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  • Jennings
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    • Nov 2006
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    #51
    hd110u and 1080i


    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hd110u+1080i

    Also, factory settings are 60i 60 step shutter at 1080i output.
    Last edited by Jennings; 08-22-2007, 10:01 PM.

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      • Jennings
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        • Nov 2006
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        #52
        Originally posted by vidvicious
        arri matte boxes suck
        HEY NOW!


        Elaborate?
        I'm getting a 16X9 Inc Chroziel matte and follow for my jvc.

        Also correction on JVC site:


        GY-HD110U 720p/1080i/NTSC
        http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/MO...c/dtv_app.html
        Last edited by Jennings; 08-22-2007, 10:04 PM.

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          • vidvicious
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            • Oct 2002
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            #53
            I find them bulky .. Chroziel makes great matte boxes for today's smaller format cameras.
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              • tony299
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                • Aug 2002
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                #54
                It does it shoot in 4:2:2 ? If its still hdv its weak compared to the hvx.

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                  • vidvicious
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                    • Oct 2002
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                    #55
                    Sorry to interupt your back and forth with Tony ... But I just have to say this.

                    This type of responce (see quote below), in my opinion would come from a Grip or 2nd Camera assitant ... not a Pro Cameraman ...
                    As a producer, He would have the last say on the equipement used. Solely on for the reason that Production Values fall under his and the directors duties.

                    That is all ...

                    Originally posted by Jennings

                    "your more pro than clint eastwood I think not."

                    Yes, as a camera operator I am. Clint Eastwood was the producer, NOT the production company. You do know what a producer is correct?

                    "Your this big shot what are you doing here? Got thrown out of mainstream?"

                    No, just saw another pro on the board.

                    Please go back to dvxuser now and learn, your embarassing yourself.

                    Thanks.
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                      • vidvicious
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by tony404
                        It does it shoot in 4:2:2 ? If its still hdv its weak compared to the hvx.

                        Unless JVC decided to add 1080 specs on another page ... This camera is 4:1:1

                        the same as sony DVCAM

                        Funny thing is JVC was the only company to make a Digital record camera in 4:2:2 back in the DVCam explosion days ( I can't remember the format, but the tapes looked like VHS but were DV/digital record) ... JVC is a Panasonic Company BTW
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                          • tony299
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                            #57
                            Originally posted by vidvicious
                            Sorry to interupt your back and forth with Tony ... But I just have to say this.

                            This type of responce (see quote below), in my opinion would come from a Grip or 2nd Camera assitant ... not a Pro Cameraman ...
                            As a producer, He would have the last say on the equipement used. Solely on for the reason that Production Values fall under his and the directors duties.

                            That is all ...
                            Thanks for the info V Im done

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                              • vidvicious
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                                • Oct 2002
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                                #58
                                Ditto here Tony .. Time for a jay and it's off to bed
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                                  • Jennings
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                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by vidvicious
                                    Unless JVC decided to add 1080 specs on another page ... This camera is 4:1:1

                                    the same as sony DVCAM

                                    Funny thing is JVC was the only company to make a Digital record camera in 4:2:2 back in the DVCam explosion days ( I can't remember the format, but the tapes looked like VHS but were DV/digital record) ... JVC is a Panasonic Company BTW

                                    4:2:2

                                    Panasonic just took over JVC.
                                    Within the last 7 months.
                                    That was national news.

                                    I'm not a 2cd co, that's insulting

                                    This might be gfy, but the most unprofessional thing so far is one pro leading an amatuer to believe he was correct on what he was saying.

                                    Shame on you.

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                                      • Jennings
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                                        • Nov 2006
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                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                        Thanks for the info V Im done

                                        Filming? Thank god.
                                        BTW, everything you said was wrong in this thread, if he wants to pretend to be your buddy and pretend you were correct in anyway shape or form, that's him trying to save you from looking like an idiot.


                                        Good thing I don't come to gfy alot, I'm to busy FILMING.

                                        Must be doing something right after 14 years of this.

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                                          • vidvicious
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                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by Jennings
                                            4:2:2

                                            Panasonic just took over JVC.
                                            Within the last 7 months.
                                            That was national news.

                                            I'm not a 2cd co, that's insulting

                                            This might be gfy, but the most unprofessional thing so far is one pro leading an amatuer to believe he was correct on what he was saying.

                                            Shame on you.

                                            ROFLMAO ...

