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  • GatorB
    The Demon & 12clicks
    • Oct 2001
    • 18208

    #51
    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
    Republican congress under Clinton FACT! Dems were only in for 2 years.

    Shut up retard. Don't have shit to steal?

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    • aico
      Moo Moo Cow
      • Mar 2004
      • 14748

      #52
      Another interesting quote from the article I linked...

      "Federal obscenity prosecutions, which have been out of style since Attorney General Edwin Meese III in the Reagan administration made pornography a signature issue in the 1980s, do "encounter many legal issues, including First Amendment claims," the FBI headquarters memo noted."

      Those fucking Democrats.

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      • tony299
        lurker
        • Aug 2002
        • 57021

        #53
        Originally posted by aico
        Another interesting quote from the article I linked...

        "Federal obscenity prosecutions, which have been out of style since Attorney General Edwin Meese III in the Reagan administration made pornography a signature issue in the 1980s, do "encounter many legal issues, including First Amendment claims," the FBI headquarters memo noted."

        Those fucking Democrats.
        And what party was Reagan and Meese a part of ? Hmmmmm

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        • stickyfingerz
          Doin fine
          • Oct 2005
          • 24984

          #54
          Originally posted by aico
          Congress doesn't pick the Attorney General, the President does FACT!
          So the attorney general makes laws and pushes forward legislation now? The attorney general can only enforce existing laws...

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          • GreyWolf
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jun 2007
            • 2036

            #55
            Originally posted by tony404
            Unfortunately you can't blame the doj,this shit comes from on top and rolls down. Im sure they would rather be going after real crimes against children.
            Sure.. it's hard not to see the DOJ is an extension of the political arm and headed by a guy with a foul memory for a lawyer.

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            • stickyfingerz
              Doin fine
              • Oct 2005
              • 24984

              #56
              Originally posted by GatorB
              Shut up retard. Don't have shit to steal?
              Keep repeating it. Doesnt matter if its not true.

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              • Snake Doctor
                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                • Mar 2001
                • 13449

                #57
                To think that a bible thumping republican like Mike Huckabee wouldn't be any worse for us than Clinton or Obama is asinine.

                Nobody running for office will publicly support pornographers, there are absolutely no votes there, and it's a lose/lose situation for them.

                The democrats have not made us a priority however, and one can reasonably assume that very little to zero assets will be used to enforce obscenity laws or to check 2257 records without probable cause.
                During the Clinton administration the AG went after real CP and didn't mess with the legit porn businesses.

                Tony is right in saying that voting for a republican when you're a pornographer is like voting for the Nazi's if you're a Jew. (with the notable exception of Ron Paul)
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                • aico
                  Moo Moo Cow
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 14748

                  #58
                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                  So the attorney general makes laws and pushes forward legislation now? The attorney general can only enforce existing laws...
                  Go back to school and learn, I don't have time to explain it to you.

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                  • GreyWolf
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 2036

                    #59
                    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                    Keep repeating it. Doesnt matter if its not true.
                    That "issue" was brought to a board by your "partner". Both he and you have made statements, and there has since been no statement from either to support your claims - they are simply your claims. Nuff said.

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                    • tony299
                      lurker
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 57021

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Lenny2
                      To think that a bible thumping republican like Mike Huckabee wouldn't be any worse for us than Clinton or Obama is asinine.

                      Nobody running for office will publicly support pornographers, there are absolutely no votes there, and it's a lose/lose situation for them.

                      The democrats have not made us a priority however, and one can reasonably assume that very little to zero assets will be used to enforce obscenity laws or to check 2257 records without probable cause.
                      During the Clinton administration the AG went after real CP and didn't mess with the legit porn businesses.

                      Tony is right in saying that voting for a republican when you're a pornographer is like voting for the Nazi's if you're a Jew. (with the notable exception of Ron Paul)
                      Very well said and your right about ron paul.

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                      • Peaches
                        Old broad
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 13933

                        #61
                        Originally posted by mikesouth
                        THANK YOU!

                        It appalls me that the anti right seems to think the Demorats are our friends....If everyone who said they were sick of our two partys that seem to have little if any difference between them would get offa their lazy asses and vote Libertarian we'd see real change.
                        QTF

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                        • Snake Doctor
                          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                          • Mar 2001
                          • 13449

                          #62
                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                          So the attorney general makes laws and pushes forward legislation now? The attorney general can only enforce existing laws...
                          Yes and depending upon the administration's priorities certain laws get enforced and certain laws don't.

