oh, and 600 thieving collaborators..
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talking to yourself now friend? i think everyone was right a page back when you were labeled a troll at this point, i gave you the benefit of the doubt of maybe just being uninformed..
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A1R3K, regardless the fact that in the future you are probably going to read this forum from US prison or you are not going to read it at all because you are going to be so broke without no means to pay for your internet access I want you understand that I am not deaf.
I really understand the problem people are talking on this thread.
but I suggest people like you should focus on the following :
1. Web 2.0/community sites/ or call them as you whish - whether they host 99% pirated content or 3% of pirated content - they are legal! and attacking them as a concept is not respecting freedom of speech! you are not the one to determine what's pirated on them and what's not. you can only police your content on them on a specific and a concrete level! and not on a global level.
2. Not respecting DMCA as a copyright producer/owner is a prove that the real war you are managing here is against the concept of freespeech and those type of community sites in general and not for the removal of your content specifically! As mentioned before - most of those community sites don't give a shit about you and your "precious" content and they will delete it in no time if you send them a respectable and polite abuse message.
3. Accusing those site as doing a massive crime before even approaching them with concrete DMCA abuses is not respecting the law in my book!
4. Blaming those sites because of your business failures and not legal marketing practices is lame and not justice
I really understand the problem of copyright infringement in the age of the internet and I would like to see some serious orgs and comities that combine web publishers along with right owners and work together solving this problem in a respectable manner with respect to the opinion of the general community and its privacy and freedom of speech. but before we reach to this point we need to clean up totally the area from people like you that disrespect the majority of people, disrespect privacy and is not ethical and moral. Once we will do this - and we are going to do this because I see a lot of pressure is starting to develop around people like you - we will start moving to a direction for a better internet for all of us.
maybe getting you in prison will be the first move to untie us all. We realy want to join you in the next piracy summit - get to know the people on a personal level! am I invited?Comment
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i can't believe you all get caught up in conversations with people like this
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I think that by now you should know what I am doing, what is my opinion and can guess also between the lines what is my agenda. Actually, I don't have a complete agenda yet. Its developing as I see the crap developing around this forum and getting to know better people like you! If you do not seem to remember what am I doing and what's my opinion - then please I suggest you to read this thread from the beginning.
isn't that enough to know about me? do you also want to know to the summit what's the length of my dick, how fat by balls are or what's the name of my real mother before she has turned me up for adoption before inviting me ?
Am I invited? ( I am really a nice guy - I am sure we are going to find ourselves partying together after the summit ends....)Comment
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i never said it was , the point is why would you support such filth ,
if your argument is " because its not illegal " you can see the dilema
again i never claimed or even alluded that it was/is , i said thats what many/most people are concerned about.
i disagree , you dont see legal child model sites on gfy for this exact reason.. you dont see any gfy sponsor on warez sites for this exact reason.. not because its illegal , because its wrong ..hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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SMokey - Well Contributory infringement happens to be a legal term Smokey
The Laws on Contributory Infringement are very well defined.
It actually means something but it does not mean what Evan is portraying here.
I aint supporting the theft of content or illegal content.
Like i said There is The Good The Bad And The Ugly.
The adage is not only a movie but an old adult adage.
THe Ugly is always the Gray area of law.
Just like Dialers. They were Ugly, people hated them yet people made alot of money on them and ran them so hard it became a bad name to even consumers. The Ugly again Spyware...
Its not illegal to swap referral codes at a browser level but it is still done...Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 08-20-2007, 10:32 PM.
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Ya guys will also note I am not supporting the thief Torrent site(s) that is hosting Evans Video of Paris and other clearly copyrighted materials.
That is illegal and wrong. Plane and simple.
But in all it is a matter of enforcement and regulation.
However self regulation from within the industry is not going to work.
Odd's are the Adult Industry is going to have to wait for Mainstream to make some laws regarding video share sites. Thats an 800 Ton Gorilla though and probably about another 1 million threads.
Affilaites and programs can take a stand but I know where that road goes as well.Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 08-20-2007, 10:36 PM.
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I am really not that dangerous criminal as you. I respect the law and respect other people right and PRIVACY
Again, don?t show us how scared are you. I really want to see your face soon when a nice letter is going to be delivered in hand to you from a nice legal firm in your area. Please don?t piss in your pants.
Don?t want to comment on this - but I have too - listen pal I am not afraid as you are because the LAW protects people like me from criminals like you!
Not going to comment on this.
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i'll venture a guess that not a single publisher or sponsor, listed in places where our video is misused, has actual 2257 documentation for it. The video is definitely not exempt.