                                            I read the JVC spec page and there was no mention of 1080 60p ... or a 4:2:2 compression ratio .. However it was clear as day, 4:1:1 .... I do appreciate your input in this thread really .... I was just making an observation that that type of responce isn't one an operator would make ... It was irrelevant whether or not mr Eastwood chose that camera on his own accord .. He's an actor with money that hires the right people to make him look good. I doubt very highly that Clint brushed up on his Tech Specs before setting up a budget or script
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                                              • tony299
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                                                As he began preparations to make back-to-back films about the historic World War II battle for Iwo Jima—Flags of our Fathers and the upcoming Letters from Iwo Jima—director Clint Eastwood reports that he seriously investigated using high-definition cameras to make the movies. Eastwood had DP Tom Stern’s camera team and HD camera operator Liz Radley conduct a series of tests to compare footage from various HD camera systems with 35mm film footage. At the end of the day, Eastwood chose to continue shooting film as he always has for the project, although he did bring both movies to Technicolor Digital Intermediates (TDI) for the first digital intermediates of his storied career. (See an upcoming issue of Millimeter for a detailed examination of the DI work done on both movies.)

                                                Despite the decision to shoot film, however, Eastwood did decide to include some HDV POV-style footage in both movies for specific creative reasons. He says the overall experience has moved him closer to fully entering the HD acquisition universe.

                                                “I looked at all the [available] digital cameras, and tested them against film to see if the digital age was here completely,” Eastwood recently told Millimeter. “I know, some day, that will be it. But for this project, I felt HD did not hold up quite enough compared to film for the way I wanted it to look. It obviously had some advantages, but I just felt I couldn’t control atmospheres as well—I couldn’t get quite as deep into the blacks as I wanted. So I decided to shoot film. It was almost like they needed to go another millimeter before HD gets to where I want it to be. I’m sure [manufacturers] will get there before long the way things are progressing. They are already so close. But for me anyway, the main advantage I’m looking for is portability—small cameras. Some of the systems we tested were really big. I’m looking for the day they can be as small as [a tape recorder] and still look great on the screen. That’s kind of what I was thinking about when I had the idea of using HD cameras [to capture frenetic battle footage].”

                                                http://digitalcontentproducer.com/mi...s_HD_11142006/
                                                Last edited by tony286; 08-22-2007, 10:32 PM.

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                                                  • vidvicious
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                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by Jennings
                                                    4:2:2

                                                    Panasonic just took over JVC.
                                                    Within the last 7 months.
                                                    That was national news.

                                                    I'm not a 2cd co, that's insulting

                                                    This might be gfy, but the most unprofessional thing so far is one pro leading an amatuer to believe he was correct on what he was saying.

                                                    Shame on you.
                                                    lastly Matsushita has owned both JVC and Panasonic for as long as I can remember ... Matsushita Group currently operates 49 companies in China, with annual turnover reaching approximately 300 billion yen. What you read about some 7 months ago refered to Matsushita diluting holdings in JVC from 52.4% to 36.8%, allowing it to stop treating JVC as a consolidated subsidiary and handle it as an equity-method affiliate. allowing it's other holdings (pana) to pick up the slack. Matsushita has owned JVC since the early 1950s

                                                    This was some very simple copy and paste, general information ... .

                                                    shame on you Jennings

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                                                      • zeruel
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                                                        #64
                                                        nice pics there! oh... and i love the camera...

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                                                          • Jennings
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                                                            • Nov 2006
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                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by vidvicious
                                                            ROFLMAO ...

                                                            I read the JVC spec page and there was no mention of 1080 60p ... or a 4:2:2 compression ratio .. However it was clear as day, 4:1:1 .... I do appreciate your input in this thread really .... I was just making an observation that that type of responce isn't one an operator would make ... It was irrelevant whether or not mr Eastwood chose that camera on his own accord .. He's an actor with money that hires the right people to make him look good. I doubt very highly that Clint brushed up on his Tech Specs before setting up a budget or script

                                                            http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...110u+4%3A2%3A2

                                                            Live 720/60P analog component output (4:2:2 equivalent)

                                                            My responce is I'm annoyed by some idiot trying to profess his love for a consumer camcorder sold at best buy against a camera that even Adam Wilt said was clearly superior. And I know you know who Adam Wilt is.

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                                                              • vidvicious
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by tony404

                                                                Despite the decision to shoot film, however, Eastwood did decide to include some HDV POV-style footage in both movies for specific creative reasons. He says the overall experience has moved him closer to fully entering the HD acquisition universe.

                                                                ?I looked at all the [available] digital cameras, and tested them against film to see if the digital age was here completely,? Eastwood recently told Millimeter. ?I know, some day, that will be it. But for this project, I felt HD did not hold up quite enough compared to film for the way I wanted it to look. It obviously had some advantages, but I just felt I couldn?t control atmospheres as well?I couldn?t get quite as deep into the blacks as I wanted. So I decided to shoot film. It was almost like they needed to go another millimeter before HD gets to where I want it to be. I?m sure [manufacturers] will get there before long the way things are progressing. They are already so close. But for me anyway, the main advantage I?m looking for is portability?small cameras. Some of the systems we tested were really big. I?m looking for the day they can be as small as [a tape recorder] and still look great on the screen. That?s kind of what I was thinking about when I had the idea of using HD cameras [to capture frenetic battle footage].?

