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Originally Posted by MediaGuy
This is interesting, excepting that there were no "fire pits" in the WTC, most of the fuel was consumed outside the buildings, and that tests by UL reproducing those conditions didn't produce anything near the same "conditions".
The other thing is that no matter where one or two or even a dozen "fire pits" could have been somehow reproduced on that day, they couldn't have reduced all joints, columns and supports to "softness" at the same time to create the symmetrical, jolt-free collapses we saw.
And besides, FEMA and NIST both deny claims that the steel could have reached that fail-safe poiint, globally and uniformally...
That's as misguided an attempt at "experiment" or reproducing the events as sprinkling thermite over the beams (the way the tv "experts" did).
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When you have a set opinion it's easy to poke holes in something else but that doesn't mean it didn't happen in some way... No one knows what what going on in there and there's lots of possibilities... The one thing the video proves is that the entire 'laws of physics" argument is invalid since it shows that steel will weaken at temperatures far below it's melting point ie 2000F vs 2600F and that it only takes a few minutes for a collapse to occur at those temperatures.
Here's the great thing about science and the laws of physics.. They apply to specific circumstances.. Once you add in a bunch of variables, unless there is some specific science that also takes into account those variables, you can't point to those laws of physics as proof of anything anymore. All scientific "laws/facts" are only valid with todays knowledge. Tomorrow they could change.
As for the FEMA/NIST thing.. Cherry picking what to believe in their reports and what not to believe is just weak IMO... As I've said before, no one knows what happened in there and no one can ever prove one theory over another. Unless some definitive smoking gun is uncovered, this will forever remain a controversy.