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he is like a communist, once removed.Comment
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seriously, like the course of my life would be any different if i never saw 100% of the shit i've ever seen on YouTube...Comment
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Regarding RIAA, I suggest that you follow this press
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13077
Soon its going to reach also the MPAA and hopefully some people that are reading this thread.
Soon the world will discover that hunting down front end users is not practical and also its not practical TODAY hunting down web 2.0 sites since the law protects them and their sponsors from crazy people like some of you guys here (thank god!). This means that no one can stop this phenomena called "sharing" and since this will not be practical anymore to enforce laws in this area - sharing adult videos as well as mainstream movie, TV series, music etc. will be decriminalized (as happens in some other countries in the world) that?s the truth and the simple fact!
So start re-thinking your practices and business models - they are not going to stay forever!Comment
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If your business model were perfectly efficient, what it would do is drive incentive to produce down to zero. You would effectively be choking out your source of content and you'd ultimately fail.Regarding RIAA, I suggest that you follow this press
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13077
Soon its going to reach also the MPAA and hopefully some people that are reading this thread.
Soon the world will discover that hunting down front end users is not practical and also its not practical TODAY hunting down web 2.0 sites since the law protects them and their sponsors from crazy people like some of you guys here (thank god!). This means that no one can stop this phenomena called "sharing" and since this will not be practical anymore to enforce laws in this area - sharing adult videos as well as mainstream movie, TV series, music etc. will be decriminalized (as happens in some other countries in the world) that?s the truth and the simple fact!
So start re-thinking your practices and business models - they are not going to stay forever!
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This is your mistake - the black kid singing chocolate rain is a blockbuster! more popular then many paid productions. Now if you also think that we are going to see only independent low quality creations on web 2.0 vid sharing sites- then you are wrong! We see more and more artist mainly in the music industry submit their stuff for free - this trend will continue to other art forms as new business models will be realized - and they will because this is the nature of evolution! one of the good thing regarding this trend is that its going to eliminate people like you So start writing your CV because you will be needing one soon.
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You're taking the argument that user generated content is more valuable than studio produced content. That's a valid argument, make your sites stick to user generated content then. Create your own market with your own content that you feel will create you the most return. Don't ride off of 99% produced studio content then try and say user generated content makes more money.This is your mistake - the black kid singing chocolate rain is a blockbuster! more popular then many paid productions. Now if you also think that we are going to see only independent low quality creations on web 2.0 vid sharing sites- then you are wrong! We see more and more artist mainly in the music industry submit their stuff for free - this trend will continue to other art forms as new business models will be realized - and they will because this is the nature of evolution! one of the good thing regarding this trend is that its going to eliminate people like you So start writing your CV because you will be needing one soon.
What you are doing is unfairly using content with rights retained by others to support your argument that your content is of greater value than theirs and their content should therefore be treated as inferior. You're propping up the value of your content with that of others.
If user generated porn is so great, how come 99% of what I see is fat hairy people who don't know how to hold a fucking camera. You think all of those users there are to see the fat bitch with the hairy pussy or the clip of Paris right next to it smoking pole. All of whom click the same ads that provide the incentive for you to operate the site.Comment
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formalizing DMCA on a web site and practicing DMCA are two different things. The easiest for you will be just to send an email in the contact us page.. simple. Many times you can find a dedicated abuse address on those web sites. It all measures in the end on the actual practice and principle... not in the stupid formalities you guys tend to like so much! you send an abuse - its deleted! simple!
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sure but you're not allowed to charge for the rooms and you'll need to repay your loan by generating revenue by selling out other rooms at other casinos. the catch is, when you sell the rooms at the other casinos you have to keep 100% of their revenues to repay your loan. interest on 50 mill is a bitch.
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You know what mister buffet, I would have been considering your idea if you can help me find a way to duplicate my hotel room endlessly like you duplicated your "precious" high quality movies with no extra cost... If any one could have done his I am sure that hotel rooms where being given for practicaly free
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I love how some think 'web 2.0' means they can take other peoples creations and post them without permission. To argue and try to justify it as Free Speech is utterly amazing.
Playingwithmyself823, get a camera, jerk off (provided you are over 18 and keep proper documentation) and upload yourself all day long to the tube sites. No one will have an issue with that and you'll have all the content you want.
