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  • Grapesoda
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    • Jul 2003
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    #1

    going to court today

    so I got a speeding ticket in march that I set for a trial. sitting in the courtroom waiting for the trial to start, the bailiff called me over. he handed me a dismissal notice. WTF? right. so I give it to the lawyer, he checks with the bailiff, twice. so I split. then I get the conviction in the mail. so as soon as I left with the dismissal notice, they convected me. what a fucking mess. so I'm on the way back. this should be very interesting don't ya think? double jeopardy? bmb
  • Violetta
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    • Jul 2004
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    #2
    How much $$ was the ticket?
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    • Grapesoda
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      • Jul 2003
      • 46234

      #3
      Originally posted by Rockatansky
      How much $$ was the ticket?

      only $300 however the 4-5k, maybe more, on my car insurance over the next three years is the big deal. was wanting to pick up a corvette z06 in october

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      • G-Rotica
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        • Aug 2005
        • 4258

        #4
        don't ya just love our justice system.

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        • frostyimpressions
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          • May 2007
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          #5
          That's the court system always looking for loopholes to screw us out of our hard earned cash.
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          • riabanana
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            • Jul 2007
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            • shake
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              • Jul 2003
              • 4663

              #7
              As long as you have the dismissal notice on paper you should be fine
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              • Tom_PM
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                • Feb 2005
                • 16443

                #8
                That sounds like a clerical error in your favor. Would like to know what they do to resolve it.
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                • Grapesoda
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 46234

                  #9
                  Originally posted by shake
                  As long as you have the dismissal notice on paper you should be fine

                  gonna find out to tomorrow, have to see the judge at 1:15 pm. worst case is I get a new trial date for the ticket and start over. I'm gonna play it like this case was dismissed your honor and see how that plays. should be interesting.

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                  • Grapesoda
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 46234

                    #10
                    so here's what happened: they court basically said, whoops!! and then set a new trial for the ticket. no apology or anything. those pricks.

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                    • tomeatsdinner
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                      • Jul 2007
                      • 262

                      #11
                      oh.. That sucks.

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                      • baddog
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                        • Apr 2001
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bm bradley
                        so here's what happened: they court basically said, whoops!! and then set a new trial for the ticket. no apology or anything. those pricks.
                        Not surprising . . . which court?

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                        • Grapesoda
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 46234

                          #13
                          Originally posted by baddog
                          Not surprising . . . which court?
                          ventura. much nicer that the LA courts, not as busy at all. much cleaner. hoping to beat this ticket and another one I have in SLO area. wanna get a performance car and the thought of the INS with 2 points is making me lose sleep.

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                          • baddog
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 107089

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bm bradley
                            ventura. much nicer that the LA courts, not as busy at all. much cleaner. hoping to beat this ticket and another one I have in SLO area. wanna get a performance car and the thought of the INS with 2 points is making me lose sleep.
                            Yeah, I can understand cleaner and smaller dockets, but that rarely influences decisions.

                            The reason I asked was because of an issue I had in the Fresno County Court and man, the first judge I saw was one of those kill 'em all, let God sort them out types.

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                            • Grapesoda
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 46234

                              #15
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              Yeah, I can understand cleaner and smaller dockets, but that rarely influences decisions.

                              The reason I asked was because of an issue I had in the Fresno County Court and man, the first judge I saw was one of those kill 'em all, let God sort them out types.
                              the arraignment judge is a real struggle, didn't see the other judge yet because of the dismissal. taking a lawyer, that'll help some. saw lots of cops decline to testify yesterday. they don't want to risk perjury if they don't remember. I think the cop I got stuck with is filled with 'hell fire' I'll find out 10/2

                              everybody should take every ticket to court is my opinion, I do.

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                              • frank7799
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                                • Jul 2003
                                • 1974

                                #16
                                Originally posted by bm bradley
                                only $300 however the 4-5k, maybe more, on my car insurance over the next three years is the big deal. was wanting to pick up a corvette z06 in october
                                Is our car insurance related to the ticket?

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                                • Grapesoda
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                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 46234

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by m4yadult
                                  Is our car insurance related to the ticket?

                                  of course it is? do you drive a car and have insurance in the US? not sure how it works outside the US, here it's over 1k for one ticket per year, not sure what 2 tickets will do. won't be pretty and on a performance car it will be real ugly.

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                                  • Grapesoda
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 46234

                                    #18
                                    double post
                                    Last edited by Grapesoda; 08-22-2007, 11:32 AM.

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                                    • StuBradley
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                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 2625

                                      #19
                                      I find it very interesting that not once have you proclaimed your innocence of these traffic offenses, just that you want to avoid paying for the crimes you committed. What the fuck is wrong with people in this country??? You broke the law and you got caught...pay the fucking ticket and be glad they let you continue to operate a motor vehicle.

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                                      • baddog
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                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 107089

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by bm bradley
                                        here it's over 1k for one ticket per year
                                        That would only apply if you are getting them every year.

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                                        • Grapesoda
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 46234

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by StuBradley
                                          I find it very interesting that not once have you proclaimed your innocence of these traffic offenses, just that you want to avoid paying for the crimes you committed. What the fuck is wrong with people in this country??? You broke the law and you got caught...pay the fucking ticket and be glad they let you continue to operate a motor vehicle.

                                          I did plead not guilty. of course I wasn't speeding that's why there is a day in court. you're confused. why do you think I'm driving 50 miles and going to court every few days to straighten this out? you think I'm bored? do you think it's okay to trick a guy into leaving the room and then convicting him with out a trial when he specifically asked for one. that work for you dipshit? apparently you're whats wrong with people in this country.

