

(Please see last line of post 140 in this thread)

It wasn't a personal attack. I'm just letting you know nobody gives a fuck what you are talking about. Alright... so stfu and stop spewing your propaganda bullshit.

SONOFSAM... im going to ask the Christians I know to pray for your poor tortured soul. I see from your recent posts - that you need all the help you can get.

Thanks bro, and while you're at it.. you and your christian friends can go fuck yourselves

Are you retardeded?

The number of civilians that died in the Bangladesh War is not accurately known. There is a great disparity in the casualty figures put forth by Pakistan on one hand (26,000, as reported in the Hamoodur Rahman Commission[28]) and India and Bangladesh on the other hand. (From 1972 to 1975 the first post-war prime minister of Bangladesh, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, claimed on several occasions that at least three million died).[29] The international media and reference books in English have also have published figures which vary greatly: varying from 5,000?35,000 in Dhaka, and 200,000?3,000,000 for Bangladesh as a whole.[3][30] It is believed in certain quarters that the figure of three million has its origins in comments made by Yahya Khan to the journalist Robert Payne on February 22, 1971, "Kill three million of them, and the rest will eat out of our hands".[31][32]

The Office of the Historian of the United States State Department held a two-day conference in late June 2005 on U.S. policy in South Asia between 1961 and 1972. The State Department invited international scholars to express their views on declassified documents recently published in the Foreign Relations of the United States series. According to a newspaper report published in both Pakistani and Bangladeshi newspapers, Bangladeshi speakers at the conference stated that the official Bangladeshi figure of civilian deaths was close to 300,000, which was wrongly translated from Bengali into English as three million. Ambassador Shamsher M. Chowdhury acknowledged that Bangladesh alone cannot correct this mistake and suggested Pakistan and Bangladesh should form a joint commission to investigate the 1971 disaster and prepare a report. "Almost all scholars agreed that the real figure was somewhere between 26,000, as reported by the Hamoodur Rahman Commission, and not three million, the official figure put forward by Bangladesh and India."[33][34][35]

In 1997 R. J. Rummel published a book which is available on the web called Statistics of Democide: Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1900, In Chapter 8 called Statistics Of Pakistan's Democide - Estimates, Calculations, And Sources he states:

In East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) [General Agha Mohammed Yahya Khan and his top generals] also planned to murder its Bengali intellectual, cultural, and political elite. They also planned to indiscriminately murder hundreds of thousands of its Hindus and drive the rest into India. And they planned to destroy its economic base to insure that it would be subordinate to West Pakistan for at least a generation to come. This despicable and cutthroat plan was outright genocide.[36]

Rummel goes on to collate what he considers the most credible estimates published by others into what he calls democide. He writes that "Consolidating both ranges, I give a final estimate of Pakistan's democide to be 300,000 to 3,000,000, or a prudent 1,500,000."

hahahaha . . . I have not had a girlfriend that thought we were in it for the long run in 25 years. There was one I considered it with, but I never mentioned it to her.

If you think that all chicks are into commitment, you are missing out on a lot . . . unless that is what you are seeking.

I'm not.

BTW, I have not dated a chick over the age of 36 in 15 years. If they are gold diggers, fine, I don't mind.

What are you getting? Coal diggers?

Baddog... get real.. the only girls you get are trailor trash junkies.. who the fuck else would want to see a guy like you who looks homeless and dirty and 3947 years old?

seriously... get off it.

Dude, do you ever get tired of telling us what our lives are?? Who the hell are you to tell baddog what girls he gets?
Do you hang out at his house? No, of course not... because you think he lives in a trailer park when he doesn't.

You talk about my house... ever even seen a picture of it??

No you haven't.

Will you ever grow up?? Seriously? Or will you always pull this school boy temper tantrum crap?

Unfortunately . . . . .

He draws all his conclusions straight out of his own ass, didn't you know?

His bunghole must be huge.

Exactly what I was thinking too. That gallery SoS posted is really nasty

I would say I'm surprised that baddog didn't reply to my post with anything, but that would just be an outright lie.

I have been busy, gone all day yesterday, this thread went off on a tangent and I have not read it all, don't recall reading your thread.

Good enough?