                                                                http://digitalcontentproducer.com/mi...s_HD_11142006/
                                                                Oppz ... you proved me wrong .. I guess clint does do his own research ...
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                                                                  • Jennings
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                                                                    #67
                                                                    "Eastwood had DP Tom Stern’s camera team and HD camera operator Liz Radley conduct a series of tests to compare footage from various HD camera systems with 35mm film footage."

                                                                    Clint Eastwood didn't do any reasearch.
                                                                    That's the part tony404 cut out to make it look like he knew what he was talking about. He didnt think anyone would actually click the link and read.



                                                                    As I said 10 posts ago, DP and camera operator.
                                                                    Tony, all your doing is making yourself look more idiot with each post.

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                                                                      • Jennings
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                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by vidvicious
                                                                        lastly Matsushita has owned both JVC and Panasonic for as long as I can remember ... Matsushita Group currently operates 49 companies in China, with annual turnover reaching approximately 300 billion yen. What you read about some 7 months ago refered to Matsushita diluting holdings in JVC from 52.4% to 36.8%, allowing it to stop treating JVC as a consolidated subsidiary and handle it as an equity-method affiliate. allowing it's other holdings (pana) to pick up the slack. Matsushita has owned JVC since the early 1950s

                                                                        This was some very simple copy and paste, general information ... .

                                                                        shame on you Jennings

                                                                        Panasonic does NOT own JVC and it never has. You said Panasonic owned jvc.

                                                                        Shame! SHAME!

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                                                                          • zand_stein
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                                                                            nice cammera..and very nicegurls!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                              • vidvicious
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                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by Jennings
                                                                                http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...110u+4%3A2%3A2

                                                                                Live 720/60P analog component output (4:2:2 equivalent)

                                                                                My responce is I'm annoyed by some idiot trying to profess his love for a consumer camcorder sold at best buy against a camera that even Adam Wilt said was clearly superior. And I know you know who Adam Wilt is.
                                                                                Hold up there a second cowboy ...

                                                                                First off there is a huge difference between 4:2:2 equivalent and 4:2:2 ... Second I never professed my love for this camera. I have it and use it and that was the only point of this thread.
                                                                                As a professional I do allow myself the opertunity to learn and grow with this industry. I pride myself of being upto date (as much as I can) with the ever changing technology of the broadcast industry.
                                                                                Had you done a search on this board you would of seen a few things. I for one never claim to know all and usually research my posts before posting them. I also rely strongly on Manfacture Posts and not of DVinfo.net's member based. People using PROSUMER cameras trying to modify them for pro use. No rather I would rent the right Camera for the job, and I still do this to this day ...

                                                                                Oh and I've not seen eye to eye with Tony on many technical subjects .. but I do Value his opinion and knoweldge, just as I valued yours in this post .. you just decided to stick to irrelevant issues. Who knows maybe you have a Group disscussion complexe ... Use what you use, shoot the way you want to shoot, if it works for you then go with it .. But if you haven't noticed there are alot of people on this board that look for imformative threads such as this one to better they're product ... So if they want to shoot HD content with a Canon HV10 and they're members or clients like they're content, all the power to them .. whom are you to say otherwise .. Oh wait I remember: A professional Close Curcuit Rock show shooter.
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                                                                                  • vidvicious
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                                                                                    Originally posted by Jennings
                                                                                    Panasonic does NOT own JVC and it never has. You said Panasonic owned jvc.

                                                                                    Shame! SHAME!
                                                                                    I'll chalk this one down to you being tired ... and not reading correctly ... Matsushita has owned both JVC and Panasonic
                                                                                    Hense mastsushita is the PARENT COMPANY ... PARENT as in Owns them all.
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                                                                                          • tony299
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                                                                                            I found Adams review on the hvx200
                                                                                            http://www.dv.com/reviews/reviews_it...leId=187202354
                                                                                            Where his is one on the 110u I would like to read it. Just FYI I get 5 different video mags a month, Im not big pro but I do know how to read.

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                                                                                              • tony299
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                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by Jennings
                                                                                                "Eastwood had DP Tom Stern’s camera team and HD camera operator Liz Radley conduct a series of tests to compare footage from various HD camera systems with 35mm film footage."

                                                                                                Clint Eastwood didn't do any reasearch.
                                                                                                That's the part tony404 cut out to make it look like he knew what he was talking about. He didnt think anyone would actually click the link and read.