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                                          • Grapesoda
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                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 46234

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                            That would only apply if you are getting them every year.
                                            very true

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                                            • DaddyHalbucks
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                                              • Feb 2004
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                                              #23
                                              Yea, the insurance ramifications of tickets can be nasty.

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                                              • frank7799
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                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 1974

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                of course it is? do you drive a car and have insurance in the US? not sure how it works outside the US, here it's over 1k for one ticket per year, not sure what 2 tickets will do. won't be pretty and on a performance car it will be real ugly.
                                                I´m not living in the US and it´s totally different here, so I wasn´t sure if I got it right. Insurance here has different prices depending on the type of car, the area where you are living at. For both there is a statistic of accidents for each type of car and area which leads to the insurance fee.

                                                I´m always interested in other countries solutions, that´s why I asked.

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                                                • Humpy Leftnut
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                                                  • Apr 2007
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                                                  #25
                                                  Nothing is wrong with people for taking advantage of a wacky system, hell the government does it to us all the time, any chance they can get... They sit up at night and dream of ways of MAKING A SYSTEM to fuck us over..

                                                  I do agree though, why it's okay to deny you did anything every single time you get caught by police is ridiculous. Here in Toronto if the police officer who stopped you can't or didn't show up to court with you, then you get off free and clear like nothing happened, even if you racked up 4-5 tickets in a single stop.

                                                  Seems like a waste and abuse of our legal system. I think you should only be able to challenge something like that if you have a real case to present, where the police clearly did something wrong or whatever. And if you're found with no case, there should be a fine for wasting the courts time.

                                                  I mean it's to the point where you're a complete fumbling idiot to ever plead guilty to a traffic offense. Is that right?
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                                                  • baddog
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                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                    • 107089

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by m4yadult
                                                    I´m not living in the US and it´s totally different here, so I wasn´t sure if I got it right. Insurance here has different prices depending on the type of car, the area where you are living at. For both there is a statistic of accidents for each type of car and area which leads to the insurance fee.

                                                    I´m always interested in other countries solutions, that´s why I asked.
                                                    So the rates are not effected by how many tickets or wrecks you have, just the kind of car you drive?

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                                                    • BusterBunny
                                                      perverted justice decoy
                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                      • 19291

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                      so here's what happened: they court basically said, whoops!! and then set a new trial for the ticket. no apology or anything. those pricks.
                                                      that's retarded
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                                                      • Grapesoda
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                                                        • Jul 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BusterBunny
                                                        that's retarded

                                                        i thought so at first then I consider the way it went. i wasn't found innocent, or not guilty. the case was dismissed so they just re-filed the the charges against me. kinda scary actually. if th cop doesn't show and the case is dismissed can they get the cop and have another run at you? they don't but could they? it's their ball and they play the game they want.

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                                                        • Grapesoda
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                                                          • Jul 2003
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by m4yadult
                                                          I´m not living in the US and it´s totally different here, so I wasn´t sure if I got it right. Insurance here has different prices depending on the type of car, the area where you are living at. For both there is a statistic of accidents for each type of car and area which leads to the insurance fee.

                                                          I´m always interested in other countries solutions, that´s why I asked.

                                                          same exact way in the US however moving violations incur financial penalties.

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                                                          • Grapesoda
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                                                            • Jul 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Humpy Leftnut
                                                            I mean it's to the point where you're a complete fumbling idiot to ever plead guilty to a traffic offense. Is that right?
                                                            that's my opinion.

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                                                            • StuBradley
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                                                              • Jul 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                              do you think it's okay to trick a guy into leaving the room and then convicting him with out a trial when he specifically asked for one.
                                                              Perhaps you should just avoid breaking the law in the first place and you wouldn't have to put up with legal snafus like this. Perhaps our court systems are overstressed because some people try to get out of every ticket they rightfully receive so as not to be 'burdened' with paying higher insurance premiums. You openly admit that you believe everyone should waste the court's time, then cry like a baby when the court wastes yours. Pathetic.

                                                              Straight from the horse's mouth.....

                                                              Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                              everybody should take every ticket to court is my opinion, I do.

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                                                              • Grapesoda
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                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 46234

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by StuBradley
                                                                Perhaps you should just avoid breaking the law in the first place and you wouldn't have to put up with legal snafus like this. Perhaps our court systems are overstressed because some people try to get out of every ticket they rightfully receive so as not to be 'burdened' with paying higher insurance premiums. You openly admit that you believe everyone should waste the court's time, then cry like a baby when the court wastes yours. Pathetic.

                                                                Straight from the horse's mouth.....
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                                                                • zand_stein
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                                                                  • Jul 2007
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  how much did you pay?
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                                                                  • Grapesoda
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 46234

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by zand_stein
                                                                    how much did you pay?
                                                                    dont burn any government paper......
                                                                    whoa!!! what have you been doing. everybody is pissed at you!!

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                                                                    • drx
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      that sucks
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                                                                      • irinasp
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                                                                        • Apr 2007
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        what was your overspeed?

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                                                                        • Grapesoda
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                          • 46234

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by irinasp
                                                                          what was your overspeed?
                                                                          the cops is claiming 85 in a 65

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                                                                          • frank7799
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                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 1974

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                                            So the rates are not effected by how many tickets or wrecks you have, just the kind of car you drive?
                                                                            Basically yes. But you get discounts - I think it´s no claims bonus - for every year without a car accident from your insurance company. If you have an accident in a year, your insurance rate for the next year gets less discount. There are fixed rates which apply for every insurance company.

                                                                            Starting at 175% for persons with fresh driving licences, you pay 25% only if you didn´t have an accident for 25 years.

                                                                            The system works independent of tickets.

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