Found your post, and I did read it before, but found it so inane that I was at a loss for words.

Are you saying you are afraid of people?

I read 1/5 of this thread and I think its funny that people are getting all pissy about what a 21 year old kid that isn't int he biz anymore says about them.

No, but he did say that God told him to. At least the priest isn't a figment of the imagination.

Glad to see my post invoked some reaction. I am saying I am afraid of strangers, yes - "stranger danger" and all that, but moreso I was trying to say that society today is moving away from social interaction with strangers, and what's wrong with that?

Sure, it now means that if somebody is being mugged in the street nobody will step in and do anything about it, but that's what happens when society starts to drift away from the all-loving and all-caring fifties version where people went to chuch and shopped at the local green grocers because it was the "done thing", and start to now do what they actually want to do, without having to conform to the unwritten rules of society and without needing to stay within the social constraints of their class.

I wonder how many keyboards will break over the course of this thread...

I find that really sad. I also hope you are wrong. I know my kids are not as paranoid as you are. However, they don't spend all their time interacting over the Internet either, and they were raised with a lot of social interaction.

Paranoid I indeed am - I realised long ago that the world and society hate me, so I may as well put up with it however I can.

As for spending a lot of time on the Internet, I do, but I'd like to think I get out enough to see offline friends, but then again, who knows. Maybe those chavs on the street are just plain better people than me, and I'm too middle class to realise.

Uhhh do you not recall posting pictures of it all over GFY as if it was something special?

idiot. What... are you turning senile like baddog too? I guess it's going in logical order.. first you lose all your hair, and now your memory.

You mean the pics of the 7 story townhouse in Oakville that I lived in 3 years ago?
Yup, that truly was a dive... and you're really on the ball.

No, you idiot.. When you bought your new house, you posted pics all over gfy.

still going eh

Care to show me some? Because I am telling you right now that I didn't.
I did post pictures of some water damage in the basement though, if you can tell what the house looks like from a water droplet through the ceiling, you're a bonified psychic.

Care to talk out your ass some more? Idiot

You have piqued my interest . . . why do you feel that way? Emo?

pure gold!

btw, are chavs still a big thing over there?

I like turtles

You could probably class me as an Emo from my negative view on the world, yes. However, as was your post against me, so is society; whereas I'm sure a man of your stature and age could get away with talking to any stranger they wish to, if I, a lanky yoof (sic) were to do the same, chances are that nine times out of ten I'd get the shit beaten out of me for opening my mouth.

And before you say it, no I don't live in Communist China or lawless Russia; I live here in the UK, where, as I previously said, people are becoming more and more isolated, to a degree that they probably won't help you if you are being stabbed in the street, meanwhile the middle classes who read The Daily Mail will absorb as much of the constant "immigrants are bad for you, mkay?" indoctrination that the shitty paper can spew out, and blame all our problems on them. Good times.

Then again, there's ever chance I'm just being far too much of an Emo and should really go and talk to some random strangers, but who knows.
Chavs are not only still a "big thing" over here, they pretty much account for a vast amount of the populus. I can understand the crappy excuses they have for having nothing to do, and so having to hang around on street corners, but that doesn't give you an automatic excuse to then abuse anybody and everybody who should pass you for no reason; but I suppose when your mum is working a 9-5 down the office, your dad is working the nightshift and your little brother is doing well in school, you've got the excuses to be a miscreant, because after all, your life ain't nothing but a hard knock life foo! You and "your crew" just gotta go and diss those other middle-class chav kids or they might upgrade their mealtime gravy up from Tesco Value to Bisto.

Fuckers.

SOS is one of the finest youths around. If you dont like him you should talk to the others.

you're fuckin' depressing!

this thread is weird... first it was about baddog and sos, and now we're talking about emo's and "chavs", a term i only heard of a few weeks ago. What does chav stand for anyway?

Coming from a Scot!

chavtastic!

No doubt. I don't know what a chav is, but damn, it would suck to be afraid to talk to a stranger.

I have a great time meeting new people. With all the traveling I do it would be a lot different if I had Emo's attitude.

bradm dated a black girl?

250 . . .

Don't feel bad. I didn't know what 420 meant except that it was my kids birthday until a couple of years ago.