                                                                                                As I said 10 posts ago, DP and camera operator.
                                                                                                Tony, all your doing is making yourself look more idiot with each post.
                                                                                                I gave you the beginning of the article til where they were talking to about hdv I cut nothing out I included the link twice.I have no problem saying im wrong Ive done it a few times in this thread. Try again

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                                                                                                  • Jennings
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                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by vidvicious
                                                                                                    Oh wait I remember: A professional Close Curcuit Rock show shooter.
                                                                                                    I'll let MTV know what you think about them

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                                                                                                      • vidvicious
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                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        this will probably be the last thing I write before heading of too bed (As my blunt is just about finnished)

                                                                                                        I use this board to Network and find clients. I use thread Banter to promote myself, my experience and my work. So Basicly I'm having a blast right now ... knowing that my one comment has brought you over the top.

                                                                                                        the one thing I've loved about this board and posting on it. Is that I always learn something new and these so called "amateurs" sometimes understand a Format, compression, edit platform ...etc better then us pros do ... Call it simplifing to the most common denominator. What ever. I've been able to learn so much on this board.

                                                                                                        So rather then take this all in a harch manner. And go to bed pouting and peeved that an amateur might of should you up. Think of this a great learning experience not every one agrees with you and NOT everyone see's a camera as being the Best for them.

                                                                                                        Good luck with you're filming and I hope you do come back for another Tech Discussion.

                                                                                                        Oh one last thing .. What is it you do again? and why are you posting on this board if your in the mainstream Industry?
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                                                                                                          • vidvicious
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                                                                                                            Originally posted by Jennings
                                                                                                            I'll let MTV know what you think about them

                                                                                                            ROFLMAO

                                                                                                            Umm ? FCC thinks they're cable too

                                                                                                            If they are anything like MUCHMUSIC/CHUM in canada .. then my Comment stays warranted. LOL
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                                                                                                              • vidvicious
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                                                                                                                This is great training for my Seminar at Qwebec Expo conferance this friday



                                                                                                                3 pm .. be there.
                                                                                                                We're covering " production values " this year
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                                                                                                                  • venus
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                                                                                                                    you mean the canon XHA1 ?
                                                                                                                    thats the camera I have.

                                                                                                                    Originally posted by vidvicious
                                                                                                                    I'm still itching to try the Canon XH1A
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                                                                                                                          • vidvicious
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                                                                                                                            Originally posted by venus
                                                                                                                            you mean the canon XHA1 ?
                                                                                                                            thats the camera I have.
                                                                                                                            that would be it ..

                                                                                                                            I have no experience with this camera other then readign spec pages .. And I gotta say the specs look good ... got any footage I can see shot with it ?
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                                                                                                                              • venus
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                                                                                                                                sure, but I am not too good with the video camera yet, I am still learning it, I shot this on automatic
                                                                                                                                http://www.landofvenus.com/weeklypics/8-1-07.wmv

                                                                                                                                There is allot this camera can do but as I said, I am still trying to get it all figured out. The above was also shot at 60i


                                                                                                                                Originally posted by vidvicious
                                                                                                                                that would be it ..

                                                                                                                                I have no experience with this camera other then readign spec pages .. And I gotta say the specs look good ... got any footage I can see shot with it ?
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                                                                                                                                  • Jennings
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                                                                                                                                    I'll be filming for Van Halen's opening night on their tour in Charlotte.
                                                                                                                                    Hired directly by the band.
                                                                                                                                    I'll let them know I'm an "amateur"

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                                                                                                                                      • alex_1980
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                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Jennings
                                                                                                                                        Live 720/60P analog component output (4:2:2 equivalent)
                                                                                                                                        The key words here are "Live", "analog", and "4:2:2 equivalent"

                                                                                                                                        "Live" - Translation: You're getting the signal directly from the camera head before it gets encoded to the tape. That's all well and good if you're doing a live broadcast with switchers and such. Not too good if you're in adult though...

                                                                                                                                        "analog" - Translation: expect some generation losses....

                                                                                                                                        "4:2:2 equivalent" - Translation: It's not digital still.... heck BetacamSP could be considered 4:2:2 equivalent....

                                                                                                                                        My piddly Sony HDV camcorder has HDMI outputs on it, technically I could get a "Live 1080i uncompressed digital signal" which beats analog 4:2:2 equivalent hands down.

                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by vidvicious
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                                                                                                                                          • Vick!
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                                                                                                                                            do the hell with camera, who is the model in pink? can you post more pics?














































                                                                                                                                            hey, kidding about camera .. its really clear shit.
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                                                                                                                                                It aint the camera...it's the guy behind the camera.

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