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[QUOTE=esnem;12962657]...What you are doing is unfairly using content with rights retained by others to support your argument that your content is of greater value than theirs and their content should therefore be treated as inferior. You're propping up the value of your content with that of others.QUOTE]
Dear Mister Buffet,
You keep telling over and over again web 2.0 sites are the resposible people for distributing your "precious" content. As a matter of fact they aren't. We have been discussing this point in this thread here over and over and over again. But it seems that you do not want to understand the simple facts - let me explain you this in short again - those web sites are just a tool - platform. They do not take a position what type of content they want people to upload (except on a very high level - like "adult content") . The don't tell people "this site permits to upload content produce only by mister Warren Buffet and his intelligent friends from GFY" Don't you get it? its the free choice of the community that decides what to upload, when to upload and how much of it to upload. Its the community spirit - its the free will of people - its their freedom to express themselves. its about those many many many individuals that submit this content - they are not the owner of those sites and they are just utilizing them for their own good. They do not capitalize on the content what so ever and ethology/adbrite.............. does not send them a check in the end of the month. Those sites get more them 15K submits each month - do you think that someone gives a shit about you or your precious content in those sites? Send them and abuse - get your content deleted and shot your month up. That's the best thing you can do!
by the way, so now we know that you are against freedom of speech, against DMCA laws, a racist and also ignorant!
(and mister Buffet the honest and ethical guy - please start improving your marketing tactics)
Sincerely yours,
Mister playingwihmyselfComment
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Dear Mister Buffet,
You keep telling over and over again web 2.0 sites are the resposible people for distributing your "precious" content. As a matter of fact they aren't. We have been discussing this point in this thread here over and over and over again. But it seems that you do not want to understand the simple facts - let me explain you this in short again - those web sites are just a tool - platform. They do not take a position what type of content they want people to upload (except on a very high level - like "adult content") . The don't tell people "this site permits to upload content produce only by mister Warren Buffet and his intelligent friends from GFY" Don't you get it? its the free choice of the community that decides what to upload, when to upload and how much of it to upload. Its the community spirit - its the free will of people - its their freedom to express themselves. its about those many many many individuals that submit this content - they are not the owner of those sites and they are just utilizing them for their own good. They do not capitalize on the content what so ever and ethology/adbrite.............. does not send them a check in the end of the month. Those sites get more them 15K submits each month - do you think that someone gives a shit about you or your precious content in those sites? Send them and abuse - get your content deleted and shot your month up. That's the best thing you can do!
by the way, so now we know that you are against freedom of speech, against DMCA laws, a racist and also ignorant!
(and mister Buffet the honest and ethical guy - please start improving your marketing tactics)
Sincerely yours,
Mister playingwihmyselfComment
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my point was that the other hotels, where you were taking 100% of their revenue for selling their rooms could never work. how would that hotel operate if you were taking the revenue from their rooms? that hotel would go out of business and you would have effectively choked out your source of revenue. about this time i would be asking where my next month's payment was on your loan and you would be forced to default, remember the rooms at your hotel are free. this is why your model is flawed.You know what mister buffet, I would have been considering your idea if you can help me find a way to duplicate my hotel room endlessly like you duplicated your "precious" high quality movies with no extra cost... If any one could have done his I am sure that hotel rooms where being given for practicaly free Comment
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Hey guys,
I am moving to some other threads and I need to start working instead of talking to people here. wanted to point some things before I leave this thread. I liked the conversation and enjoyed it with you. It has been great fun for me.
I have been approached by some people that have serious and heavy claims against some of the guys here and their marketing tactics they have been and still are utilizing and I will make sure that those guys are not going to stay in this industry - for the better of all of us.
I whish all of you guys all the best. Whish your stats will rocket this year - and that you all will wake up with a big smile every morning! I am still expecting to be invited to the summit .I think that I can honestly help focus on the right strategy. I am sure that there are good ideas for making it a better internet for all of us.
Have a nice week! I feel that I want to play with my self but my gf is still with me at home and I am waiting for her to get out to work! I know exactly the site I am going to visit today - ;)
A1R3K start preparing for some prison time pal. I hate to do this to you but the amount of shit you have been doing is really unbelievable! (I think that some of your friends here in this forum should know this as well)
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wow... this thread has taken off tremeandously. maltesers and jaffas while i read over more of these priceless pearls of wisdom.Comment
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this thread should not be on page 2
our buddy Lars needs to be able to see it
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we have been in communication- if there is no mutually agreeable plan of action by the close of business today then it will have been 6 days and we may have to hand this off. supposedly a plan is coming together and "waiting on approval from Mr. Conru and Lars" (per Mr. Bloom) as I type this. there has been ample time already to minimize the damage to XPays but another few hours will hopefully be worthwhile.InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5
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