                          For instance the current administration has done next to nothing to enforce fair housing laws, something that massive resources were committed to during the Clinton administration.

                          Housing laws were the same under both administrations but heavily enforced during one and practically ignored during another.

                          The same can be said about laws related to our business.
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                          • Rochard
                            Jägermeister Test Pilot
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 75764

                            #63
                            They need to project the image that they are doing something to please the public. In the mean time, they don't jack shit to combat any of this.

                            Remember Traci Lords? She shot underage and she got her ID from where - The state of California?
                            Herschel Savage
                            Brooklyn, NY

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                            • GatorB
                              The Demon & 12clicks
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 18208

                              #64
                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                              Keep repeating it. Doesnt matter if its not true.
                              Then sue me bitch.

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                              • munki
                                Do Fun Shit.
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 13393

                                #65
                                I wonder if the Walsh camps cares at all about the pretty blatant misuse of the law and public bait and switching being carried out with the name attached...

                                I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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                                • tony299
                                  lurker
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 57021

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                  They need to project the image that they are doing something to please the public. In the mean time, they don't jack shit to combat any of this.

                                  Remember Traci Lords? She shot underage and she got her ID from where - The state of California?
                                  Traci Lords had a driver license and a passport that showed she was of age

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                                  • tony299
                                    lurker
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 57021

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by munki
                                    I wonder if the Walsh camps cares at all about the pretty blatant misuse of the law and public bait and switching being carried out with the name attached...
                                    If it was my son it was named after I would be pissed off.

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                                    • HeadPimp
                                      Bad Mo-Fo
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 2772

                                      #68
                                      Couldn't this all be about the fact that the Feds don't get a direct cut of the money our industry makes?

                                      Feels a lot like a shake down to me.

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                                      • FredIsMe
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 2406

                                        #69
                                        Thanks for the link. Interesting read.

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                                        • directfiesta
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 30207

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                          Shut up retard. Don't have shit to steal?
                                          Nope, but I heard Sticky is stocking up on cameras .......
                                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                          • directfiesta
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 30207

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                            Traci Lords had a driver license and a passport that showed she was of age

                                            ... and also TITS !!!!
                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                            • jennym
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 1622

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                              Of course it lost any weight because im right to vote for a republican and being in porn is stupid,
                                              Another mature, educated, informative post.

                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                              I reread my post I didnt call you stupid now if the shoe fits not my fault. Its like being a jew and voting for the nazi's.The dems arent our friends but we are not a top priority.
                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                              ...would rather play blind then realize how truly stupid they are for supporting these people. They would rather live in their fantasy world
                                              I'm sorry...it looks like you called me stupid to me. Maybe you not only have trouble typing a coherent post, but have trouble comprehending your own posts as well.

                                              Originally posted by Lenny2
                                              To think that a bible thumping republican like Mike Huckabee wouldn't be any worse for us than Clinton or Obama is asinine.
                                              I haven't seen anyone say that. *I* have said that THIS PARTICULAR issue isn't left/right since JOHN KERRY and other Dems are the CO-SPONSORS of this bill. You know what that means right??

                                              Originally posted by Lenny2
                                              Tony is right in saying that voting for a republican when you're a pornographer is like voting for the Nazi's if you're a Jew. (with the notable exception of Ron Paul)
                                              So, it is ok to say the Republican YOU like is ok, but ALL other Republicans are bad??

                                              I think Dems are the ignorant ones. Bush has had the lowest rating of any president I have ever seen and Dems can't even come up with a person to beat him. And look what they brought on board this year. A woman, and a black Obama. While I personally wouldn't have a problem voting for either one of them on that level, Dems must realize this country isn't quite ready for either. THAT means that the stupidity of the Dems is likely to cost them yet another presidential election. In a time when a LOT of "us Republicans" would be more than willing to vote for a Dem president to prove that we also think Bush has gone to far right. I don't think the Dems WANT to win. Wanna know why?? Because they are too much of pussies to take on the criticism that Bush the monkey has at least had the balls to stand up to.

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                                              • tony299
                                                lurker
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 57021

                                                #73
                                                I love when people say they cant understand my posts that they are unreadable but respond to them anyway. If Im unreadable then dont read me.
                                                Why would I call you a name when I dont know you?
                                                If you look at history and even today republicans have been very bad for our industry and Dems havent. Why is that so hard to understand?

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                                                • GreyWolf
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Jun 2007
                                                  • 2036

                                                  #74
                                                  Ah.. the love is awesome

                                                  Discuss anything but the topic and step into the gutter over stupid politics and ooze hate. This is getting like a national characteristic.

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                                                  • Tom_PM
                                                    Porn Meister
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 16443

                                                    #75
                                                    I hope some people caught the significance of the fact that Mark Klass see's no connection between the Adult Industry and CP or how keeping a database of adult film stars relates in any way to protecting children.

                                                    You know who he is, he works directly with Adam Walsh and now Mark Lunsford in bringing CP sicko's to justice? Yeah that guy.

                                                    RE: Left vs Right. We all know both parties have zealots, but one party has no choice but to make a bit more public effort since they run on "values" and cater to religion for votes.
                                                    43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                    • MrJackMeHoff
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 4569

                                                      #76
                                                      vote Ron Paul, its your only hope. He says he will remove and stop all policing of internet business.

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                                                      • Snake Doctor
                                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                        • 13449

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                        RE: Left vs Right. We all know both parties have zealots, but one party has no choice but to make a bit more public effort since they run on "values" and cater to religion for votes.
                                                        Bingo!

                                                        In order to win national and statewide elections the right needs to get a "wedge" issue out there to turn out the evangelical vote.

                                                        Last time it was gay marriage. "The homos are gonna ruin the sanctity of marriage if you don't get out and vote for this amendment"

                                                        The next thing could be "The pornographers are going after your children and I'm gonna stop them"

                                                        Church people aren't gonna vote democrat anyways, so while they don't "support us" they aren't gonna use us as a publicity stunt either.
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                                                        • montel
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 2606

                                                          #78
                                                          1. Why are these laws always put forward by politicians who are 70+ and have 0 understanding of the techonology?
                                                          2. The GOP is reliant on the Christian right. Why would someone in the porn industry vote for for the GOP which is connected to religious conservatives who hate porn (publicly of course, in private they are jacking off to gay porn and smoking meth with rent boys - see Ted Haggard). This is just fucking crazy.
                                                          3. I am from Australia and I can see that the USA is a great country being destroyed by Cheney/Bush. This is just another utterly retarded piece of legislation that is gonna be introduced under their watch. Invade Iraq != Ending Terror. Stricter Record Keeping in Mainstream Porn != less child abuse. I thought 2257 was gonna solve entire child abuse problem in the USA?!?!?!

                                                          U guys need to take ur fucking country back, it is being destroyed by Christian tards.
                                                          Barefootsies

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                                                          • montel
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 2606

                                                            #79
                                                            duplicate... see above
                                                            Last edited by montel; 08-20-2007, 05:31 PM.
                                                            Barefootsies

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                                                            • montel
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 2606

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                              Bingo!

                                                              In order to win national and statewide elections the right needs to get a "wedge" issue out there to turn out the evangelical vote.

                                                              Last time it was gay marriage. "The homos are gonna ruin the sanctity of marriage if you don't get out and vote for this amendment"

                                                              The next thing could be "The pornographers are going after your children and I'm gonna stop them"

                                                              Church people aren't gonna vote democrat anyways, so while they don't "support us" they aren't gonna use us as a publicity stunt either.
                                                              it pisses me off that these people are such fucking hypocrits - the hardcore religious conservative people often turn out to be the real sickos who are into the most fucked up shit...

                                                              you wanna stamp out child abuse? you could try by shutting down the Catholic Church. I would love to see the stats on the number of pornographers in the USA who have been involved in child abuse compared to the number of Catholic priests.

                                                              it seems that in all the debate in the USA the FACTS and ANALYSIS of issues is irrelevant now. does ANYONE seriously think that this is gonna stop even one kid from being abused?
                                                              Barefootsies

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                                                              • RawAlex
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                • 9465

                                                                #81
                                                                The story is such shit: Someone is trying to make it sound like there were no records before. 2257 has been around since 199x, and model releases and proof of ID has been around since. it isn't suddenly like someone is going to run the first ID check on Ron or Jenna.

                                                                When you see how far the media fucks up something like this you gotta wonder how fucked up the rest of the news is.

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                                                                • Barefootsies
                                                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                  • 42635

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                  See below
                                                                  The world is not that black and white that things come down to an "always" one or the other....

                                                                  See below.

                                                                  Should You Email Your Members?

                                                                  Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                                  Enough Said.

                                                                  "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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